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Fox News Down in 3rd place in the ratings for cable news

Blaming this on the media ignores the fact that he was wrong. Just as with O'Reilly, blaming liberals ignores the fact that he was an abuser.

Hannity finds himself in a similar place as Brian Williams. Maybe not exactly the same, but similar. He got caught. Now he's trying to blame others. At least Brian was man enough to take responsibility.
 
http://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2017/5/26/hannity-goes-on-vacation

Editorial by FTV Live and the Hannity fiasco.

the truth of the matter is that Sean Hannity really is on vacation and he really is coming back. The same might not be said for some of his advertisers.

A number of Hannity advertisers are taking a "vacation" from his Fox News show, because they have just now figured out the guy is an idiot.

Hannity has gone on Fox News night after night and spewed his hate for all people that don't think like him and somehow, a few of his advertisers are just figuring this out now.

Sean Hannity is all that Fox News has left. They are not going to let their last remaining star go and companies that are pulling their ads, because of pressure from the left and no better than he is.

If you stood for Hannity before, you should stand for him now. If you're company that bows so easy to pressure from the right or the left, then you are a company I don't want to deal with.

When you placed your ads on his Fox News show, you knew what his message was. You loved the fact that you were getting exposure on a high rated show. But, the second there is some push back, you pull your ads and run and hide.

I might not like the message that Sean Hannity preaches to his viewers, but I think he has every right to say it.

An advertiser gets to choose where they want to place their money, but you should do so with commitment and integrity.

If you don't like the message, don't place your ad there. But, don't jump back and forth....it makes you look spineless as a company.

As much as I don't like what he says, I stand with Sean.

See you back on Tuesday Mr. Hannity.
 
I agree with Scott Jones about ad companies need to have a spine and not be spineless in FTV Live article. And no I don't believe theories on Seth Rich which needs to stop.
 
oh, a lot of people are driving the Fox bus. Pretty much anyone who wants a free ticket can also ride and claim a nice cash reward. You are right, BigA. Someone needs to put the brakes on this doomed bus. Looks like the next generation is driving it rather quickly into the pit of cable hell.
 
Today a Fox News poll reports that the president's approval rating is down. I wonder if this would have happened under Ailes:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...voters-support-special-counsel-on-russia.html

Probably not given how Ailes ran Fox News. But the real question here is the core demos. How many Pro-Trump audiences are really going to stay with Fox News when theres been constant hype by the Spokespeople of Sinclair and GCN that they do a better job or more powerful at representing Pro-Trump audiences in recent months from the Sinclair deal with Tribune and some of these pro-Trump audiences going to Infowars.

But then again lets hope new management at Fox News search for their new demographics and succeed with that.
 
To think the current POTUS loves this network and even tweets about it while slamming the "Fake" media. Unfortunately, the viewers are finding "failing" CNN and MSNBC and their "fake news" to be more real truthful.
 
To think the current POTUS loves this network and even tweets about it while slamming the "Fake" media. Unfortunately, the viewers are finding "failing" CNN and MSNBC and their "fake news" to be more real truthful.

As we saw during the election, fake news got more views than traditional mainstream news. So by calling mainstream news "fake," he's actually helping them. He certainly hasn't stopped doing interviews with them. And his people haven't stopped leaking information to them. So it's a love-hate thing. He loves the attention, and hates that he can't control it. Meanwhile, to their credit, Fox hasn't avoided Russia stories, and has quoted the same "unnamed sources" everyone else is using.

BTW he tweeted today that some writers are "making up" stories or quotes, but if so, why has no one disputed any of them? Both parties in Congress seem to think they're true. You don't hear Congress calling it fake news. On the Sunday talk shows, the administration didn't question the stories. They just said if it happened, it wasn't a problem. The longer these stories get repeated without any information to the contrary, the more they appear to be correct. I think we'll see what's true and what's fake in the coming week. How that plays out could mean a lot for the so-called "fake news" in the future. During Watergate, it took a while before Woodward & Bernstein's reporting became accepted, and got put on the front page. Once it did, there was no stopping it.
 
That same "fake news" made Trump in the first place and it largely backfired on them. They promoted Trump for clicks and as an easy opponent for Hillary (this was supposed to be a coronation). I have a hard time believing NBC just "found" the Billy Bush tape at the last minute, instead of releasing it during the primaries.

Hannity may or may not lose the Fox News show, but, unlike O'Reilly, he'll still have the radio show which has nothing to do with Fox News.
 
Many times networks suffer ratings loss when rotting begins internally. In the case of FOX cable news, it started with Roger being shown the door for blatant sexual harassment, followed by O'Reilly, now several lawsuits from talent and staff. As BigA says, nobody is captain of that ship, mainly because it's coming apart inside. Some would chalk it up to Karma. Me? I'll reserve comment.
 
Might be two sons who want the cash and are just taking the network down the toilet too...right before their father's eyes.
 
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Might be two sons who want the cash and are just taking the network down the toilet too...right before their father's eyes.

They are way up the food chain and not directly involved in managing Fox News. The problems there were caused by the people there.
 
Well I remember stories at one point at point that there was tensions between Ailes and Murdoch sons

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...3d06b37f256_story.html?utm_term=.c13e98710089

The Murdoch Sons Wanted Fox News Channel to be objective and sane like sky News in the UK and Fox O&O's like KTTV and KTVU but its due to the financial interests to 21st century Fox at the time though.

For years, the differences didn’t matter. Ailes was making money and had the ear of family patriarch Rupert, who protected him. And when Lachlan, who was being groomed to be Rupert’s successor, abruptly left his News Corp. executive posts and went to Australia for 10 years, Ailes cheerfully moved into Lachlan’s office next to Rupert.

Now their differences have acquired new significance not only for the family but for 21st Century Fox investors and the future of American political discourse.

“The Murdoch sons, Lachlan and James, it’s been a long-held goal of theirs to remove Ailes from Fox News,” said Gabe Sherman, an editor at New York magazine and the author of a biography of Roger Ailes. “But they’ve been unable to do it because their father has consistently sided with him over their wishes. But they now have the corporate power to force his removal, which has been a goal of theirs stretching back more than a decade.”

It is not clear whether the Murdoch brothers will put a new imprint on Fox News. But some of their views appear to contrast sharply with common themes hit by the network’s personalities.

Ailes has relished in attacking the establishment — “the East Coast and West Coast people who frequent the same parties” he told C-SPAN in an interview in 2004 — but James does not share his attitudes and interests.

James has long had an interest in global warming and measures needed to stop it. He sought to make BSkyB, one part of Murdoch’s European operations, carbon-neutral. And his wife, Kathryn, sits on the board of the Environmental Defense Fund; she is also president of the Quadrivium Foundation, which focuses on natural resources, “civic life, childhood health and equal opportunity.”

And while many longtime readers of National Geographic feared that Rupert Murdoch, who has dismissed climate-change concerns, would water down the magazine’s coverage of global warming, James has been supportive of the coverage and of the magazine’s independence.

the danger for the brothers is figuring out a post-Ailes formula for continued success.

“Fox News is one of the most important media properties in the industry,” said Brian Wieser, an analyst of 21st Century Fox at Pivotal Research Group. “More than a source of influence for some (and agitation for others), it is a highly profitable entity that accounts for a large share of its parent company’s value.”

He said that SNL Kagan data indicates that Fox News and its sibling Fox Business generated $900 million in ad revenue and $2.5 billion in total revenue last year.
“Fox News is a ratings juggernaut, dwarfing CNN in time consumption by 2.2 times last year,” Wieser said. Fox News channel ratings topped all cable networks for the first time in the first quarter of this year, according to Fox, claiming 2.4 million viewers in prime time.

“The business [Ailes has] built, and the channels he’s built, are terrific,” Lachlan told the Hollywood Reporter. “We have a huge regard for him, and he’s done a great job.”

But will that formula continue to work? The demographics of Fox News skew toward older viewers. Moreover, the network faces a potential exodus of talent because some of the key anchors have contracts that let them leave if Ailes does.

“It’s possible that just being bombastic is where the successful formula is,” said Wieser. “There could be changes to broaden their focus that could play out, but it’s really hard to say what is the revenue-maximizing choice both short- and long-term.”

He said that as media becomes more global, “it’s possible that something bombastic could also work globally, too, but on the other hand, it might be somewhat alienating.”

The brothers have been cautious in public. “The health of the Fox network depends on the quality of the programming, and we’re really doing stuff creatively that works,” James chimed in during the same Hollywood Reporter interview. “The model around it will evolve, and we have to have an appetite for that change. Too often in the industry, we focus on the existing or past business rules and not on the product itself and new business rules and opportunities that are going to emerge from that.”

A person familiar with the sons, who are frequently clad in blue jeans, said they are more international in their views, placing emphasis on the rapid growth of digital and mobile businesses in places such as India. They are also focused on the need to develop core brands, such as the National Geographic or sports stations, that can be packaged in online video bundles that people will pay to access. James and Lachlan are also influenced by how their children consume content, the person said, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk freely about the Murdochs.
 
They are way up the food chain and not directly involved in managing Fox News. The problems there were caused by the people there.

Still a holding, still worth cash. High up the food chain simply means they can sell it rather than try to manage what they have wrought.
 
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