I'm a white 30 year old single male. There are only two stations in the NYC area that I can tolerate listening to: WSOU and 1010 WINS
Does nobody see a problem with this??
Does nobody see a problem with this??
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I'm a Latino male and only can deal with ONE station....92.3 Now.
Blame corporate....
Blame corporate....
I'm a White female, yet I tend to prefer the Urban, Urban AC and Rhythmic stations... it'd really be a heartbreaker for a heritage Urban AC like WBLS to go away...
@luperm, i don't think anyone is against a profit. It's bad programming that people are against...
luperm said:Tony Santiago said:I'm a Latino male and only can deal with ONE station....92.3 Now.
Blame corporate....
Yes. How dare these evil corporations try to make a profit.
LOL trying isn't doing. :-*
danikayser84 said:
TOTAL agreement with you on that!
it sucks being white and male and not having a rock station at all to serve you and struggling throughout town to find one. DHA is no help and neither is the Peak and the Q is only good when it's playing Nirvana or Pearl Jam (Neither of those are classic rock anyway).
XCountry285 said:
89.5 WSOU 8)
XCountry285 said:
Where in the Bill of Rights are white males guaranteed rock-oriented musical gratification?
Since you won't find that guarantee, it must simply be that there are too few like you to justify someone investing in a radio station to do what you want.
Chill, hoist a cold one and download some tunes you like. Enjoy.
I'm a 27, and I haven't listened to FM radio in years. I listen to AM radio though, but only a couple of shows.
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I have to agree with David Eduardo. I pretty much gave up on listening to local radio because in my area, nothing fits my tastes. It is either geared toward a young (read money spending) crowd, or talk/news. The stations that are here are playing what pays their bills. Being a successful business owner of many years, I understand that you do what it profitable whether or not everyone likes it. Its your bottom line that keeps a business running. Plus, I doubt these stations would survive if no one listened.
Here is what I did: I bought a portable 1 terrabyte hard drive. I burned every CD I and my wife own. I then ran off all of my vinyl and converted it to MP3. Then I filled in a few gaps by buying some music online. Lastly, I visit my local library and borrow a CD or two every so often to burn and add to my collection. I plan on also converting all of my tapes as well. So far, I now have around 4,000 songs and counting. That rivals any station out there, excepting the online streamers. I can run this through my laptop on shuffle and not hear the same songs for weeks.
Here is what I did: I bought a portable 1 terrabyte hard drive. I burned every CD I and my wife own. I then ran off all of my vinyl and converted it to MP3. Then I filled in a few gaps by buying some music online. Lastly, I visit my local library and borrow a CD or two every so often to burn and add to my collection. I plan on also converting all of my tapes as well. So far, I now have around 4,000 songs and counting. That rivals any station out there, excepting the online streamers. I can run this through my laptop on shuffle and not hear the same songs for weeks.
nocomradio said:
Even better, just download the TuneIn Radio app for your iPhone, Android, or Blackberry, and listen to over 50,000 radio stations worldwide! And for those stations that were pulled by Clear Channel & CBS Radio, yea, you lose them, but you do gain with Internet only stations that are listed
Oh, and there is also TuneIn Pro, and for only 99 cents, you can record your preset and hear it later if you don't want to kill your data plan. Comes in handy for me when I drive the bus on weekdays that has a cd/MP3 player built in.
A 64-year old white city boy here. Born and weaned on Standards and C&W, raised in the peer gutter on Beach Boys and Chiffons, didn't inhale (that much) and much enjoyed the 1971-1977 brand of AoR, and then ......
.... not much.
The search for any good 'format' into which to be immersed full time ended for me at age 32. Even the wussier A/C music, usually sitthroughable in an emergency, seemed gutless and evaporating. That was half my life ago!
So no form of radio has 'done it' for me since the mid-Eighties. Maybe it's odd, maybe not, that I chronologically was spoiled by living through the three main forms -- ONLY forms -- of mass appeal American pop music. Both genders supported MoR, rock and roll, and early AoR.
I feel for you, Jake Hirsch. You actually weren't even born yet, and couldn't realize that the music industry and radio already were a few years strictly into the 'super-serving' of niched audiences. That approach has not changed nor will again. Moreover, the huge earth landing of the computerized methods of music and entertainment delivery -- the copouts people brazenly misrepresent now as an excuse for today's youthful apathy -- did not exist in 1982.
Nocom and Gleason have it right. Thousands of songs for your personal use. Go for it.
And you might be surprised at the hooks and appeal and endurance of a LOT of music before your time.
.... not much.
The search for any good 'format' into which to be immersed full time ended for me at age 32. Even the wussier A/C music, usually sitthroughable in an emergency, seemed gutless and evaporating. That was half my life ago!
So no form of radio has 'done it' for me since the mid-Eighties. Maybe it's odd, maybe not, that I chronologically was spoiled by living through the three main forms -- ONLY forms -- of mass appeal American pop music. Both genders supported MoR, rock and roll, and early AoR.
I feel for you, Jake Hirsch. You actually weren't even born yet, and couldn't realize that the music industry and radio already were a few years strictly into the 'super-serving' of niched audiences. That approach has not changed nor will again. Moreover, the huge earth landing of the computerized methods of music and entertainment delivery -- the copouts people brazenly misrepresent now as an excuse for today's youthful apathy -- did not exist in 1982.
Nocom and Gleason have it right. Thousands of songs for your personal use. Go for it.
And you might be surprised at the hooks and appeal and endurance of a LOT of music before your time.
XCountry285 said:
I agree. Not sure what happened to "The Peak", they reek of death these days. I think probably due to playing too much beat to death classic rock instead of more new music, 90s and 00s.
Seems when WRXP went off the Peak moved further into beat to death Q104.3 territory. I remember switching to them the moment RXP died and instead of trying to gain RXP listeners they were hitting 70s pop hard that night. What a slap in the face to RXP listeners and those that were fans of both stations. You think they would have tried to grab the RXP listeners, very odd.
I have nothing against Dan Akroid and good for him he has his blues hobby. But why does "The Peak" have to play that garbage. Now The Peak is starting to sound like that lame Dan Akroid program now that they use blues in their promos. It is just not the same hip station it once was.
When Wifi is available Iheartradio "Radio 104.5" alternative in Philly is good and if I want something a little harder rock WJRR in Orlando. I have also had to move on to building a library on the Ipod and find new music by using the rock and alternative charts. But both of these alternatives have their own time constraints and problems.
F "Q-104.3, DHA, WEFX, WRKI and The Peak" for giving us total crap rock radio.
DavidEduardo said:
APPLAUSE!
Heck, I'm not "guaranteed" a dance station because I am a Puerto Rican male
. I would like for such a station to happen (yeah, that's the big understatement of the century, lol) but only because there are like-minded fans such as myself of all background that love the music and I feel that it can be a revenue maker for all involved.Steve Green NEPA said:
This is what an overabundance of personal music devices has brought us to: A lack of tolerance for anything we don't like. And this is what will ultimately push a lot of music off of OTA radio. I've watched how narrow rock fans have become, and it really pains me. Rock music used to be a very broad format. Not any more. It's been niched to death. Couple that with total confusion in the music industry, and you get today's rock music, and an unwillingness on the part of radio to support it.
On the other hand, this exact thing has opened a door in some places for country music. Country has always had a rock side to it, starting with Elvis and Johnny Cash, and now is finding new audiences with Jason Aldean, Zac Brown, Eli Young, and Eric Church. Sure a lot of it is regional. But the Allman Brothers had a breakthrough album recorded in New York City. So you'd think there would be an audience for southern rock in NY.
Look...here's the reality for New York radio: There's no money in the fringes. Everyone wants the big pay day. The big pay day is playing familiar favorites. If audiences were just a bit more tolerant of other musical styles and artists, as they were before the 90s, you'd find more to like on the radio. But we live in a "have it your way" world, and radio doesn't work that way.
DavidEduardo said:
Right---and I have done the downloading thing, the XM thing, the mp3 player thing, and most often the streaming audio thing. And as radio keeps on not providing programming to so many segments of the market(oldies, smooth jazz, dance, country in markets such as NY, alternative, soft AC,etc), more and more people will gravitate from, or never even consider in the first place, broadcast radio.
JimH said:
As I was taught many years ago, radio can't be all things to all people. These commercial companies have various platforms or canvases on which to paint, and they choose the formats that are more likely to reach the most people. That's what their advertisers demand, and the formats available now provide those mass audiences. So the radio companies are OK if 5-8% of the population choose other devices for their music.
What is far more interesting to me is how many non-commercial stations have also ignored those same formats. They have no real excuse, because their business model isn't dependent on advertising.
TheBigA said:
Emmis needed the cash otherwise I think WRXP would still be around since they were doing fine this year and late 2010.
I think allot of the negativity came from people as you describe having narrow tastes in rock combined with RXP format being poorly executed early on and wishing for an ESPN format on FM.
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