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“Clay & Buck” debuts today - but where in Market #13?

TheBigA said:
They announced a long time ago that their noon to midday slot would be occupied by Erick Erickson:

www.ajc.com

Erick Erickson’s WSB radio show is going to be nationally syndicated

Conservative Erick Erickson, a radio host on WSB Radio for the past decade, recently moved to the noon slot after Rush Limbaugh died. He is also an attorney and blogger.
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None of the Cox stations are carrying Travis & Buck.
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crainbebo said:
Also, I don't think KJR-AM cleared Clay Travis's Fox Sports show, which means he is an unknown individual to the Seattle radio dial. Meanwhile, I'm sure Dan Bongino has done interviews with Hannity and Limbaugh in the past, making him more known to the western WA conservative audience.
Listening to Clay and Buck for a few minutes today, they were arguing over words like 'Latinx' being used over 'Latino' as gender-inclusive language under President Biden. Also took a call from an airline pilot who was told that his airline was not allowed to use the words "ladies and gentlemen" in the announcements because of the gender-inclusive movement. I heard some debating between Travis and Sexton, but no yelling amongst callers or each of the hosts. Nothing like Mark Levin. I cannot stand that man. Can he ever spend one 3-hour talkfest NOT going on a tirade about something? Savage did the same thing.
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Levin and his loud, high pitched screech "DONALD TRUMP IS JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF, AND THE ELECTION OF JOE BIDEEN SHOULD BE OVERTHROWN!!"
 
boombox4 said:
Maybe Seattle's conservative radio stations determined that the local conservative audience just isn't amenable to a Clay & Buck. There are three AMs that skew conservative (KTTH, KVI, & KLFE), and the biggest one (KTTH) obviously went with Bongino, who sounds personable at the very least. KTTH obviously must have put some thought into the change.
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One of KTTH's hosts, Todd Herman, served as a guest host of The Rush Limbaugh Show following the death of Rush.
 
crainbebo said:
Listening to Clay and Buck for a few minutes today, they were arguing over words like 'Latinx' being used over 'Latino' as gender-inclusive language under President Biden.
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"Latinx" is a silly made-up word that is unpronounceable. On top of that, it doesn't appears that most Latinos and Latinas care for it, so I don't understand why progressives continue to use it. That said, it would make an interesting topic on talk radio for about 15 seconds before it would be beat to death.
 
TexasTom said:
"Latinx" is a silly made-up word that is unpronounceable. On top of that, it doesn't appears that most Latinos and Latinas care for it, so I don't understand why progressives continue to use it. That said, it would make an interesting topic on talk radio for about 15 seconds before it would be beat to death.
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I'd think right wing talk could have a field day over trying to de-gender everything, even in advertising. "Persons who can become pregnant" instead of "pregnant woman", "persons who were assigned male at birth", etc.
 
Isn't it like a few percent of people at most use the term 'Latinx' anyways? But yet it's being politicized because...racism. I don't deal with any of that stuff. I have acquaintances who are Hispanic and I don't use that word with them anyways.
Marcos_C said:
One of KTTH's hosts, Todd Herman, served as a guest host of The Rush Limbaugh Show following the death of Rush.
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I had him in the running for Rush's replacement, as well as Mark Steyn (his #1 sub host). EIB wanted to go different ways I guess, try to get a younger Republican audience with Clay & Buck. For one thing, Clay is only in his early 40s and I think Buck is somewhere in that age group as well. We're not dealing with a Savage, or a Levin, or even Dori Monson.
 
crainbebo said:
I had him in the running for Rush's replacement, as well as Mark Steyn (his #1 sub host). EIB wanted to go different ways I guess, try to get a younger Republican audience with Clay & Buck.
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Keep in mind that there is no such thing as "EIB." The decision was made by Premiere Network. They had both of these guys under contract, and Clay was becoming more political, which was causing problems with his sports affiliates. I don't see this as a long term solution because Clay doesn't work well with others. He prefers to fly solo. He may get his wish in a year or two.
 
TheBigA said:
Keep in mind that there is no such thing as "EIB." The decision was made by Premiere Network. They had both of these guys under contract, and Clay was becoming more political, which was causing problems with his sports affiliates. I don't see this as a long term solution because Clay doesn't work well with others. He prefers to fly solo. He may get his wish in a year or two.
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When Limbaugh self-syndicated in his earlier years, he used EIB as a brand, even though the company was a separate entity. When they joined with Clear Channel's syndication division, they kept the name for the network.
 
DavidEduardo said:
When Limbaugh self-syndicated in his earlier years, he used EIB as a brand, even though the company was a separate entity. When they joined with Clear Channel's syndication division, they kept the name for the network.
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EIB was never a legal entity. There was never an EIB affiliate manager or EIB sales manager. The previous company was EFM Media Management, which was Ed McLaughlin's company.
 
TexasTom said:
"Latinx" is a silly made-up word that is unpronounceable. On top of that, it doesn't appears that most Latinos and Latinas care for it, so I don't understand why progressives continue to use it. That said, it would make an interesting topic on talk radio for about 15 seconds before it would be beat to death.
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Correct. Nobody in my family likes the term, and asked about "your friends" and "coworkers" who are Hispanic and they said that the general attitude is that it is not well liked.

One of my daughters mentioned that in Spanish it comes out "Latinequis which even adds an additional syllable to the word and is kind of a tongue-twister. Another commented that it seems to be something that Hispanics who don't speak Spanish might like, but she definitely does not.
 
gr8oldies said:
EIB was never a legal entity. There was never an EIB affiliate manager or EIB sales manager. The previous company was EFM Media Management, which was Ed McLaughlin's company.
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That's what I said: it was a brand for promotion. The pre-Clear Channel company had a corporate name as you mention but Rush made up the network name as part of the "talent on loan from God" image building.
 
crainbebo said:
Also, I don't think KJR-AM cleared Clay Travis's Fox Sports show, which means he is an unknown individual to the Seattle radio dial. Meanwhile, I'm sure Dan Bongino has done interviews with Hannity and Limbaugh in the past, making him more known to the western WA conservative audience.
Listening to Clay and Buck for a few minutes today, they were arguing over words like 'Latinx' being used over 'Latino' as gender-inclusive language under President Biden. Also took a call from an airline pilot who was told that his airline was not allowed to use the words "ladies and gentlemen" in the announcements because of the gender-inclusive movement. I heard some debating between Travis and Sexton, but no yelling amongst callers or each of the hosts. Nothing like Mark Levin. I cannot stand that man. Can he ever spend one 3-hour talkfest NOT going on a tirade about something? Savage did the same thing.
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That's what conservative talk is - tirades. Without them, they may as well just play Delilah. Conservative talk audiences live for tirades.
 
crainbebo said:
Isn't it like a few percent of people at most use the term 'Latinx' anyways? But yet it's being politicized because...racism. I don't deal with any of that stuff. I have acquaintances who are Hispanic and I don't use that word with them anyways.

I had him in the running for Rush's replacement, as well as Mark Steyn (his #1 sub host). EIB wanted to go different ways I guess, try to get a younger Republican audience with Clay & Buck. For one thing, Clay is only in his early 40s and I think Buck is somewhere in that age group as well. We're not dealing with a Savage, or a Levin, or even Dori Monson.
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I agree it's racism, homophobia and sexism combined when Latinx is included but that's for census forms anyway or words that certain agencies either on state and federal level for certain benefits or licenses. I don't know how that's done in practice though for now.

But I swear whenever you hear stuff like that it's going to end in right wing talk show hosts accusing the "Pro-Biden/Harris" voters for being a snowflake, wanting safe spaces and triggered and Ex-Republicans and current democrats coming forward accusing Trump directly for doing crazier things than that.

But you gotta please a certain crowd though and have them riled up for the 2022 elections.
 
Politics aside, I still find it amazing that these talk programs have as many listeners as they do. It's consistently the same material being rehashed day after day. Even if you agree with what the hosts are saying, the overarching message never changes. I'd argue that there are YouTube channels/podcasts in the contemporary era that provide similar services and opinions (on either side of the political aisle) without becoming completely stale after a few episodes. I think most experts would make the argument that most talk radio listeners like consistency, and I can certainly see why. With that being said, I would also argue that the traditional Rush Limbaugh presentation isn't going to gain a tremendous amount support from listeners under the age of 40 as time goes by. Perhaps Clay & Buck will be different and try to keep the program a little more fresh. Many of the larger political podcasts (both liberal and conservative) discuss a wide range of topics outside of what you would expect to hear on KVI.
 
TexasTom said:
"Latinx" is a silly made-up word that is unpronounceable. On top of that, it doesn't appears that most Latinos and Latinas care for it, so I don't understand why progressives continue to use it. That said, it would make an interesting topic on talk radio for about 15 seconds before it would be beat to death.
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To some extent all words are "made up", but "latinx" is so forced and cringy it makes me immediately not take the point or person using it seriously. The term seems like a satirical joke and the woke elites who are constantly pushing it so hard aren't in on the gag.

I live in Texas and have for my entire life. I am not hispanic, but obviously interact with many hispanic people every week through friends/work/church/etc. and I have never heard "latinx" used in real life. They would self-identify as "latino" or "hispanic" or in many cases "Mexican" (most hispanic immigrants in this region are from Mexico). I do see the word in written form often in the New York Times and Washington Post and have heard it regularly on NPR as well. Take that for what it is worth.
 
RadioPatrol said:
I agree it's racism, homophobia and sexism combined when Latinx is included but that's for census forms anyway or words that certain agencies either on state and federal level for certain benefits or licenses. I don't know how that's done in practice though for now.
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The Census Bureau separates "Latin, Hispanic" from "race" as the term involves culture, ethnicity and a language and not skin tone.

The Census question allows for those who don't self-define as either of those terms to indicated if they are of certain heritages like Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, etc. It even had a blank to fill in.

The creation of the "Hispanic" term was brought on to comply at the government level with equality legislation, mostly from the 70's, that required equal opportunity. There was no term in use for the Census before 1980, and so they borrowed an "antique" term, meaning "From Hispania", to put a label on the group. "Latin" covered more than Spanish hertitage persons, and so did Latino which include Brazilians, for example. So they gave us Hispanic.
 
Ryan Williams said:
Look, that's fair and I hesitate to use that label (you can search my post history), but in this case it fits with respect to the very left-of-center northeast media entities where I primarily encounter the term being pushed.
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Just because someone uses a term doesn't mean they're pushing it. Some people may bend over backwards to be polite and respectful. Personally I find that preferable than the opposite.
 
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