David, I have pointed out to you on multiple occasions that the man's name is Saul. For someone who demands factual accuracy from everyone else, you are having an awfully tough day today.
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K-Surf 1260 going partial classical??
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David, I have pointed out to you on multiple occasions that the man's name is Saul. For someone who demands factual accuracy from everyone else, you are having an awfully tough day today.
At last check, "sol" is the currency of Peru or spanish for sun. At least he should give respect to the man by spelling his name correctly, but it's 2020.
Who's "us"? You and Big A?? Two out of a few thousand posters here? Channel Flipper would disagree too. Like I said, just posting information about 1260 and it's sudden and partial change to classical, which I can do. This is a public forum. Give ME a break!!
Not at all. Just responding factually and correctly to your post.
It's been established some time ago that 1260 isn't making money with its current format.
Wrong, wrong and WRONG!!
1260 goes partial classical - 11/20
KRTH at 6.5 for August 2020 - 9/20
A Kind Gesture of Thanks - 6/20
KSURF, a growing Playlist - 6/19
Let's see, that's only four threads in 17 months.......all factual, all correct
Oldies comes back every few months with the same diatribe. He defines the definition of "trying the same thing over and over hoping for a different result". He makes highly inaccurate statements, despite being corrected over and over.
AM cumes over 30% of all persons in the LA market. That is not a small group.
Statistically, the station has so little listening that were it not subscribed to Nielsen, it would not even appear in the subscriber data.
Earlier in his current round of posts, he made the same negative remarks about KRTH, backing them up with a total distortion of the ratings data. KRTH is the #1 station in the market. There is quite adequate statistical data to guarantee that the ratings results are quite accurate at that level.
In this case, what matters is that Oldies comes up with the same inaccurate observations over and over and repeats them four or five times a year. Saying something blatantly untrue on a message board was called "trolling" nearly 40 years ago on The Well; the criteria and the definition are still just as accurate today as back in 1985 or so.
In statistics, outliers are dismissed as "nobody". Tiny, tiny results are inconclusive and not actionable. That is the case here.
Most of us are tired of Oldies doing the same tired act over and over and over and over and over over years and years despite being told clearly and concisely why his personal feelings are both wrong and irrelevant. Yet he reappears over and over with the same garbage.
No, I owe him a warning: stop dragging this subject up over and over. It is getting tedious because, for the benefit of others who are not "insiders" a number of us have to explain, also over and over, why Oldies is blatantly wrong.
And if you go back many more years, you find that every few months ("few" is a purposely vague term. "Few" can mean two or three or five or six or even ten or twelve, depending on what "many" means) you are back with the same thing over and over and over.
As moderator, I am giving you a warning that your constant paeans to 1260 and dismissals of the market's highest rated station, coupled with inaccurate or distorted information is not appropriate.
This is not a public forum. There are standards, and the moderators are here to enforce them.
You've been told that the probable cause for the 1260 change is pandemic-related cost cutting by an unprofitable "hobby" station. Nothing more needed to be said unless it was related to the general subject of Coronavirus caused money-saving moves.
"Sol" is the Spanish language abbreviation or "apodo" for "Solomon". It is correct, and my Spell checker does not find it.
No, "Sol" is the "apodo" or nickname for Salomon. It is totally correct.
I'm told that when Saul had the 540 "flashlight from the High Desert" he tried to get permission to use "KSOL" from the FM in San Francisco. Obviously, he knew that "Sol" is his name in Spanish.
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I'm under the understanding that the owner was born "Solomon" and that is why he or one of his staff tried to get the calls "KSOL" from the FM user of the calls (guess how?) some years ago for the station he built on 540. Of course, I have no verification of that... just one of the market "hearsay and rumor" items. If that is not so, then the nickname is wrong, too.
My consulting engineer in Ecuador had a son named "Salomón" and everyone called him "Sol". Same thing, I was thinking.
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There are many words with multiple meanings. Every "Salomón" I knew in Latin America was nicknamed "Sol" or "Saúl". And where I have lived and worked, there were many Survivors and refugees with that name.
Best case, the biggest mortgage banker in Puerto Rico in the 70's and 80's, Salomón Levy, was always called "Sol". The alternative, "Sal", I have never heard since it means "salt" and I always thought that the biblical significance of salt, as in Sodom and Gomorrah, is a bit of a turn-off.
Remember, too, that what is usual in one Latin nation is not used in others and what means one thing in one of them may be downright offensive in another.
"Bus" in Puerto Rico means "Baby" in Ecuador. "Twenty nations divided by a single language"..
You need to get a better spell checker and a better grip on life outside of you Spanish language worldview.
His name is Saul Levine, clearly a Jewish name and he is almost certainly named after the Saul of the Old Testament and possibly other Sauls in his family. Your Spanish dictionary has not a damn thing to do with it and you are dishonoring a man by repeatedly writing his name incorrectly after you have been told multiple times of the error. Now you owe him an apology too.
With regard to Oldies, you are the moderator of a board not the fact-checking police. Nobody believes this site is a repository for all things factual, and you have been doing your part to demonstrate that just today. What you should be doing is THANKING Oldies for having a love of radio and sharing it with others on this board, which I greatly appreciate. I and most others, couldn't care less if he is right or wrong, and he is definitely not trolling in any sense of the word. Many people with varied opinions makes this site a better place, regardless of whether or not they fit your (and Big A's) worldview. As he said above, all he was doing was sharing and voicing his displeasure regarding a programming decision.
Here are the facts - he doesn't like what KRTH becomes and believes KSURF is a better product. It is not for you to tell him otherwise, regardless of the fact that 99% of the listening public doesn't agree with him as measured by Nielson. They are not "right" and he is not "wrong"; lots of people listen to low powered niche radio stations. They exist for people like him, and it doesn't matter a whit whether the station he likes makes money or shows up in the ratings. They broadcast for people like him, he is using the product and sharing what he likes with the rest of us. if Saul wants to lose money broadcasting to "outliers" like Oldies, that is their business and neither require your permission or approval.
You have made this personal with him and it is very unprofessional.
That's all well and good, but Saul Levine still spells his own name Saul, or at least that's what it says on the business card he handed me when I met him a couple of years ago.
I'd be reprimanded, rightly, by my editors and bosses, if I wrote about someone and spelled their name wrong. ("Wrong," in this case, being "any way that's not the way they spell their own name.")
And just because I write in American English doesn't mean I can turn "Esteban" into "Steve" when I'm writing about them. If they go by "Esteban," I call them "Esteban."
I'd be reprimanded, rightly, by my editors and bosses, if I wrote about someone and spelled their name wrong. ("Wrong," in this case, being "any way that's not the way they spell their own name.")
And just because I write in American English doesn't mean I can turn "Esteban" into "Steve" when I'm writing about them. If they go by "Esteban," I call them "Esteban."
Nobody is asking for your etymology of his name and it matters not what he used to go by or what your engineer thinks. He calls himself "Saul" and you need to as well. Your lack of respect for a fellow radio professional is astounding. Your weak justifications for continually (purposely?) misspelling his name is even more so.
Actually it does. Because when stations don't make money, their owners are more likely to flip them away from that format.
And that's what's happening to 1260. If it inconveniences a few folks, too bad.
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