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Franken FM

I've heard Cocola is going to put a Franken FM on the air on Ch 6 TV using 87.75 (old analog TV carrier frequency) to have an "FM" that can be tuned in to many radios that go a few channels below 88.1. Apparently even though the FCC has forbid any analog TV anymore, they have issued a few STAs.
 
I've heard Cocola is going to put a Franken FM on the air on Ch 6 TV using 87.75 (old analog TV carrier frequency) to have an "FM" that can be tuned in to many radios that go a few channels below 88.1. Apparently even though the FCC has forbid any analog TV anymore, they have issued a few STAs.
Channel 6 and 88.1 (KFCF) in the same market? I thought you get one or the other, but not both in the same area. How could this be allowed?
 
What or who is "Cocola"?
Among Puerto Ricans, Cocolo or cocola can mean a Black person or followers of salsa music, "The word al cocolo also became popular in Puerto Rico, where it was similarly used to refer to the more African influenced segments in that country's population. In 1937, it only meant Black in Puerto Rico, however, the term cocolo would later become a slang term describing the subculture which followed Afro-Latino music, especially salsa as opposed to rock music (those were called rockeros)."
 
Among Puerto Ricans, Cocolo or cocola can mean a Black person or followers of salsa music, "The word al cocolo also became popular in Puerto Rico, where it was similarly used to refer to the more African influenced segments in that country's population. In 1937, it only meant Black in Puerto Rico, however, the term cocolo would later become a slang term describing the subculture which followed Afro-Latino music, especially salsa as opposed to rock music (those were called rockeros)."
Interesting, but what does it mean in the context of this alleged FM operation in California? Google turns up nothing for "Cocola" but a bakery near San Francisco, a few people with that for a surname, and items in Spanish (probably about the Puerto Ricans you describe). Google asked if I meant "Coca-Cola," but why would the Atlanta-based corporation be interested in setting up a Franken-FM anywhere?
 
Interesting, but what does it mean in the context of this alleged FM operation in California? Google turns up nothing for "Cocola" but a bakery near San Francisco, a few people with that for a surname, and items in Spanish (probably about the Puerto Ricans you describe). Google asked if I meant "Coca-Cola," but why would the Atlanta-based corporation be interested in setting up a Franken-FM anywhere?
I'm in the Fresno area- I have no connections at all in the area's broadcasting 'community'- I wouldn't know Gary Cacola if he walked in my front door. I'd be asking WhoTF are you? I do know he owns a boatload of broadcast entities. Mostly here in Central Valley of CA, but also some clusters in other areas. Mostly LPTVs.
 
Sure hope not! I may have to adjust my yardcasting operation. :ROFLMAO:
Seriously, I think if this was at all possible he would have all ready done it, right?
 
Cocola Broadcasting has a license for TV6 low power TV in Visalia. I imagine that's what they will be using. I heard that they would be putting tones/audio on the air this Thursday.
 
Cocola Broadcasting has a license for TV6 low power TV in Visalia. I imagine that's what they will be using. I heard that they would be putting tones/audio on the air this Thursday.
I thought the FCC did away with licensing any analog LPTV. I thought not only would they not license any more analog TVs but also that any still existingTVs were supposed to have already ended analog and converted to digital. What's the real deal?
 
Cocola Broadcasting has a license for TV6 low power TV in Visalia. I imagine that's what they will be using. I heard that they would be putting tones/audio on the air this Thursday.
I'm very surprised that even licensing in Visalia would be allowed- without looking at spacing requirements- I doubt a class A FM could be in Visalia- Blue Ridge maybe?
 
I should have written:
The only type of TV license suitable for this purpose is for a (possibly Low Power) ATSC 3.0 DTV signal + (Franken) FM signal.


Kirk Bayne
 
I see that KZNO-LD Big Bear (really Los Angeles) was granted a license to use ATSC 3.0 but the application does not say anything about 87.75 MHz analog carrier. I see the ATSC carrier very low and a strong analog carrier on 87.75 MHz.


KZNO-LD (Facility ID 63149), Big Bear Lake, CA Modification of License Notice of ATSC 3.0 Operations
Venture Technologies Group, LLC (“Licensee”), licensee of LPTV station KZNO-LD, Big Bear Lake, CA (FID 63149) (the “Station”), hereby notifies the Commission that the Station has completed construction of the technical facilities specified in the minor modification construction permit (File No. 131428) (the “CP”) and commenced operations on July 13, 2021, using an ATSC 3.0 signal.

The Station is in compliance with the ATSC 3.0 rules for digital LPTV stations. The Station has transitioned directly to ATSC 3.0 without simulcasting as permitted under Section 74.782(c) of the Commission’s Rules, 47 C.F.R. § 74.782(c).

The Licensee certifies pursuant to Section 74.782(h) of the Commission’s Rules, 47 C.F.R. §74.782(h), that the Station provided public notice of its transition to ATSC 3.0 for 30 days as required. The Licensee further certifies that no notice to MVPDs was required under Section74.782(i) of the Commission’s Rules, 47 C.F.R. § 74.782(i).
 
KZNO-LD has a very strong FM signal that can be heard throughout Southern California, from LA, east to Palm Springs and south to the San Diego area. They run in mono, and at 87.7, with not much signal competition, they cover better than most of the LA stations.
 
Gawd, I hope Gary doesn't let "Cris Edwards" anywhere near this thing. Are these Franken FMs allowed to be commercial? Maybe his Biola KJOI LPFM will be on it. (?)
 
(since I wrote this, I found out that Franken FMs do use the FM stereo stereo coding)

The TV license is for a Low Power ATSC 3.0 DTV signal + an FM signal (all in a 6MHz channel).
(since I wrote this, I found out that Franken FMs do use the FM stereo stereo coding)

The TV license is for a Low Power ATSC 3.0 DTV signal + an FM signal (all in a 6MHz channel).


Kirk Bayne
Are they using 87.7 or 87.75 the sound carrier for VHF 6?, There a station in Seattle that uses 87.7, So if it's 87.7 it would have the proper distance to 88.1 the 2nd adjacent from Meadow Lakes to Bear Mt. What Class is it ? how much power ? btw my stereo goes down to 87.7 but not 87.75 not sure the stereo part would sound right.
 
I know very little about this issue, mostly only what I read here in RD (I sometimes repost the info in my Usenet Newsgroup alt.video.digital-tv)

Once, when NBC ran the movie Earthquake (late 1970s or early 1980s), I set up a table radio (tuned to ~87.7, the audio from WOC TV ch 6) w/earphone out connected to my home stereo (smaller Advent speakers) and listened for the rumble (which was transmitted) although I was too far from the ch 6 transmitter for reliable reception w/built in radio antenna indoors (TV was connected to an outside antenna on a mast).


Kirk Bayne
 
Gary Cocola's has a Full Power TV station KMSG 43 on Bear Mt., has several sub Channels including Classic TV shows channels like ME-TV ,ANT TV, COSI, etc.etc and reviving 53.1, My 53 what used to be KAIL, before the owners sold 7.1 to a Christian Broadcaster, and Gary has several other LPTV in the valley, and other areas.

As far as Channel 6, I always remember listening to the sound from KSBY NBC 6 from SLO when driving to the Coast, but Franken FM should use 87.7 instead of 87.75 only makes sense, since all FM stereos got to 87.7, and The FCC should allow 87.9 were it can be used , Why not add to the FM, more stations in a already crowded dial.
 
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