How far south? My parents and I stayed in a place at 25th Avenue South in Myrtle Beach. The little orange business card sized channel guide (imagine that!) said WCIV was one of the NBC stations. WCBD was ABC and WCSC was CBS. We got all those plus the Wilmington stations and WBTW. Wilmington did not have CBS so I don't know what the situation was there.
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Is it illegal to watch an out of market TV station ???
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Ideally, anyone who adds information will have a reliable source to go with it, and if it's online you can check it for yourself. There are people who patrol changes.
Of course, I question anything sourced with Wikipedia.
Rockville only gets DC now. One of my best friends works there and lives in nearby Gaithersburg and all his cable offers is DC channels. I think once you get north of Montgomery County, where both of those cities are located, you get both DC and Baltimore.
In the analog days, I have no doubt an antenna at his place would have picked the full complement (or close to it) from both cities. Now, I am not so sure. From a high-rise in that area, you probably could get all the DC and Baltimore stations with few issues via a digital antenna.
They were dropped in MB in the late 90s because of channel space. WWAY was also dropped then. Them and WPDE co-existed for a long time. When WPDE started in 1980, it was licensed only to Florence. They barely covered MB. WWAY and WECT’s OTA digital signal still easily covers Myrtle. WSFX switched to Fox from CBS because of the Myrtle Beach market. They were the Fox until WFXB became the Fox in 1997.
I check Wikipedia for radio related information often.
When there is a verifiable article about something from radio's history, I will include a link in the appropriate place on my website (the one listed below). I verify the basic facts with my own collection, and find that of the things I look up about 25% have serious errors or misstated facts. Another 25% have missing data, vague references and include sources that are themselves not accurate.
So only about 50% of Wikipedia articles that I access about radio history are apparently fully accurate.
Radio station wikis are about 90% wrong or incomplete.
WECT overs Myrtle? What do they need WMBF for?
I've wondered why WECT had to reduce the area it covered, although I'm guessing having the tower so far away from Wilmington would have been a negative with digital TV.
Part of it was due to WECT’s signal getting weaker. They used to be the NBC in Lumberton and other more inland parts of the Border Belt.
NBC also wanted to have a full power affiliate in that market. They were tired of the hodgepodge in that area. WMBF was all digital, because it signed on for the ‘08 Olympics. Wilmington also went all digital before everyone else, remember, in September 2008.
NBC also wanted to have a full power affiliate in that market. They were tired of the hodgepodge in that area. WMBF was all digital, because it signed on for the ‘08 Olympics. Wilmington also went all digital before everyone else, remember, in September 2008.
In addition to serving as one of two NBCs for Florence-Myrtle Beach (along with now-sister station WIS [WMBF is also a sister station to those two]), WECT was also NBC for Fayetteville and Southern Pines (and remarkably still carried in both areas on Charter Spectrum to this day) due to the weak NBC station in Raleigh/Durham (until 1995) and the Triad's NBC broadcasting from well northwest of the other Triad stations.
As far as the second question, I've never seen that from am out-of-market local channel on any cable system I've subscribed to.
WGN used to black out its own morning news on the superstation. Many said it was because of syndex, which must have meant certain syndicated bits aired within the news. Can't think of another reason local news would have to be blacked out beyond its own market, but I think WGN blacked out more because they wanted to than because they had to.
JeeperOne
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As someone who LIVES in Denver, I use NewsOn (And soon the new SBTV once they launch apps for the streaming sticks I have - HINT.....HINT SBTV
) & have the stick apps BOTH for KMGH 7 & KUSA 9, yet because of my sleep disorder, I often find myself up at 2:00 AM (Whether it's in the beginning, middle, or (As it'll likely be today) towards the end of my day)Do they REALLY think I'm gonna watch INFOMERCIALS ??
HELL NO !!
If I'm not watching whatever is on CBSN, I'm likely watching the late news out of Hawaii (Usually via KITV 4 & it's Roku app) till 3:00 AM at which point I either turn to NewsOn or (In the case of the Gray, Heartland & Scripps stations plus other standalone stations like KITV) to the individual station apps to start watching the MORNING newscasts from the East Coast & work my way west as the stations start winding down their main morning newscasts (I usually avoid the 7:00 AM shows on the Fox, CW & MyNet stations with FEW exceptions as most of those are what I call "Fluff Stuff", which is what I'm HARDLY interested in when I'm wanting the hard stuff)
If I'm not doing that, I'll launch the Sling app & throw it on MSNBC - ALL DAY (From Morning Joe on as anything else before is reruns from the previous night & I don't need to see Willie Geist before MJ anyway)
That all said - I'll sometimes try to be on the "Sly Side" to catch whatever is being aired on a particular station if they don't stop their stream (I watched nearly 10 minutes of Stephen Colbert via KLAS in Las Vegas when they were on NewsOn once & back in the 1990s, I
was able to watch EVERYTHING on NBC O&O KNSD in San Diego had aired FOR DAYS ON END till I STUPIDLY emailed their webmaster thanking them for allowing me to do that (That's when I found out they WERE NOT supposed to let me do that #Oops). Since then, they shut down their stream at the end of the newscast
Another time in 1999, I caught THE ENTIRE two hours of the "Today" show via (I believe it was Scripps owned) KJRH out of Tulsa (I DID NOT email them, but I thank them anyway
)In both cases, it was DIALUP quality video (Broadband was only available in the Suburbs here back then), but WHAT THE HEY - It was BETTER THAN NOTHING (Which is my only alternative at the time as I couldn't afford Cable or Satellite TV at the time & getting OTA signals through apartment building walls was an iffy proposition at best (Even MORESO now that we're in the DTV era)
Anyway, that's MY tall tale
JeeperOne
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I watch all the other TEGNA stations on NewsOn ALL THE TIME !!
If they thought NewsOn (And SBTV for that matter) Geotags & restricts Internet reception of their newscasts to their viewing area, then THEY WERE SADLY MISTAKEN !! In fact, NO webware technology I'm aware is capable of that
If they want to be THAT restrictive, then they should do what Nexstar did with its stations - PULL THEM OFF the major directories like NewsOn & SBTV & just run them as a bunch of standalones like Heartland & Scripps do (And even THEIR Roku channels aren't THAT restrictive as anyone can watch them too if you want to add all those apps)
JeeperOne
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http://www.uhftelevision.com/articles/kccc.html
Here is an interesting article KOVR was originally going to be in the Bay Area before going to Sacramento. Yes This article may partially explain why Solano County became split between the Sacramento and San Francisco TV Markets due to how KOVR's License was handled in the early days.
Here is an interesting article KOVR was originally going to be in the Bay Area before going to Sacramento. Yes This article may partially explain why Solano County became split between the Sacramento and San Francisco TV Markets due to how KOVR's License was handled in the early days.
JeeperOne
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In which case, I'd have been prosecuted as a juvenile as I was into (What I now know to be) broadcast DXing as I'd try to pull in KKTV 11 & KRDO 13 all the time
(KOAA was a no go because it was always advertised as being Channel 5 out of Colorado Springs (In which case, it was sandwiched between KOA/KCNC 4 & KRMA 6) instead of its true RF location of Channel 30 out of Pueblo (In which case, it's blocked by KDVR 31 & whatever was on there before it signed on. Ditto with KTSC (Advertised as being on Channel 8, which was sandwiched between KLZ/KMGH 7 & KBTV/KUSA 9) instead of its ACTUAL RF location of Channel 15 also out of Pueblo) & later KXRM 21 (Which was NEVER receivable even before KTVD 20 signed on)
Anything on channel 57 out of Southern Colorado was also a no go as we had the Godcaster(s) on that channel here (In fact, NOTHING on UHF out of SoCo for that matter was receivable unless you lived WAY down south in the 'Burbs)
TO THIS DAY - I remember one of (I'm sure MANY) KKTV's top of the hour station IDs where the announcer says "KKTV 11 - CBS for Southern Colorado". That was from the EARLY TO MID 1970s
There were also times I'd either watch (Or TRY to watch) ENTIRE shows (Network, syndicated, whatever) airing on KKTV or KRDO (Whenever I had the chance, I'd try to watch "Loving" on KRDO as KUSA had long since dropped the show from its lineup. Same with "Search For Tomorrow" & "The Doctors" on KOAA (Though as I mentioned before, I could never pull them in to watch ANYTHING but snow or off-channel carriers of either KOA/KCNC 4 or KRMA 6)
Heck, there was even a time where I had a summer job at my school (Which was right across from the old Children's Hospital). Back in the '80s, while waiting for my ride home, I'd go over there & watch TV in the waiting area where I took advantage of the unique positioning that it had to pull in KYCU 5, (Which often acknowledged its viewers as close to me as BOULDER (Now KGWN 5 out of Cheyenne & to my knowledge, makes no mention of its NoCo viewers though I'm sure many can still receive it OTA even today) to catch "Guiding Light" at 1:00 PM (Then CBS affiliate was airing it at 2:00 PM) & other shows like "All My Children" (Which KUSA 9 aired at the network recommended 11:00 AM timeslot) This was when Channel 5 in Cheyenne, WY (Like KTVS 3 out of Sterling, CO) had ABC as a secondary (Nowadays such an affiliation arrangement would mean ABC being put on 5.2)
On the radio side, OMG.....I could on & on but that'd make for an EVEN LONGER post
lolSo next time someone gets into it like that with you, educate them on just HOW FAR OTA signals can travel as THEY KNOW NO SUCH BOUNDARIES
Pat
JeeperOne
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Then how can you get a MISSOURI station with a 10 ft. antenna ?? that don't make sense
JeeperOne
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Yet FOR THE LONGEST TIME, WFAA in Dallas & WUSA 9 in Washington DC WERE on NewsOn
Strange.....
JeeperOne
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What does THIS have to do with the topic at hand ?? #Confused
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