They preempted that for this?

[bobgoodbob]

WBAL, is showing the Ravens At Rams game right now. Don't know what's going to happen with The Voice and Buff City Law tonight.

In Los Angeles, KABC is showing the game. Don't know what's going to happen with Dancing with the Stars and The Good Doctor.

 

[WheelRob]

WBAL, is showing the Ravens At Rams game right now. Don't know what's going to happen with The Voice and Buff City Law tonight.

In Los Angeles, KABC is showing the game. Don't know what's going to happen with Dancing with the Stars and The Good Doctor.

WBAL: Inside Edition at 7:00 (an encore; WBAL also airs it at 12:30 PM although it might be the previous day's ep) is, for some reason, pre-empted by local program "Justin, Scott & Spiegel Shouldn't Be on TV", which traditionally airs after SNL. Access Hollywood at 7:30 is bumped to 2:30 AM, replacing its companion show Access Daily; Fallon onwards is delayed half an hour by the game, which cuts AD's slot in half, so it makes sense to fill it with a makegood of AH. Voice and BCL are not listed on their schedule at all. It's possible they were moved to 11.2 MeTV, but I don't see any announcements about it on their site or social media.

KABC: Same as last time. DWTS at 9:00 PM, TGD at 1:07 AM, Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune delayed by one day and airing Tuesday-Saturday (this was also what West Coast ABC's would do when MNF was a weekly ABC event). Despite this, KABC's Twitter keeps promoting LA-area Wheel contestants on the day they air everywhere else with no note about them airing a day later in their home city.

 

[WheelRob]

Due to Thanksgiving and Black Friday college football KEYC Mankato is shuffling its schedule around (they do this when that happens)
CBS changes
5:30AM Protection Court (usually 10AM on FOX)...replaces news
6:00AM Dr Phil (usually on at 3pm)...replaces news
noon Wheel (pushed up from 6:30pm)...replaces news
2:00PM Live with Kelly and Ryan (normally on at 9)....replaces Lets Make a Deal (Parade is on from 8-11)
12:37am Ellen (normally on at 4pm)...replaces 2nd showing of Last Man Standing
sign off pushed back 1/2 hour

FOX 12 Mankato (KEYC-DT2)
Thursday is a cluster
9am Funny You Should Ask (pushed up from 2pm...usually double shot)
following are pushed up an hour replacing double run of Big Bang
9:30pm Mom
10:00 Mike & Molly
10:30 The Game
11:00 How I met Your Mother
11:30 Daily Mail TV
midnight Rachael (normally 9am)
1am Peoples Court (normally 11am)
2am Family Feud (normally 3pm but a double shot)
sign off at 3am


Friday is better
CBS
12:37 Ellen

FOX
1AM Jeopardy (usually at 4pm but double shot)
1:30am Peoples Court
All other syndicated shows on FOX not shown nor Phil on CBS

Very interesting changes all around, especially with the game shows. Very rarely does Wheel get moved to morning or afternoon in situations like this; KEYC and also KHOU Houston will be the first affiliates to air Wheel on Thanksgiving at 1E/12C.

What's also surprising is seeing another station give Funny You Should Ask a better time slot than other game shows. FYSA gets moved to 9 AM and bumps Rachael Ray, but Feud and Jeopardy! get bumped overnight. Wow.

Also a bit shocked that Ellen has lower priority than the other affected talk syndies. Most stations give it top priority. On WNBC, Ellen is the only syndie that they actually bother to move to another time slot when pre-empted instead of not airing it at all (usually the first hour slot before whatever the event is).


Are Jeopardy! and Wheel the only first-run, non-news-related syndicated shows that actually opt to air new episodes on Thanksgiving and Black Friday? Phil, Ellen, Kelly/Ryan, Feud, 25 Words or Less, and Judge Judy are all reruns those days.

 

[CTListener]

Despite this, KABC's Twitter keeps promoting LA-area Wheel contestants on the day they air everywhere else with no note about them airing a day later in their home city.

Because a television station in the No. 2 market in the U.S. has no obligation to notify one freakin' family of a schedule change!

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

Might not be top of the ol’ priority list with all that goes into managing a multitude of tasks.

 

[Mr Tony]

What's also surprising is seeing another station give Funny You Should Ask a better time slot than other game shows. FYSA gets moved to 9 AM and bumps Rachael Ray, but Feud and Jeopardy! get bumped overnight. Wow.

reason is on Thursday the NFL pregame starts at 9:30am CST which would be right in the middle of Rachael. NFL from 11:30-3 then a golf special from 3-4. Here is the "normal" schedule from 9am-5pm on KEYC-DT2
9:00 Rachael
10:00 Protection Court X2
11:00 Peoples Court
noon Hot bench x2
1:00 Judge Judy x2
2:00 Funny You Should Ask x2
3:00 Family Feud x2
4:00 Jeopardy (new)
4:30 Jeopardy (rerun)

so it works to fill in the news spots on Turkey Day with syndicated shows.

Also a bit shocked that Ellen has lower priority than the other affected talk syndies. Most stations give it top priority.

KEYC signs off every night at 1:07 CST so where were they going to put Ellen? They do that all the time. When something syndicated gets pre-empted it goes "at the end of the day" which means after 1:07am on CBS or 1am on FOX. This time they just pre-empted the 2nd run of Last Man Standing instead.

You should have seen when the World Cup was on. KEYC shuffled stuff around every night to get it in but also try and level out the time so they could sign off at night. So a couple times you saw Family Feud episodes at same time on both CBS & FOX (well one at 1:00am on FOX and one at 1:07am on CBS)

few examples last year of the "syndicated shuffle"
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/sh...hat-for-this&p=6208417&viewfull=1#post6208417
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/sh...hat-for-this&p=6207987&viewfull=1#post6207987
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/sh...hat-for-this&p=6202862&viewfull=1#post6202862

 

[WheelRob]

Every Thanksgiving week, WTHR Indianapolis (NBC) airs a local two-part special titled "Circle of Lights: Indiana's Got Talent". The first part airs on Tuesday and is half an hour. The second part airs on Friday and is a full hour. Both air at 7:00, so Wheel of Fortune is pre-empted on both days and Jeopardy! on Friday. Both shows are moved to WALV (MeTV) in this case. Although tonight, M*A*S*H was still listed instead of WOF. Both game shows are properly listed on Friday, though. Interesting that WOF is only listed on MeTV when Jeopardy! is airing with it, but not when WOF is airing there on its own and J! remains on NBC. Hmm...

 

[WheelRob]

The only parade/football-affected syndies that are known to be getting moved in the NYC market on Thanksgving or Black Friday instead of simply not airing at all are Ellen and Access Daily, both on WNBC. Ellen normally airs at 3:00 PM, but due to the NHL game on Friday and Days of Our Lives having the day off, Ellen will air at noon that day. Access Daily, normally at 1:00 PM, is not airing Thanksgiving, but is bumped to 2:37 AM the night of Black Friday, replacing the Kelly Clarkson repeat (both daily airings are gone both days, although as with all the other talk syndies, they're reruns).

All of WCBS' syndies are gone on Thanksgiving except for Dr. Phil at 3:00 (and Comics Unleashed at 1:37 AM).

No makegoods for any syndies on FOX affiliate WNYW, although many of them also air on sister MyTV/WWOR (some the same eps, some different eps).

WABC's only syndie that is definitely affected on Black Friday is Rachael Ray at 2:00. No word on whether it will be moved to 7.2 Live Well Network like it has during the Columbus Day parade and all the Impeachment Hearings days. Hopefully if College Football overruns and interferes with Jeopardy! and Wheel, those move to LWN as well, since most of the ABC O&O's have been taking much more advantage of it this year as a backup. WABC already informed me that J! and Wheel will "very likely" be moved there on Christmas Day, after years of them not airing at all on that day because of NBA (again, I assume they're the only two non-news syndies that do new episodes on 12/25 and not reruns).

Over in Hartford, WFSB (CBS) has Dr. Oz in the unaffected 3:00 slot on Thanksgiving, and WVIT (NBC O&O) will be airing Ellen on both days - 5:00 PM on Thanksgiving (after the parade encore and replacing an hour of news), and noon on Friday like on WNBC. Access Daily is bumped to 3:07 AM on Thanksgiving, but not on Black Friday; Kelly keeps its encore that night. Neither station is doing makegoods of any other pre-empted syndies. WTNH (ABC) also does not bump or re-air any pre-empted syndicated shows in general.

 

[anotherguyTN]

In Memphis WREG CBS 3 is pre-empting Let's Make a Deal tomorrow to carry Inside Edition and Jeopardy early because of the Dallas/Buffalo game.

 

[Mr Tony]

Monday WCCO CBS Minneapolis is carrying the Vikes game from ESPN

basically they are shifting everything from 6:30-10:00 (Wheel, Rudolph, Bull, All Rise) to 1:07am-4:30am that night...late shows get moved back 1/2 hour to 11:07 & 12:07

 

[WheelRob]

Monday WCCO CBS Minneapolis is carrying the Vikes game from ESPN

basically they are shifting everything from 6:30-10:00 (Wheel, Rudolph, Bull, All Rise) to 1:07am-4:30am that night...late shows get moved back 1/2 hour to 11:07 & 12:07

I know that WCCO frequently pre-empts Wheel for Vikings pregame shows and other stuff, but they almost-always bump it to the post-Corden slots.

I'm surprised to see that WCCO is not airing the Thanksgiving episode of Wheel at all. Ellen moves up from 4:00 PM to 2:00 replacing LMAD, and Dr. Phil is bumped from 3:00 PM to 1:37 AM, but Wheel is completely gone even though there are still Paid Programming slots after Phil they could move it to, according to both Zap2It and the WCCO website.

Wheel is WCCO's only syndie that isn't airing at all on Thanksgiving. Boo. However, on Black Friday, Ellen is bumped to 1:37, Dr. Phil isn't airing at all, and Wheel is unaffected that day since CF is scheduled to end at 6E/5C, so there's hardly any risk of overrun pre-empting it in either of its two typical time slots on CBS stations.

 

[WheelRob]

In Memphis WREG CBS 3 is pre-empting Let's Make a Deal tomorrow to carry Inside Edition and Jeopardy early because of the Dallas/Buffalo game.

KAUZ in Wichita Falls, TX/Lawton, OK is doing the same, but with Jeopardy! (first-run only; the secondary rerun is gone for the day) and Wheel, amusingly pairing the two together, which is very rare in the Central Time Zone. Only a handful of markets in CST air the two back-to-back (WDJT/CBS Milwaukee and a few FOX's are the only ones, I believe), of course in the 6-7 PM hour since Wheel is stuck there by policy.

KAUZ is one of four affiliates that will be airing Wheel earlier than 7E/6C on Thanksgiving instead of overnight or not at all. Their website still has LMAD at 2, but other listings have J!/Wheel. The other three are KEYC Mankato, as already mentioned here, KAQY Monroe, LA/El Dorado, AR (moved from sister KNOE) at 5:30 PM CT in place of a newscast (ABC World News Tonight airs delayed at 6:00; KNOE is moving Jeopardy! to 4:30 AM that morning, not the following morning, on its .3 CW sub, 12 hours early), and KHOU Houston which is airing it at noon in place of a newscast, which coincidentally puts it immediately after Jeopardy! on KTRK/ABC, just like all the other ABC O&O's, just with a channel switch involved.

 

[Mr Tony]

I know that WCCO frequently pre-empts Wheel for Vikings pregame shows and other stuff, but they almost-always bump it to the post-Corden slots.

no they don't. The only time they have a Vikings pre-game is when the Vikes are on Monday Night Football. I live here...you don't

I'm surprised to see that WCCO is not airing the Thanksgiving episode of Wheel at all. Ellen moves up from 4:00 PM to 2:00 replacing LMAD, and Dr. Phil is bumped from 3:00 PM to 1:37 AM, but Wheel is completely gone even though there are still Paid Programming slots after Phil they could move it to

there is one slot and that is at 2:37am. I guess CBS thought a paid program would do better (WCCO is known during the summer when there is no sports to do paid programs on weekends from 11am-5pm)

Wheel is WCCO's only syndie that isn't airing at all on Thanksgiving. Boo. However, on Black Friday, Ellen is bumped to 1:37, Dr. Phil isn't airing at all, and Wheel is unaffected that day since CF is scheduled to end at 6E/5C, so there's hardly any risk of overrun pre-empting it in either of its two typical time slots on CBS stations.

such is life.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

Isn't there an old phrase about you can't fit 20 gallons into a 10 gallon hat?

Sometimes something's going to give when there's a finite amount of time available to work with. Setting aside that it's Thanksgiving with highly disrupted viewing patterns, it just happens. Not everything gets aired. Oh well. Such is life is spot on. And it's not treating something better or playing favorites or whatever. It's balancing obligations and business priorities.

 

[WheelRob]

The lineup of city salutes this week ended up being: M-Boston/T-Chicago/W-Denver/Th-Nashville/F-San Diego.

And not even a week after San Diego is saluted, their NBC affiliate KNSD pays the show dust. Normally, when NBC has primetime sporting events on the East Coast, Wheel and Jeopardy! slide to 9:00 and 9:30 PM. This time, 9:00 is replaced with a random local special on the environment and Wheel isn't airing at all, but Jeopardy! is still on the schedule at 9:30, naturally.

 

[CTListener]

And not even a week after San Diego is saluted, their NBC affiliate KNSD pays the show dust. Normally, when NBC has primetime sporting events on the East Coast, Wheel and Jeopardy! slide to 9:00 and 9:30 PM. This time, 9:00 is replaced with a random local special on the environment and Wheel isn't airing at all, but Jeopardy! is still on the schedule at 9:30, naturally.

Again, find and show evidence that these prefabricated in-studio salutes to cities, complete with phony baloney backdrops and everyone's idiot neighbor playing the game, do ANYTHING for either ratings or ad sales. If Jeopardy is getting the slightest bit of preferential treatment, it's because (a) it's a series with continuity and (b) its host is someone a lot of viewers are thinking about lately.

Oh, and the "random local special" wouldn't be there if the not-so-random advertisers weren't paying more to sponsor it than they would for a displaced episode of Wheel.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

Wait, was the station supposed to arrange their schedule in a debt of gratitude for being randomly mentioned on the mighty Wheel? Or that they’re somehow disrespecting Wheel by not doing so? That can’t possibly be serious.

 

[WheelRob]

A Buffalo Bills Kickoff special aired on two upstate NY affiliates yesterday at 7:30 PM. WIVB Buffalo (CBS) moved Jeopardy! to sister station WNLO (CW), replacing TMZ (which repeats at midnight anyway). WETM Elmira (NBC) moved Wheel of Fortune to its independent sub 18.2, replacing Modern Family. WETM also pre-empted Jeopardy! at 7:00 with a local special titled "Home for the Holidays", moving it to 18.2 as well, replacing a repeat of WETM's 6:00 PM newscast.

 

[WheelRob]

Both network NFL broadcasts overran tonight.

The Bills/Cowboys game's clock ran out around 7:45 Eastern, seemingly right on schedule, but the CBS Postgame Show ran until about 8:03, and then of course were several commercials. Young Sheldon started a bit delayed from the beginning on the East Coast around 8:07.

Down in Albquerque on KRQE, Jeopardy! was scheduled after the game at 6:00 Mountain (as always), and Wheel of Fortune at 6:30. As is always the case when Jeopardy!'s time slot follows a sporting event that overruns, Jeopardy! started around 6:07 from the beginning of the show, rather than being JIP'd, which means once it ends, Wheel of Fortune ends up getting JIP'd so that CBS primetime doesn't get delayed or cut off. On KRQE, as well as KKTV in Colorado Springs and KGWN in Cheyenne which air WOF at 6:00 Mountain, the show was pre-empted through the first round and was JIP'd shortly into the second round. When sports end up overrunning past 6:30 on KRQE, WOF is taken off the schedule entirely on the fly and swapped out with J! which is JIP'd as if it began at 6:30 (e.g., CBS overruns to 6:10, J! airs 6:10-6:40 in full, last 20 minutes of WOF air to 7:00; CBS overruns to 6:50, J! airs its last 10 minutes and WOF doesn't air at all). Other CBS's that air J! at 6:00 Mountain (such as KDBC in El Paso and all Montana-based CBS's) simply JIP it, so I imagine they got the show starting around the point where Alex interviews the players.

The Saints/Falcons game on NBC did not end until around 11:36 Eastern, and after postgame, NBC signed off at 11:47. WNBC news began at 11:50.

 

[WheelRob]

KNSD San Diego pre-empted Wheel of Fortune tonight (well, the time slot that they normally air it when slid back by NFL) with a special on the decline of the giraffe population...