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10 yrs later, another set of firings at KGO

Interesting that "mostly live and local" works well for KFI in Los Angeles, but not KGO in San Francisco. Similar big signals, but very different ratings. Maybe the live/local need in SF is already satisfied by KQED & KCBS.
KGO was live an local in its peak days in the 80's and 90's. They stuck with the same generation of thinking and presentation style, while KFI, with a newer period of dominance has been able to stay fresher by doing things like eliminating Dr Laura and then Rush and building local franchises. KGO just aged out and disintegrated, as the new owners handled a possible transition just horribly.
 
That brings up a difference between NPR and commercial radio, in that NPR seems to allow multiple stations in a market to air their programming (like KPCC and KCRW). While only one commercial station in a market would have the exclusive rights for syndicated talk and news. Maybe NPR thinks the more, the merrier, no matter if takes audience and donations away from another member station.
In the case of the Bay Area KQED-FM is NPR News/Talk affiliate that does well in the Bay Area overall, while KALW-FM is NPR affiliate thats mainly San Francisco City Proper only. In Sacramento area Its Capital Public Radio and in some cases the KQED Translator at 89.3FM.

KQED-FM is 100kw, KALW-FM is 1.9 kw,

KXJZ is 50kw.

However KXJZ overall is within the top 10 spots in the Sacramento Radio Market and is more meant for Sacramento, Yolo and parts of Solano County which is urban/suburban in the Sacramento Valley. In contrast Iheart Owned KFBK-AM and KFBK-FM are meant for El Dorado, Placer, Sutter and Yuba Counties Suburban/Rural.
 
KGO was live an local in its peak days in the 80's and 90's. They stuck with the same generation of thinking and presentation style, while KFI, with a newer period of dominance has been able to stay fresher by doing things like eliminating Dr Laura and then Rush and building local franchises. KGO just aged out and disintegrated, as the new owners handled a possible transition just horribly.
KFI’s aggressive presentation dates back to Cox ownership and stayed in place when Clear Channel took over. Even in the mid-2000s, they weren’t hesitant to make substantial moves like moving Phil Hendrie to 570 in 2005 or picking up Tim Conway Jr. after KLSX folded. Booting Rush onto 1150 was the best move they could have ever made, when they made it. Considering the stark limitations the format has, KFI is the most forward-thinking station in the format, much moreso than WLW.

There is no excuse for Jack Swanson or Mickey Luckoff to not make KGO more aggressive or make substantial lineup changes to freshen up the sound and get younger listeners back in 1997, let alone in 2007 when Citadel took over. How many legendary stations have fallen apart over the years due to complacency alone?
 
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How many legendary stations have fallen apart over the years due to complacency alone?

Pretty much the entire ABC radio chain fell into complacency starting in around 2004 when it became obvious that radio was not a priority at Disney. What you saw at KGO was also happening at other ABC-owned stations.

Citadel and later Cumulus thought they were buying the old ABC, and in a way they were. But it became a boat anchor for both companies that ultimately led to two bankruptcies.
 
But KGO was a market leading station well into the 2000's. It was declining as the first decade progressed, but the mortal blow was the PPM which showed that there was no "phantom cume". It collapsed once the PPM began.

KABC is a 5 kw station that had seen the market outgrow it over 30 years ago. KFI was there at the right time with 50 kw on a better frequency with a fresh approach to the format and a more contemporary "attitude". Better signal, better programming, vastly better news department. KABC collapsed and then made stupid moves like trying to make Ronn Owens work in LA...

They have not figured out that KFI works because it is almost entirely live and local. KABC tries to make the Cumulus/Westwood product fit... and it does not work.

KABC has been for sale for a decade. But what has been offered is less than what it is worth to clear the Westwood product, so they keep it. Probably the same goes for KGO... although KGO likely gets combo buys from the cluster, particularly KNBR, and from pairing with KSFO. KABC is a stand-alone and has not packages to sell.
 
How did certain FM's get granted that extra 10kw beyond the 100 kw FCC allowed maximum signal strength for FM?
Before FM was further regulated (talking about over 60 years ago), there were much higher power authorizations. A few of those still exist.

WBCT Grand Rapids 320 kw
WMC Memphis 300 kw
WSRW Grand Rapids 265 kw
WSLQ Roanoke 200 kw
WRVQ Richmond 200 kw
WOMC Detroit 190 kw
WNCI Columbus 175 kw
WIPR San Juan 125 kw
KIOI San Francisco 125 kw
KZZO Sacramento 110 kw
KGOR Omaha 115 kw
WTSSS Buffalo 110 kw
WDCX Buffalo 110 kw
KQED San Francisco 110 kw
KPFK Los Angeles 110 kw
WILL Urbana 105 kw
KRUZ Santa Barbara 105 kw
KHII Des Moines 105 kw
 
David, I believe a particular station in Kalamazoo, MI or thereabouts, at one time, claimed to be the country's most powerful FM station with 470 kW ERP , but later downgraded to normal class B 50 kW at 500 ft. Could it be one of the Grand Rapids stations on your list?
 
That 320 kw WBCT is the market leader in Grand Rapids ( A medium size market), so Iheart can probably still afford to pay the huge power bill every month. Looking at their coverage map, they do cover the majority of Michigan.
 
That 320 kw WBCT is the market leader in Grand Rapids ( A medium size market), so Iheart can probably still afford to pay the huge power bill every month. Looking at their coverage map, they do cover the majority of Michigan.
They have an indoors-usable signal that covers Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo and Battle Creek but does not make it to Lansing or even Muskegon. (65 dbu)

Its a station that bills $4 million a year, so lets say they have a pair of 40 kw transmitters and consume a bit over 100 kw an hour. Commercial power there is about $0.12 a kwh, so a power bill of around $8 thousand to $10 thousand a month would be the higher end... on billings of over $350,000 a month.
 
It is the top biller in that market (News/talker WOOD AM/FM might be just below $4 million and is certainly at or above $3 million).

20 years ago, WBCT was billing around $7 million annually! For a market outside the top 50!

It usually pulls 7 to 9 shares in both GR and Kalamazoo, about 3 shares in both BC and Muskegon (neither of which is particularly meaningful for ad sales; iHM owns a country station based in Muskegon anyway), and about 2 shares in Lansing.

Those 320 kW used to deliver a good in-car signal a good 80 miles north of the TX site effortlessly until a drop-in co-channel Class A in NW Michigan (lower peninsula) took to the airwaves. The signal would usually fade quickly once reaching mile 90. Penetration to the southeast always seemed weakest; actual strength in Battle Creek is nowhere near city grade. My guess is tower structure reflection plus terrain both cause attenuation in that azimuth. Not much money is to be had there in any event.
 
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Before FM was further regulated (talking about over 60 years ago), there were much higher power authorizations. A few of those still exist.

WBCT Grand Rapids 320 kw
WMC Memphis 300 kw
WSRW Grand Rapids 265 kw
WSLQ Roanoke 200 kw
WRVQ Richmond 200 kw
WOMC Detroit 190 kw
WNCI Columbus 175 kw
WIPR San Juan 125 kw
KIOI San Francisco 125 kw
KZZO Sacramento 110 kw
KGOR Omaha 115 kw
WTSSS Buffalo 110 kw
WDCX Buffalo 110 kw
KQED San Francisco 110 kw
KPFK Los Angeles 110 kw
WILL Urbana 105 kw
KRUZ Santa Barbara 105 kw
KHII Des Moines 105 kw
Grand Rapids is quite blessed power-wise, as it has two other superpower grandfathered stations, 105.7 WSRW-FM at 265,000 watts, which you listed, as well as 104.1 WVGR at 96,000 watts. WVGR is interesting as it is a public radio "grandfathered superpower" Class B, FM station, licensed to the University of Michigan. For almost 40 years, WVGR blanketed West Michigan with a powerful 108,000-watt signal from an arm on a local TV tower (WOOD-TV), until it needed WVGR's space for an HD transmitter, WVGR was forced to cut its power to 20,000 watts until it moved to its own tower in 2006 and boosted its power to its present 96,000 watts, largely restoring its original coverage area. Without its grandfathered superpower status, the maximum power that it could be granted today, would be 23,500 watts ERP.
 
However KXJZ overall is within the top 10 spots in the Sacramento Radio Market and is more meant for Sacramento, Yolo and parts of Solano County which is urban/suburban in the Sacramento Valley. In contrast Iheart Owned KFBK-AM and KFBK-FM are meant for El Dorado, Placer, Sutter and Yuba Counties Suburban/Rural.
Having spent six years at KFBK and coming up on two at KXJZ, I have to say that's not right.

Those may be where a chunk of core listeners for the stations live currently, but KFBK throws a solid signal (AM, FM or both in some instances) into the urban/surburban areas.

KXJZ's Sacramento signal overlaps its Tahoe/Reno signal (KKTO), and its Stockton/Modesto (KUOP) signal to provide true regional coverage of the Southern Sacramento Valley, the Northern San Joaquin Valley and the Sierra. And then there's KQNC in Quincy, which doesn't overlap, but the gap between it and the KKTO coverage area is small and sparsely populated.

Neither 'BK nor we are "meant for" a particular part of our coverage areas.
 
Having spent six years at KFBK and coming up on two at KXJZ, I have to say that's not right.

Those may be where a chunk of core listeners for the stations live currently, but KFBK throws a solid signal (AM, FM or both in some instances) into the urban/surburban areas.

KXJZ's Sacramento signal overlaps its Tahoe/Reno signal (KKTO), and its Stockton/Modesto (KUOP) signal to provide true regional coverage of the Southern Sacramento Valley, the Northern San Joaquin Valley and the Sierra. And then there's KQNC in Quincy, which doesn't overlap, but the gap between it and the KKTO coverage area is small and sparsely populated.

Neither 'BK nor we are "meant for" a particular part of our coverage areas.
Good Point too.
 
Having spent six years at KFBK and coming up on two at KXJZ, I have to say that's not right.

Those may be where a chunk of core listeners for the stations live currently, but KFBK throws a solid signal (AM, FM or both in some instances) into the urban/surburban areas.

KXJZ's Sacramento signal overlaps its Tahoe/Reno signal (KKTO), and its Stockton/Modesto (KUOP) signal to provide true regional coverage of the Southern Sacramento Valley, the Northern San Joaquin Valley and the Sierra. And then there's KQNC in Quincy, which doesn't overlap, but the gap between it and the KKTO coverage area is small and sparsely populated.

Neither 'BK nor we are "meant for" a particular part of our coverage areas.
So therefore what is it meant for? Besides to make i heart media a bunch of money and to inform the public with solid news and information? Which is precisely what it does do very well.
 
So therefore what is it meant for? Besides to make i heart media a bunch of money and to inform the public with solid news and information? Which is precisely what it does do very well.
I think both stations would be happy to have as many people as possible within range of their signal listening. My issue was RadioPatrol’s suggestion that KFBK was somehow intended to serve suburban and rural areas rather than urban and that KXJZ was intended to serve urban rather than suburban and rural.

The only “meant to” is in the FCC’s Communications Act of 1934, which says all stations are licensed to serve in the “ “public interest, convenience and necessity.”
 
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