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If a tower falls in the forest...
Speaking of which, on October 27th, 1560 WFME was granted an STA to operate using their nighttime signal pattern full-time, and with daytime power reduced to 30 kW, due to damage to their antenna system caused by a geological survey company performing a soil boring test -- likely relating to the purchase of the land. So if you've noticed that lately their daytime signal coverage isn't as good as it used to be, that's why.
Family Radio bought the station for 12.95 million, and they sell the tower site for 51 million. Not a bad deal for them.
They might go back to Eagle Rock, where the FM is, after Entercom moves WNSH to its new site.
How long has the 1560 transmitter been at the current site? I know the station goes back to the 1930's, but the site design seems post WW2.
Was able to receive the station here in Texas a number of times during the WQXR years. And I recall reports of it being heard in New Zealand.
Was able to receive the station here in Texas a number of times during the WQXR years. And I recall reports of it being heard in New Zealand.
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Really, do you think so? Why?
Is there enough land there for a multi-tower array?
They protect a good number of adjacent channels daytime, and of course have significant night protection restrictions.
As another poster suggested, a funnel-shaped lobe headed over Manhattan and Long Island and out towards Bermuda would be ideal, but that might take quite a bit of land, even at the shorter wavelength distances at 1560. My guess would be a minimum of around 6 to 8 acres.
Of course, there are new "short stick" antenna technologies, but I am not familiar with their use for directional systems. This is way above my league... so hopefully Scott Fybush can comment on what he thinks might be doable for that station.
I could also see it reducing power "a lot" by moving farther west and doing a narrow lobe towards The City with the equivalent of perhaps 60 to 70 kw in the lobe, but less than 20 kw transmitter output.
It's been a while since I've been up on the mountain, but my recollection is it's pretty small. Just one tower needed for FM.'
Obviously the other AM sites around the area are probably more viable.
And likely more expensive. They might find a diplexable array in the wetlands, where there is no developmental land thus keeping prices down.
Seems to me one or two of those sites have been abandoned. Personally my favorite four tower array is WPAT off the Garden State Parkway in Clifton.
That used to be a beautiful site. When "we" owned it as HBC, the offices were moved out there for a while. I loved the towers with the Top Hats on them. Unfortunately, the building and the site are rather deteriorated not.
It would be possibly a good diplex site as it is farther out than the meadowlands.
There have been some site moves, such as the 710 site (moved twice in recent years, I believe) and a couple of consolidations (WMCA site I believe is multiplexed now but I forget with whom). 1050 of course had to move due to construction in that area, but they simply relocated.
WBBR is in that neighborhood as well.
I felt a disturbance in the force....
Answering a few pieces of this thread:
It's not going to be Eagle Rock. That's an FM/TV site, not an AM site. No land for a DA and ground system, and because it's literally a rock, the ground conductivity is abysmal. You don't want to put an AM station up there.
WFME-FM can't really get any closer to the city. It's partially an issue of adjacent-channel spacing to WQXR, WBLI and WLTW, and even more so the co-channel spacing to the 106.3s in New Jersey.
So what do they do? Without disclosing any confidences... let's just say that if I had $51 million in my pocket, I wouldn't so much be worried about building a new, very expensive DA somewhere, and maybe thinking more about just buying something else that already exists and could be had for a small fraction of that price. But I've already said too much...
Yep, I mentioned it because that was Family Radio's previous location, and Entercom will likely leave it when they move to Lyndhurst (unless it's retained for backup). That's some pretty valuable land in West Orange (although I think they share the site with Channel 68).
In snooping around, I noticed that Radio-Locator has updated their WNSH transmitter location to be in Lyndhurst. I haven't seen any formal announcement of that change yet. We know a CP exists for making the move. The co-ordinates for Wikipedia are still in West Orange.
The West Orange site where 94.7 is located isn't owned by Family. It belongs to American Tower now. I expect it will continue to be an aux for 94.7, and of course it's now used as an aux by other New York FMs, too. (Everyone finally learned after 9/11 that it's vital to have an off-site backup location.)
Channel 68 was at a different tower nearby. That site (which was also the original channel 68 studio location) was later used as a post-9/11 recovery facility by channel 31, and I think is still an aux for them and several others.
Channel 68 was at a different tower nearby. That site (which was also the original channel 68 studio location) was later used as a post-9/11 recovery facility by channel 31, and I think is still an aux for them and several others.
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