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KNX onto … 97.1??

michael hagerty said:
Right now, if you Google “KNX-FM”, 11 results show up on the first page. Seven of them, including the top result, are for the two tribute streamers.
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A couple of quick thoughts. First Google results are heavily customized on some queries based on your own interest, history, location, etc. So that exact makeup of results might be different for different users.

Secondly, I would imagine that Audacy has SEO (search engine optimization) people on staff or at least decent consultants that know how to get more Google Juice than amateur-hour station tribute sites (no disrespect intended). The real KNX-FM in the internet era just began, so expect the Audacy station to move up quickly and overwhelm the others, with or without any C&Ds.
 
How about the streamers changing the K To a J like they did with the Malibu stream of JFRC. So they become JKNX-FM They could even call it Jinx-FM. LOL LOL Just a thought....
 
When do you think KNX will drop KRTH-HD2? It adds a lot of baggage to the ID and I can think of no reason to keep it. If it were up to me, I'd put up a continuous loop, directing people to 97.1!
 
Chances are odyssey is not going to mess with the streamer. The idea that odyssey is going to change their calls to let other people have the KNX calls are beyond ridiculous
 
semoochie said:
When do you think KNX will drop KRTH-HD2? It adds a lot of baggage to the ID and I can think of no reason to keep it. If it were up to me, I'd put up a continuous loop, directing people to 97.1!
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It will probably be unceremoniously dropped after a while.

gr8oldies said:
Chances are odyssey is not going to mess with the streamer. The idea that odyssey is going to change their calls to let other people have the KNX calls are beyond ridiculous
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He meant the other way around, not Audacy changing KNX's calls.

With that said, I'm not sure how litigious Audacy feels about protecting their intellectual property over webstreams that frankly appeals to not many people in LA. Thus far, CBS Radio/Entercom/Audacy haven't seemed to have been bothered with either stream.
 
sdwulfdawg said:
Big business thought they would exploit the broadcasting industry to be their golden goose. In the process, they have killed it all by themselves. That's why a lot of folks listen to their favorite podcast or Spotify. They drove the listeners away allllllll by themselves. Now they are like they are in a sinking rowboat desperately trying to plug the leaks with a finger.
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You're talking about two very different things. Radio is a mass medium. Always has been. Radio programming today isn't much different from what it was 60 years ago.

Spotify and podcasts are individual services. When people want to listen to specific songs or artists, they either buy those songs or make their own playlist. Streaming on Spotify has replaced buying records. The entire record retail business has disappeared, replaced by Spotify and Pandora.
 
Just a listener, but it's nice to have the KNX-FM calls back on the dial. Back when, KNX AM and FM were both fine operations, and when you flipped from one to the other, the same high quality came across in either format. So, wouldn't it be great to have an updated mellow sound associated with the KNX calls just a click away—on KNX-FM HD2?

Also, rather than threaten the tribute sites, Audacy might "ask" them to mention the return of news on KNX-FM? Everybody wins.
 
gr8oldies said:
Was CBS some kind of Mom and Pop business?
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Your reply post is such a non sequitur. My comment is related that we are seeing the beginning of the last throes of the radio business. The transmitters might still be transmitting a signal, but the listeners have moved on to other media.
 
sdwulfdawg said:
And that's the problem. Big business thought they would exploit the broadcasting industry to be their golden goose.
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Radio in major markets has always been a "big business" because the number of stations is limited by the FCC and the laws of physics.

Back in the day of the Red, Blue and CBS webs, legislators in Washington feared letting owners have more than a few stations as they were concerned that any more would make them more influential than even the largest newspapers. This was all about politics and entrenched senators.

Until the mid-90's, however, broadcasters who did not own a network could only expand to 7 stations of a kind. That limited the ability of them to get financing because they were, to banks and lenders, "small" and not geographically isolated from downturns in business trends.

It was not until the aftermath of Docket 80-90 when half of all stations were not profitable (or, in the case of small owner-operators), nothing more than a guaranteed lifetime employment situation.
sdwulfdawg said:
In the process, they have killed it all by themselves. That's why a lot of folks listen to their favorite podcast or Spotify. They drove the listeners away allllllll by themselves. Now they are like they are in a sinking rowboat desperately trying to plug the leaks with a finger.
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If there is an End of Life warning for radio, it has nothing to do with the owners. AM and FM radio are "one to many" services while many people want customized one-to-one personalized services. And commercial AM and FM depend on advertising, something many consumers will pay to avoid.
 
sdwulfdawg said:
Your reply post is such a non sequitur. My comment is related that we are seeing the beginning of the last throes of the radio business. The transmitters might still be transmitting a signal, but the listeners have moved on to other media.
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Yet nearly 90% of all adults use radio.

The transformation from AM and FM to other distribution channels is slow, and many broadcasters are looking for profitable new media alternatives.

Right now, the problem is that new media has such high music licensing fees that it is impossible to make a profit. So, while many may pay for audio services, those in lower income groups will be left behind with declining free services and costly paid ones.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Yet nearly 90% of all adults use radio.

The transformation from AM and FM to other distribution channels is slow, and many broadcasters are looking for profitable new media alternatives.

Right now, the problem is that new media has such high music licensing fees that it is impossible to make a profit. So, while many may pay for audio services, those in lower income groups will be left behind with declining free services and costly paid ones.
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I find it odd that 90 percent of adults still listen to radio. In my office, I polled several people and almost no one listened to regular terrestrial radio. I asked them after one of my coworkers wondered why I had a little CCrane in my backpack.

. Go to a Best Buy and you have to search hard to find one. I had to ask a clerk who said…. “Radio? Let me think, I think we moved them”.

It turned out they were in a small section on the bottom shelf and they only had 2 to 3 different models.
 
TheBigA said:
You're looking in the wrong store. People listen in their car.
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Yet, still, looking at diary markets (PPM does not segregate "in car" separately) we see that over half of all terrestrial radio listening is not in the car. We have to remember that a physical radio is not required to listen to AM and FM stations as many have streams that can count as part of the station's total listening.
 
Michael Rivers Kramer said:
I find it odd that 90 percent of adults still listen to radio. In my office, I polled several people and almost no one listened to regular terrestrial radio.
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That is a tiny sample size. Between diaries and meters, we are talking about hundreds of thousands of samples for radio ratings.
 
DavidEduardo said:
We have to remember that a physical radio is not required to listen to AM and FM stations as many have streams that can count as part of the station's total listening.
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In fact here's a new study that confirms the use of smart speakers for listening to AM & FM:

www.insideradio.com

Radio Has the Ear of Younger Adults Who Are Smart Speaker Owners.

Katz Digital reports smart speaker ownership in the home increased 53% from 2019 to 2021. Slightly more (41%) of smart speaker owners said they used their device to stream AM/FM
www.insideradio.com www.insideradio.com
 
Michael Rivers Kramer said:
Go to a Best Buy and you have to search hard to find one. I had to ask a clerk who said…. “Radio? Let me think, I think we moved them”.
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Funny...I was Christmas shopping in a Best Buy today, and I saw a lot of AM/FM radios. One section had a large display of boom boxes, another had a number of clock radios, and then I saw some home receivers. I wasn't aware that boom boxes are still being made. But in fact they are, and there's a nice selection at Best Buy. Never had to ask anyone because they were out in plain site.
 
Michael Rivers Kramer said:
I find it odd that 90 percent of adults still listen to radio. In my office, I polled several people and almost no one listened to regular terrestrial radio.
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That is an amazingly small sample compared to the hundreds of thousands sampled by Nielsen for radio surveys.
 
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