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KABC-AM Cuts Most Of Local Lineup/ Sacramento's Armstrong and Getty to Join in 2020

https://radioinsight.com/headlines/182229/kabc-cuts-most-of-local-lineup/

Cumulus Media Talk 790 KABC Los Angeles will ring-in 2020 with an increased emphasis on syndicated programming.

The station will add The Armstrong & Getty Show for mornings from 6-10am. 105.9 WMAL Washington DC’s Larry O’Connor will remain in the 10am-12pm slot with his Los Angeles focused show. Former morning host John Phillips will move to 12-3pm as the only locally based host on the station. Westwood One’s Ben Shapiro remains in the 3-6pm afternoon slot, while Michael Savage is added for nights. KABC will also continue to broadcast USC Trojans football and basketball.


Starting 2020 Sacramento's Armstrong and Getty will be on KABC-AM.
 
They’ve been live and local for years and couldn’t move their ratings upward.
Their mistake was that their version of live and local wasn’t compelling.
In its heyday KABC was news intensive talk orchestrated by compelling hosts who harnessed lots of listener calls.
 
As many have pointed out, their ratings decline began a very long time ago. This is not a function of recent programming.

Big A, my point is despite doing a live and local broadcast day, as many would prescribe as the anecdote to the near total satellite delivered hosts approach of KEIB, their numbers continued to stagnate when not migrating south. The reason is their on-air product was not a must-listen. I submit that Doug McIntyre's AM Drive show was the last vestige of a reliably newsworthy product airing on 790 AM, and he retired a couple years ago.

Indeed, KABC's ratings decline began a very long time ago, around the time of the lamented decision to simulcast Ronn Owens from KGO, however a long slide is not a perpetual death sentence if the product can be revitalized. KFI, for example, has to a degree righted its ship, which was losing ratings points for several years mid-decade. While the 2019 version of KFI is not back at the lofty heights it possessed 10 years ago, it's certainly higher than where it was just a few years ago.
 
What a shame.

That being said, if it didn't happen like this it would have happened when Cumulus finds a buyer for KABC. No, I have no proof of this, but it makes no sense for a company climbing out of financial mess to own a single AM frequency in market 2 with a heavy operating cost.
 
Big A, my point is despite doing a live and local broadcast day, as many would prescribe as the anecdote to the near total satellite delivered hosts approach of KEIB, their numbers continued to stagnate when not migrating south.

My point is that even if they brought back all of the programming they did in their glory years, it would not result in a ratings improvement.
 
John phillips is great. But the morning show was terrible because of jillian. She is terrible for talk radio. She sounds like a school girl. Randy wang is great hope he lands on his feet. I dont see why they keep the format. It has to be hemmeraging money for cumulus so these changes should help until they find a buyer i assume.

And why does cumulus keep drew hayes? Isnt he a big part of the problem at kabc?

It wont help there numbers though.
 
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KABC billboard

So I hardly drive the 405 through LA County but was driving north for Thanksgiving and I was shocked, I tell ya, shocked that KABC has a billboard in the Torrance area on the southbound side. I was thinking, whaaaattt?? So how much money does a billboard like that cost? And whatever it is, what a waste of $$$ IMO
 
What a shame.

That being said, if it didn't happen like this it would have happened when Cumulus finds a buyer for KABC. No, I have no proof of this, but it makes no sense for a company climbing out of financial mess to own a single AM frequency in market 2 with a heavy operating cost.

It clears the WWO programs. That has value.
 
And why does cumulus keep drew hayes? Isnt he a big part of the problem at kabc?

The big part of the problem is the target audience can't receive the signal. Don't know what he could do about that.

He's been there a long time. The day he leaves, he likely won't be replaced.
 
It's hard to believe in the 1970s, this was Los Angeles' #1 station, year in, year out. KFI tried to compete with talk but it's ratings were poor. How things have changed!

>>>How can Larry O'Connor have a "Los Angeles-focused show" if he's at WMAL/Washington DC?<<< He does those hours only for KABC. They are separate from his WMAL show. I suppose he doesn't talk much about LA based topics. He simply does a show similar to the one he does in DC but says "Alice from Santa Monica, you're on the air." But perhaps something in the LA news catches his eye and he will discuss that.
 
Big A, my point is despite doing a live and local broadcast day, as many would prescribe as the anecdote to the near total satellite delivered hosts approach of KEIB, their numbers continued to stagnate when not migrating south. The reason is their on-air product was not a must-listen. I submit that Doug McIntyre's AM Drive show was the last vestige of a reliably newsworthy product airing on 790 AM, and he retired a couple years ago.

Indeed, KABC's ratings decline began a very long time ago, around the time of the lamented decision to simulcast Ronn Owens from KGO, however a long slide is not a perpetual death sentence if the product can be revitalized. KFI, for example, has to a degree righted its ship, which was losing ratings points for several years mid-decade. While the 2019 version of KFI is not back at the lofty heights it possessed 10 years ago, it's certainly higher than where it was just a few years ago.

I really haven't listened at all since they got rid of Larry Elder for the 2nd time several years ago, except for a few years ago when I made a concerted attempt to listen to Doug McIntyre's morning show. Doug is generally a very good radio personality and can bring some interesting insights and observations. I think he claims to be conservative, but if so, he has quite the liberal streak in him too, so his show is a little more politically balanced than most.

I think I tried on two or three different mornings but just couldn't take it because the show was so disjointed - Doug hardly ever got to speak. They do news on the top and half, traffic at least three times in 30 minutes and a commercial load that was beyond excessive. I think I determined that in any given hour Doug only had maybe 20 minutes of actual show time and as soon as he got to a point in any segment, they had to stop and do traffic, with commercials, back to Doug for two minutes then news, commercials, traffic, commercials, and on and on. In other words, the show had no flow, very little content, and Doug seemed to only be a bit player in his own show. I found it to be very difficult radio listening.
 
I think I tried on two or three different mornings but just couldn't take it because the show was so disjointed - Doug hardly ever got to speak. They do news on the top and half, traffic at least three times in 30 minutes and a commercial load that was beyond excessive. I think I determined that in any given hour Doug only had maybe 20 minutes of actual show time and as soon as he got to a point in any segment, they had to stop and do traffic, with commercials, back to Doug for two minutes then news, commercials, traffic, commercials, and on and on. In other words, the show had no flow, very little content, and Doug seemed to only be a bit player in his own show. I found it to be very difficult radio listening.

This is essentially every drive time show in the news/talk format, though. You can't do traffic on the sixes without interrupting the show every 10 minutes. Even news/talk shows not designed with frequent breaks like that have limited content. The Sean Hannity Show has only 34 minutes or so of Hannity an hour.

I agree with you that such a "show" is a hard listen.
 
It's hard to believe in the 1970s, this was Los Angeles' #1 station, year in, year out.

I think it's really hard to compare anything that happened in the 70s with what's happening now. On many levels, on many subjects, in many places, but especially LA.
 
This is essentially every drive time show in the news/talk format, though. You can't do traffic on the sixes without interrupting the show every 10 minutes. Even news/talk shows not designed with frequent breaks like that have limited content. The Sean Hannity Show has only 34 minutes or so of Hannity an hour.

I agree with you that such a "show" is a hard listen.

The syndicated shows like Rush and Hannity are a much easier listen because they have a clock that allows them uninterrupted time. Each of those shows starts at :06 past the hour with only one soft break until the hard break at the hour bottom. They can go for over 16 minutes uninterrupted if they like (and they do, particularly Rush) and have enough time to complete a thought or two. I felt sorry for Doug, not only does he not get any time, they have him conduct interviews during all of the that. His second question to his guest is always "can you hang on for another 10 minutes until we get to our next segment?"
 
Cumulus made the right choice. There morning show Jillian and John is the worst morning show on any AM radio station. John was great but jillian made the show unbearable. She sounded very dumb. Jillian was great on good day live but that doesnt transfer to talk radio. It was a huge mistake to ever hire her.

Dr Drew very boring. I always like peter tilden but he should of had the good sense to quit. There numbers will not improve but the bottom line will. But sooner or later kabc will go away. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic is all they are doing.
 
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