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SAVE WLW Night time Signal Petition

I heard that also. That would certainly change the broadcasting landscape, and toss out the historic distinction of those well known stations!
 
BigA Thanks for the link. I guess Iheart is getting the word out to listeners of their 50kw AM signals that this proposal could become reality, Which I doubt it will. I have to think it reducing power would create more problems than it would solve. It would interesting to see how many signatures they have so far on that petition. I bet it's not many.
 
microbob said:
I have to think it reducing power would create more problems than it would solve.
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By the same token, it follows the recent pattern of FCC regulations, which is to provide benefits for smaller stations and licensees.

While it's not good for a handful of heritage stations, it might help a large number of smaller ones.
 
microbob said:
Anyone know anything about these proposed FCC rules that would require Class A signal station’s like WLW to reduce power at night? Seems like this would not be fair to these high powered signals like WLW who are 50kw day and night. Anyway they are now promoting this petition on Mike McConnell’s show and Steve Sommers show.

http://www.700wlw.com/onair/bill-cunningham-235/save-am-radio-petition-learn-more-14424190/
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No serious mention has been made about reducing power levels. The proposal is to drop skywave protection while continuing to maintain full groundwave protection. I believe the only ones affected by this will be dxers. I doubt if anyone else will even notice.
 
semoochie said:
What more do they want?
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They bought stations that were licensed to do a certain thing, which included skywave protction. Now the government is changing the deal.

Imagine the government lowering your Social Security payment after they promised you something else.
 
TheBigA said:
They bought stations that were licensed to do a certain thing, which included skywave protction. Now the government is changing the deal.

Imagine the government lowering your Social Security payment after they promised you something else.
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But if those skywave listeners can't be monetized in the form of additional or more expensive advertising, why should the owners of the 50 kw stations care? They'll still have coverage in their home markets, where the sellable audience is (as tiny as that may be in terms of under-55s).
 
TheBigA said:
They bought stations that were licensed to do a certain thing, which included skywave protction. Now the government is changing the deal.

Imagine the government lowering your Social Security payment after they promised you something else.
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AM stations were authorized with the understanding that coverage would extend out to the 0.5mv/m too but that's no longer practical, which seems to make the clear channel stations point moot. If you can't comfortably hear the signal much past 10mv/m, what's the point in protecting the skywave signal, when the groundwave is already protected out to 0.1mv/m?
 
TheBigA said:
Obviously they do. Otherwise they wouldn't have the petition. Right?
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They are collecting the signatures of the average listener they have over 65 yrs old who listens to George Noory, who is on every 50kw signal at night, and believe the world is ending soon.
 
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microbob said:
They are collecting the signatures of the average listener they have over 65 yrs old who listens to George Noory, who is on every 50kw signal at night, and believe the world is ending soon.
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Last time I checked, it doesn't matter who signs a petition, but rather how many sign it. So their age and beliefs are irrelevant.
 
In WLW's case, there's something to be said for reaching those fringe Reds fans, that they still rely on to stuff a bus full and drive 100 miles to the game. I'm wondering how many new stations would actually start or move, there would still need to be directional signals installed to protect Cincinnati (Albany, whoever) and that's not easy to do anymore.
 
KCBR 1040 Colorado Springs would benefit with this proposal at the expense of WHO 1040. But will KCBR even bother with setting up a DA? They're omni now, it's simple, they're probably not going to get more than 30 watts omni which won't do any good, and most importantly, KCBR has an FM translator with 180 watts that, while it technically has negative HAAT, it's 800 to 1000 feet above much of the Springs. Who needs an expensive DA or a lousy 30 watts omni?
 
I'd be for allowing more signal to any station that guaranteed it would use only live, local programming. We don't need more places to hear the bird or voice tracking. If they think the programming is valuable enough to put a live body at the mic, turn it up.
 
Arbitorn said:
I'd be for allowing more signal to any station that guaranteed it would use only live, local programming. We don't need more places to hear the bird or voice tracking. If they think the programming is valuable enough to put a live body at the mic, turn it up.
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In other words, turn back technology that makes possible doing things we wished we could do 50 years ago but couldn't.
 
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