RETRO: San Francisco/Sacramento/Chico/Reno, Thursday, July 18, 1963

[Ultimajock]

Source: TV Guide, Northern California edition

Channels listed:
2 KTVU (Independent) Jack London Square, Oakland 7
3 KCRA-TV (NBC) 310 Tenth Street, Sacramento 14
4 KRON-TV (NBC) 929 Mission Street, San Francisco 19
4R KCRL (NBC/ABC) 1790 Vassar Street, Reno, Nevada
5 KPIX (CBS) 2655 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco 9
6 KVIE (Educational) P.O. Box 6, Sacramento 1
7 KGO-TV (ABC) 277 Golden Gate Avenue, San Francisco 2
7R KVIP-TV (ABC/NBC) 2770 Pioneer Drive, Redding
8 KSBW-TV (CBS/NBC) 238 John Street, Salinas
8R KOLO-TV (ABC/CBS) 770 East Fifth Street, Reno, Nevada
9 KQED (Educational) 525 Fourth Street, San Francisco 7
10 KXTV (CBS) 601 Seventh Avenue, Sacramento 18
11 KNTV (ABC) 645 Park Avenue, San Jose 10
12 KHSL-TV (CBS) 180 East Fourth Street, Chico
13 KOVR-TV (ABC) 1216 Arden Way, Sacramento

MORNING
5:50
4 Daily Word (religion)

5:55
4 Farm News

6:00
4 Operation Alphabet

6:20
13 Ranch & Garden

6:25
5/13 News

6:30
4 Family Living (education)
5/13 Columbia Lectures (later to be retitled “Sunrise Semester”)

6:50
4 Spunky & Tadpole

6:55
3 Farm News
7 Dick Tracy

7:00
3/4/4R/8 Today (Jerry Lewis is Hugh Downs’ guest)
5 Wake Up (children)
7 Al Collins (local variety show hosted by the disc jockey and former host of NBC's Tonight: America After Dark)
10 Diver Dan (cartoons)
13 Cartoon Time

8:00
5/8R/10/12 Captain Kangaroo (The Captain shows how rubber is turned into finished products)

8:30
7 Jack La Lanne

9:00
3 Popeye
4/4R/8 Say When
5/8R Calendar (Harry Reasoner)
7 Movie (You Can’t Take It With You, Part 1, concluded tomorrow; 1938 comedy starring Lionel Barrymore and James Stewart)
10 Diver Dan
13 Movie (The Affairs of Cellini, 1934 biography of Renaissance goldsmith, author and lover Benvenuto Cellini, starring Frederic March, Constance Bennett and Fay Wray)

9:25
3/4/4R/8 NBC News (Edwin Newman)

9:30
3/4/4R/8 Play Your Hunch [COLOR]
5/8R/10/12 I Love Lucy
7R Film Feature

10:00
3 The Best of Groucho
4/4R/7R/8 The Price is Right [COLOR]
5/8R/10/12 The Real McCoys
11 Agriculture Film

10:20
2 Religion

10:30
2 News and Interviews
3/4/4R/7R/8 Concentration
5/8R/10/12 Pete and Gladys
7 Les Crane (local talk show that was adapted the following year by ABC as its first late-night series)
11 Jack La Lanne

10:55
13 News

11:00
2 Romper Room (Miss Nancy)
3/4/4R Your First Impression [COLOR]
5/8/8R/10/12 Love of Life
7 Television Bingo
11 Slapstick Comedies
13 Appointment Thirteen (local variety series)

11:25
5/8/8R/10/12 CBS News

11:30
3/4/4R/8 Truth or Consequences
5/8R/10/12 Search for Tomorrow
7/7R/11/13 Seven Keys

11:55
3/4/4R/8 NBC News

AFTERNOON
12:00
2 TV Hour of Stars (“The Men in Her Life,” starring Phyllis Kirk)
3/4/4R/8 People Will Talk [COLOR]
5/10 News
7/7R/11/13 Tennessee Ernie Ford
8R High Noon (noon hour kiddie show with Cactus Tom, no connection to the classic movie of the same name)
12 Leave It To The Girls (Hurd Hatfield is interviewed)

12:15
10 Woman’s World

12:25
3/4/4R/8 NBC News (Floyd Kalber)

12:30
3/4R/8 The Doctors
4/10 San Francisco Fashion Show (local special featuring autumn ’63 fashions from San Francisco designers; Peter Lind Hayes and Mary Healy comment. Pre-empts “The Doctors” on KRON and “As The World Turns” on KXTV.)
5/8R/12 As The World Turns
7/7R/11/13 Father Knows Best

12:55
2 Believe It or Not

1:00
2 Paul Coates (Los Angeles-based interview series)
3/4/4R/8 Loretta Young
5/8R/10/12 Password (Robert Reed and Kitty Carlisle are the celebrity players)
7/7R/11/13 General Hospital

1:30
2 I Want to Know
3/4/4R/7R You Don’t Say! [COLOR] (Mona Freeman and Jack Ging are the celebrity players)
5/8/8R/10/12 Art Linkletter’s House Party (Magician Jay Ose is the guest)
7 Girl Talk (Virginia Graham hosts actresses Marilyn Cantor and Carol Bruce and writer Helen Hanff)
11 George Burns and Gracie Allen
13 Leave It To The Girls (same show as was run on KHSL at Noon)

2:00
2 Movie (The Heart of a Nation, 1940 French drama starring Charles Boyer)
3 Movie (The Star, 1953 drama starring Bette Davis and Natalie Wood)
4/4R Match Game (Joan Caufield and Jack E. Leonard are the celebrity players)
5/8/8R/10/12 To Tell The Truth (Joan Fontaine, Barry Nelson, Phyllis Newman and Orson Bean are this week’s panel)
7/7R/11/13 Day in Court

2:25
4/4R NBC News (Sander Vanocur)
5/8/8R/10/12 CBS News (Douglas Edwards)
7/7R/11/13 ABC News (Alex Dreier)

2:30
4/4R Make Room for Daddy
5/8/8R/10 The Edge of Night
7/7R/11/13 Jane Wyman
12 Sea Hunt

3:00
4 The Outlaws
4R Movie (Sound Off, 1952 musical starring Mickey Rooney)
5/8/10 The Secret Storm
7/7R/11/13 Queen For a Day
8R Movie (Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, 1948 comedy starring Cary Grant, Myrna Loy, Melvyn Douglas and Reginald Denny)
12 Movie (Saturday’s Children, 1940 domestic drama starring John Garfield, Anne Shirley, Claude Rains and Roscoe Karns)

3:25
2 News

3:30
2 Captain Satellite
5/10 The Millionaire
7/7R/11/13 Who Do You Trust?
8 Movie (The Sunny Side of The Street, 1951 musical starring Frankie Laine, Billy Daniels and Terry Moore)

4:00
3 Movie (The Yellow Tomahawk, 1954 Western starring Rory Calhoun and Rita Moreno)
4 December Bride
5 Marshal J [COLOR]
7/7R/11/13 American Bandstand
9 Language (Henry Lee Jr. discusses regional dialects in Standard American English)
10 Movie (Chicago Deadline, 1949 mystery starring Alan Ladd and Donna Reed)

4:30
2/11 The Three Stooges
4 Popeye (Mayor Art)
5 Movie (A Bedtime Story, 1933 musical starring Maurice Chevalier)
7/7R/13 Discovery ’63 (Frank Buxton shows films of the Cheyenne, Sioux and Blackfoot reservations)

4:50
11 Hocus Pocus (children)

4:55
7/7R American Newsstand
13 Cap’n Delta (children)

5:00
4R A Child’s World
7 Movie (The Wild Dakotas, 1956 Western starring Bill Williams, Coleen Gray and Jim Davis)
7R The Li’l Rascals
8 Cartoon Circus
8R Ranger Will
12 The Three Stooges

5:15
12 Don’s Cartoon Club

5:30
2/7R Mickey Mouse Club
3 Yogi Bear
4 Whirlybirds
4R Cartoon Time
8 News
8R You Are There (“The Capture of John Wilkes Booth”)
10 Maverick
11 Stew Park’s Record Hop

EVENING
6:00
2 Amos ‘n’ Andy (Kingfish sells Sapphire’s fur coat to Andy without her knowledge)
3/4/4R/8 The Huntley-Brinkley Report
5 News
6 What’s New?
7R ABC News (Ron Cochran)
8R CBS News (Charles Collingwood)
9 Portrait in Music (Bela Bartok’s Concerto for Orchestra)
12 Ripcord
13 Mickey Mouse Club

6:15
3/4/4R/7R/11 News
8 CBS News (Charles Collingwood)

6:25
13 News

6:30
2 Quick Draw McGraw
3/10/12 News
4 Colonel Flack
4R/11 ABC News (Ron Cochran)
6 Stock Market Reports
7 Trackdown
7R Expedition!
8 Huckleberry Hound
9 What’s New?
13 Sugarfoot

6:35
6 Musical Portraits

6:45
3/4R/8 News
5/10/12 CBS News (Charles Collingwood)

6:55
7 Sports (Bud Foster)

7:00
2 You Asked For It (among the segments introduced by Jack Smith is a clip of the 1926 adventure film Old Ironsides so that an extra in the clip can see himself on screen again)
3 Movie Of The Week (Khyber Patrol, 1945 adventure starring Richard Egan, Dawn Addams and Raymond Burr)
4 Hennessey
4R The Jetsons
5 Across The Seven Seas [COLOR]
6 Heritage
7 News (Roger Grimsby)
7R/11 Guestward Ho!
8 Hazel [COLOR]
8R Stoney Burke (curiously, ABC is allowing both Reno stations to air delayed programs from its primetime schedule against each other)
9 Music For Young People
10 Perry Mason (“The Case of The Provocative Protégé,” run locally on KXTV one hour before the CBS West Coast network feed)
12 M Squad

7:15
7 ABC News (Ron Cochran)

7:30
2/8 The Best of Groucho
4/4R Wide Country
5/12 Fair Exchange
6/9 Weekend Vacations
7/7R/11/13 Ozzie and Harriet

8:00
2 Expedition!
5/8/8R/12 Perry Mason (the CBS West Coast feed of the same episode run by KXTV at 7:00)
6 Japanese Time (“The Wife of Kazutoyo Yamanouchi”)
7/7R/11/13 The Donna Reed Show
9 Touch of Fame
10 Men Into Space

8:30
2 High Road
3/4/4R Dr. Kildare (“The Soul Killer,” with guests Suzanne Pleshette and Bill Bixby)
6 Self Encounter
7/7R/11/13 Leave It To Beaver (“The Party Spoiler”)
9 Time to Dance (instruction)
10 The Lloyd Bridges Show (“Permission Granted,” delayed from Tuesday at 8:00)

9:00
2 Bold Journey
5/8/8R/10/12 The Twilight Zone (the Rod Serling story “The Parallel,” starring Steve Forrest)
6 World Crossroads (relations between Europe and the Arab World since Napoleon’s expedition to Egypt in 1798)
7/7R/11/13 My Three Sons
9 Profile: Bay Area (a live discussion on the benefits and dangers of pesticides)

9:30
2 Mantovani
3/4/4R Hazel [COLOR]
6 Touresten Deutsch
7/7R/11/13 McHale’s Navy

10:00
2 News
3/4/4R/8 Summer Special (“The World of Bob Hope”)
5/10/12 The Nurses
6 Religions of Man
7/7R/11/13 Premiere (“Mr. Lucifer,” starring Fred Astaire, Elizabeth Montgomery and Joyce Bulifant)
8R Desilu Playhouse (“The Crazy Hunter,” starring Franchot Tone)
9 Plays in Rehearsal (a discussion of Ibsen’s The Masterbuilder)

10:20
2 Feature Report

10:30
2 Paul Coates
6 Four Score (music)

11:00
2 Movie (A Man Alone, 1955 Western starring Ray Milland, Raymond Burr, Ward Bond and Lee Van Cleef)
3/4/4R/5/7/7R/8/8R/10/11/12/13 News

11:10
5/7R Sports
12 Movie (Apartment For Peggy, 1948 comedy starring William Holden, Jeanne Crain, Gene Lockhart and Edmund Gwenn)

11:15
4/4R/7R/8 The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson [COLOR]
5 The Steve Allen Westinghouse Show (guests are Allan Sherman, Frankie Avalon and Jackie Vernon)
7 Movie (Gaslight, 1944 suspense thriller starring Charles Boyer, Ingrid Bergman, Joseph Cotten and Angela Lansbury)
8R Movie (Viva Villa!, 1934 biography of Mexican revolutionary leader Pancho Villa, starring Wallace Beery, Leo Carillo and Fay Wray)

11:20
10 Movie (Allah Be Praised, 1944 drama starring Ronald Colman, Marlene Dietrich and Edward Arnold)

11:25
13 Riverboat

11:30
3 The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson [COLOR] (joined in progress)
11 Movie (The Hasty Heart, 1950 war drama starring Ronald Reagan and Patricia Neal)

12:20
13 News

12:45
5 Movie (The Devil Thumbs a Ride, 1947 film noir starring Lawrence Tierney and Nan Leslie)

1:00
3/4/7/7R/10 News

1:05
7 Mahalia Jackson Sings

2:00
5 News

 

[anabate123]

Hey ultimajock, do you have any TV listings from local TV Guides from the mid 1960s? (1964-1968) If so, just let me know via PM or reply, and I'd be grateful to see some posted!

Here are the channels!

2 - KTVU Oakland (Ind.)
3 - KCRA Sacramento (NBC)
4 - KRON San Francisco (NBC)
5 - KPIX San Francisco (CBS)
6 - KVIE Sacramento (NET)
7R - KRCR Redding (NBC)
7S - KGO San Francisco (ABC)
8 - KSBW Salinas (NBC)
9R - KIXE Redding (PBS)
9S - KQED San Francisco (NET)
10 - KXTV Sacramento (CBS)
11 - KNTV San Jose (ABC)
12 - KHSL Chico (CBS)
13 - KOVR Sacramento (CBS)
19 - KLOS Sacramento (Ind.)
20 - KEMO San Francisco (Ind.)
36 - KGSC San Jose (Ind.)
44 - KBHK San Francisco (Ind.)

 

[oldiesfan6479]

5 KPIX (CBS) 2655 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco 9
10 KXTV (CBS) 601 Seventh Avenue, Sacramento 18

7:00
10 Perry Mason (“The Case of The Provocative Protégé,” run locally on KXTV one hour before the CBS West Coast network feed)

8:00
5/8/8R/12 Perry Mason (the CBS West Coast feed of the same episode run by KXTV at 7:00)

Did the TV Guide issue actually mention that the same episode aired on KXTV 10 at 7:00 as run on KPIX 5, et al, an hour later? How'd they do that? Wonder if they were shipped a 16mm film print in advance? Or was it on a 7 DB in Sac-town?

 

[Ultimajock]

Did the TV Guide issue actually mention that the same episode aired on KXTV 10 at 7:00 as run on KPIX 5, et al, an hour later? How'd they do that? Wonder if they were shipped a 16mm film print in advance? Or was it on a 7 DB in Sac-town?

...indeed, it did. I'm assuming KXTV got a 16mm print...

 

[Ultimajock]

...also find it interesting that, although KVIP-TV/7 Redding was officially a primary NBC affiliate, on this date they only took four programs from The Peacock -- three daytime game shows (The Price is Right, Concentration and You Don't Say!) and Johnny Carson -- while everything else networked was from ABC, including Ron Cochran's evening newscast rather than The Huntley-Brinkley Report. They waited until 9:30 AM to sign on the air, so even Today was bypassed. This particular week, only the NBC Sunday primetime schedule was run in network pattern. I wonder if, by any chance, KVIP may have cleared NBC on first-run primetime and switched to ABC reruns later in the season?...

 

[Gregg.]

A few comments on the listings.

--It must have been hard to be an Independent station in those days. You either had to generate your own programming, such as an hour of Romper Room at 11am, run movies or try to find some off-network syndicated reruns. KTVU 2 doesn't sign on till 10:30am. I grew up in the NYC area, and we had three Independents, always trying to find old shows. So we got Best of Groucho, Life of Riley, Burns & Allen, My Little Margie, Topper, etc. long after other markets had forgotten them. I see KTVU runs Best of Groucho at 7:30pm, and Bold Journey at 9pm.

--I didn't know Mantovani had a half hour music show. This is the first time I've seen it, at 9:30pm on KTVU. I know Liberace had also had a half hour music show for a while. And there were plenty of musical 15 min. shows featuring Dinah Shore, Perry Como and others.

--Another musical show was hosted by Mahalia Jackson, a rare program hosted by an African-American performer. KGO-TV runs it at 1am before sign off. It was only five minutes. Les Paul & Mary Ford also had a five minute musical show in those days.

--Johnny Carson was still beginning at 11:15pm in those days, requiring stations that want to run the entire show to limit their late news to 15 minutes. Everyone NBC affiliate here does that, except for KCRA Sacramento, which skips those first 15 minutes of Tonight and joins the show at 11:30pm.

 

[Ultimajock]

A few comments on the listings.

--It must have been hard to be an Independent station in those days. You either had to generate your own programming, such as an hour of Romper Room at 11am, run movies or try to find some off-network syndicated reruns. KTVU 2 doesn't sign on till 10:30am. I grew up in the NYC area, and we had three Independents, always trying to find old shows. So we got Best of Groucho, Life of Riley, Burns & Allen, My Little Margie, Topper, etc. long after other markets had forgotten them. I see KTVU runs Best of Groucho at 7:30pm, and Bold Journey at 9pm.

...in addition, the San Francisco Bay Area had two ABC affiliates at the time, owned&operated KGO-TV/7 and Gilliland-owned KNTV/11 San Jose. KNTV had originally been an indie when it cranked up operations in 1955, competing with KTVU/2 Oakland when they started up in '58, but found the going too rough. In 1960, KNTV wrangled a deal with ABC to become a primary affiliate for the Monterrey-Salinas market, as its transmitter was atop Loma Prieta Peak, 100 miles south of San Francisco. The local brass at KGO-TV didn't like it, but KNTV stayed an ABC affiliate for the next four decades. Most of the schedule load displaced by the ABC programming wound up on KTVU...

--I didn't know Mantovani had a half hour music show. This is the first time I've seen it, at 9:30pm on KTVU. I know Liberace had also had a half hour music show for a while. And there were plenty of musical 15 min. shows featuring Dinah Shore, Perry Como and others.

...Mantovani was one of the series made for the NTA Film Network of the late '50s, the film-based network that sought to pick up whatever slack was left by the demise of both DuMont and the Paramount Television Network in 1955-56. Paramount, based through KTLA/5 Los Angeles (which Paramount Pictures owned at the time), had distributed the filmed music programs of Western Swing superstar Spade Cooley, jazz bandleader Ina Ray Hutton and the self-proclaimed "King of Exotica" Korla Pandit, and KTLA carried the Guild Films-syndicated shows of Liberace and Florian ZaBach locally in Los Angeles. NTA (which owned WNTA/13 Newark to get its programs into New York City) made 39 episodes of Mantovani available in early 1959; IIRC it was first run in Los Angeles on KTTV/11 and then rerun over KCOP/13 in 1961. Most of the 15-minute musical shows were network filler for the same half-hour their evening newscasts appeared in prior to 1963...

--Johnny Carson was still beginning at 11:15pm in those days, requiring stations that want to run the entire show to limit their late news to 15 minutes. Everyone NBC affiliate here does that, except for KCRA Sacramento, which skips those first 15 minutes of Tonight and joins the show at 11:30pm.

...that led to a big dispute between NBC and Carson in 1966, Carson wanted his monologue to lead off the show, but with local newscasts extending from 15 minutes to 20 and 30, some stations joined NBC either during or after the monologue. In early 1965, Carson flatly refused to do the first 15 minutes anymore, leaving that segment for Ed McMahon and Skitch Henderson's band to fill, and at contract renewal time staged a walkout until those 15 minutes were done away with altogether...

 

[installLSC]

While we're on the subject of 16mm, how did they decide which stations got them ahead of time and which had to wait a week or two to get them? I've read some Mountain Zone listings where stations in the same market got their tapes weeks apart. And how good was the quality of these tapes?

 

[Ultimajock]

While we're on the subject of 16mm, how did they decide which stations got them ahead of time and which had to wait a week or two to get them? I've read some Mountain Zone listings where stations in the same market got their tapes weeks apart. And how good was the quality of these tapes?

...well, first off, in '63 these would be films and not videotapes. Tape stock was prohibitively expensive and cumbersome, while 16mm film prints could be (and frequently were) reedited for bicycling in off-network syndication or archiving. As far as who got what when, it was often on a case-by-case basis. One example is on the night of November 16, 1963, when one of the very smallest CBS affiliates, WSAU-TV/7 in Wausau, Wisconsin (then a one-station market), ran most of CBS' prime time schedule off of 16mm prints out of network pattern. CBS' Central Time schedule that night was:
6:30 Jackie Gleason and His American Scene Magazine
7:30 The Defenders
8:30 The New Phil Silvers Show
9:00 Gunsmoke
WSAU-TV's schedule that night was:
6:30 Jackie Gleason and His American Scene Magazine (from the network feed)
7:30 The New Phil Silvers Show (from 16mm, same episode one hour before the network feed)
8:00 Dairyland Jubilee (a long-running local variety show from WKOW-TV/27 Madison mainly focusing on polkas)
8:30 The Defenders (from 16mm, same episode one hour after the network feed)
9:30 Gunsmoke (from 16mm, same episode halfway through the network feed)
In addition, WSAU-TV didn't bother with a late Saturday newscast after Gunsmoke, going instead to a 16mm print of an episode of ABC's Sunday night series Arrest and Trial that had run on that network two weekends earlier. On the following weekend in a notably larger market, NBC's primary affiliate in Charlotte, North Carolina, WSOC-TV/9, had scheduled the pilot special for That Was The Week That Was to run on November 24 at 11:00 P.M. Eastern Time, after that night's prime time schedule and 14 days after its NBC network airing. (Of course, the assassination of President Kennedy and its aftermath scratched that entire weekend's schedule.) Judging from all this, at the very least I assume that the networks, or at least CBS and NBC, would get a primary affiliate a filmed prime time show for that current week if it was scheduled to run during the prime time frame, while a run outside of prime time would hold the 16mm print up for a couple of weeks...