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Cable systems located in one market that carry another market’s channels in HD

Comcast Toms River, NJ (Ocean County - New York DMA) carries the Big Four, PBS (WHYY), CW, and MNT Philadelphia in HD alongside the New York locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300

Verizon Fios Island Heights, NJ (Ocean County - New York DMA) carries ABC Philadelphia in HD alongside the New York locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300

Comcast Long Beach Island, NJ (Ocean County - New York DMA) carries the Big Four, PBS (WHYY), CW, and MNT Philadelphia in HD alongside the New York locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300

Verizon Fios Mercer County, NJ (Philadelphia DMA) carries the Big Four, CW, and MNT New York in HD alongside the Philadelphia locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300

Comcast Trenton, NJ (Mercer County - Philadelphia DMA) carries the Big Four, CW, and MNT New York in HD alongside the Philadelphia locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300
 
ftballfan said:
I take it the grandfather clauses are running out
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what grandfather clause? Technically KIMT, KAAL and KEYC are still significant viewed in Kossuth County (KAAL has a translator in Graner, IA which covers Clear Lake/Mason City area and Titonka is within reach). More and more cable companies are dropping the duplication of networks unless their market is a "orphan" or just get out of state stations.

Kossuth
KIMT, 3, Mason City, IA (formerly KGLO)
KAAL, 6, Austin, MN (formerly KAUS)
KEYC-TV, 12, Mankato, MN
 
actually going all digital freed up more bandwidth. My market is still QAM on the lifeline and instead of having to use 12 analog stations for the locals they just cram them onto 1 maybe 2 digital stations.
 
Hillary Communications in Medicine Park, OK (Comanche County - Lawton/Wichita Falls DMA) carries CBS, CW, FOX, and NBC OKC in HD alongside ABC, CBS, MNT, and NBC Lawton/Wichita Falls. PBS is a statewide network and is available in HD. SD adds ABC Oklahoma City and FOX Wichita Falls: http://hillcom.net/channel-lineup-numerical/ (Zap2it lists the system (with most of the same channels) as Southern Plains Cable: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-300&stdOffset=-360)
 
Mountain Telephone Sandy Hook, KY (Elliott County - Charleston/Huntington DMA) carries the following in HD:
ABC, CW, FOX, NBC Charleston/Huntington
CBS, ION, WLJC Lexington
CBS Hazard
KET (statewide PBS)
http://mountaintelephone.com/channels/pdf/elliott.pdf (it also carries subchannels of some Lexington station whose main channels aren't seen on this system, especially those without affiliates in Charleston/Huntington)
 
Comcast Santa Maria, CA (Santa Barbara County - Santa Barbara-SLO DMA) carries KCET from Los Angeles in HD alongside the SB-SLO locals (SB-SLO doesn't have a PBS member of its own and this system doesn't carry any PBS member in HD): https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-420&stdOffset=-480
SD adds PBS [KQED] San Francisco and KCAL Los Angeles. Also, KNBC's newscasts are seen on a channel that's otherwise paid programming.

Cox Santa Barbara, CA (Santa Barbara County - Santa Barbara-SLO DMA) carries PBS [KOCE], KCET, KJLA, and KCAL Los Angeles in HD alongside the SB-SLO locals (SB-SLO doesn't have a PBS member of its own): https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-420&stdOffset=-480

Charter San Luis Obispo, CA (San Luis Obispo County - Santa Barbara-SLO DMA) carries PBS [KQED] San Francisco in HD alongside the SB-SLO locals (SB-SLO doesn't have a PBS member of its own): https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-420&stdOffset=-480
SD adds KCAL Los Angeles.
 
Empire Access has several systems that qualify.
The system serving Arkport (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Bath (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Canisteo (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Hammondsport (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Hornell (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Keuka Park (Yates County - Rochester DMA), Naples (Ontario County - Rochester DMA), North Hornell (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), and Penn Yan (Yates County - Rochester DMA) carries the Big Four + PBS from both Rochester and Elmira/Corning in HD. Also, CW Rochester is in HD, while SD adds ION Buffalo and CW and MNT Elmira/Corning: http://www.empireaccess.com/files/EmpAccess_Bath_Hornell_Naples_PY_Channel_Lineup.pdf.pdf

The system serving Athens (Bradford County PA - Scranton/Wilkes-Barre DMA), Big Flats (Chemung County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Corning (Steuben County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Montour Falls (Schuyler County - Elmira/Corning DMA), Sayre (Bradford County PA - Scranton/Wilkes-Barre DMA), South Waverly (Bradford County PA - Scranton/Wilkes-Barre DMA), Troy (Bradford County PA - Scranton/Wilkes-Barre DMA), Watkins Glen (Schuyler County - Elmira/Corning DMA), and Waverly (Tioga County - Binghamton DMA) carries the Big Four + CW from both Elmira/Corning and Scranton/Wilkes-Barre in HD. Also, PBS Elmira/Corning is in HD while SD adds MNT Elmira/Corning and ION, MNT, and PBS Scranton/Wilkes-Barre: http://www.empireaccess.com/files/EmpAccess_BigFlats_Corning_Watkins_Waverly_Channel_Lineup.pdf and http://www.empireaccess.com/files/EmpAccess_Sayre_Athens_Troy_Channel_Lineup.pdf (these two lineups are the exact same except for the PA communities getting PCN on cable)

The system serving Batavia, NY (Genesee County - Buffalo DMA) carries the Big Four + PBS from both Buffalo and Rochester in HD. Also, CW Rochester is in HD while SD adds CW, ION, and MNT Buffalo: http://www.empireaccess.com/files/Emp_Access_NY_Batavia_Channel_Lineup.pdf
 
Three Rivers Cable Ainsworth, NE (Brown County - Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney DMA) carries ABC, CBS, and FOX HD from Sioux Falls alongside the L/H/K locals: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-300&stdOffset=-360

Allo Communications Alliance, NE (Box Butte County - Denver DMA) carries the Big Three from the Scottsbluff side of the Cheyenne-Scottsbluff market (NBC is HD only), CW+ (HD only!), and NET (PBS) in HD, but nothing else in regards to locals. No FOX in HD at all and no Denver stations in HD (however, the Big Four + CW + MNT Denver are all seen in SD): https://www.allocommunications.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ALLO-Ch-Guide_Alliance.pdf

Charter Communications Alliance, NE (Box Butte County - Denver DMA) carries ABC, CBS, and PBS Scottsbluff in HD alongside the Denver Big Four. SD adds CW and MNT Denver: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-360&stdOffset=-420

Fort Randall Telephone Atkinson, NE (Holt County - Lincoln/Hastings/Kearney DMA) carries SDPTV and NBC Sioux City in HD alongside the L/H/K locals (KLKN for ABC; KSNB is HD only via KOLN-DT2). SD adds KWGN Denver: http://www.hcinet.net/fortrandall/wp-content/uploads/Atkinson_Lineup.pdf
 
ftballfan said:
Allo Communications Alliance, NE (Box Butte County - Denver DMA) carries the Big Three from the Scottsbluff side of the Cheyenne-Scottsbluff market (NBC is HD only), CW+ (HD only!), and NET (PBS) in HD, but nothing else in regards to locals. No FOX in HD at all and no Denver stations in HD (however, the Big Four + CW + MNT Denver are all seen in SD): https://www.allocommunications.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ALLO-Ch-Guide_Alliance.pdf

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zap2it shows FOX HD on 306
https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-360&stdOffset=-420
 
Blue Valley Telecommunications serves the following communities in northeast Kansas, all in the Topeka DMA: Axtell (Marshall County), Beattie (Marshall County), Centralia (Nemaha County), Frankfort (Marshall County), Hanover (Washington County), Home (Marshall County), Linn (Washington County), Marysville (Marshall County), Oketo (Marshall County), Onaga (Pottawatomie County), Palmer (Washington County), Summerfield (Marshall County), Vermillion (Marshall County), Washington (Washington County), Waterville (Marshall County), Westmoreland (Pottawatomie County), and Wheaton (Pottawatomie County).
The system carries CBS and PBS Lincoln in HD alongside the Topeka locals. SD adds Lincoln-based independent NewsChannel Nebraska: https://bluevalley.net/sites/default/files/new_ip_lineup_4.pdf and https://bluevalley.net/sites/default/files/new_rf_lineup_4.pdf (IP or RF varies by community, but the carriage of the Lincoln stations are the same on both)
 
Cunningham Communications has systems in parts of three DMAs.
Their Wichita DMA system (Jewell and Mitchell counties) carries NBC Kansas City, the Big Four Tri-Cities NE, and CBS Topeka in HD (for an extra price) alongside the Wichita locals: https://cunninghamtelephoneandcable.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2018-WICHITA.pdf
Their Topeka DMA system (Cloud County) carries NBC Kansas City, the Big Four Tri-Cities NE, and CBS + CW + FOX Wichita in HD (for an extra price) alongside the Topeka locals: https://cunninghamtelephoneandcable.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2018-TOPKEA.pdf
Their Lincoln-Hastings-Kearney DMA system (Republic County [an orphan county]) carries NBC Kansas City, CBS + CW + FOX Wichita, and CBS Topeka in HD (for an extra price) alongside the Lincoln-Hastings-Kearney locals (KLKN is not carried at all): https://cunninghamtelephoneandcable.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/2018-LINCOLN.pdf

However, all three systems only get KOOD (the secondary PBS for the Wichita DMA) for PBS.
 
I wonder what is right as both zap2it and tvguide show the CW coming off of WBKP (assume the subchannel of WBUP)
Titantv has it all messed up. They show cable stations in the 2-13 range
 
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