Super Bowl LVI Halftime Show Lineup Announced (2022)

[TheBigA]

NBC has released the ratings for just the halftime show, and from what they say, more people watched the halftime show than the actual game:

MSN

NBC says the Super Bowl LVI Halftime Show averaged 103.4 million viewers from 8:15-8:30 p.m. ET, up over last year (96.7 million from 8:30-8:45 p.m. ET).

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

It is often a concert that incidentally happens to be surrounded by a football game.

 

[landtuna]

That certainly points out the tendency to think that anything but our favorite music is, thus, bad music.

I can't stand more than one Sinatra or Benny Goodman tunes at a time... they just do nothing for me and are, thus, annoying. But they are not bad... just like coriander in food there are things in music that are unappealing. But that does not make them junk.

If you think that then you missed my message. I dislike Sinatra intensely but I generally like Standards. I dislike opera but do agree it is a valid music form. I don't agree that Hip-Hop/Rap is a valid music genre and the culture/lifestyle it promotes is a disgrace and in many cases outright dangerous to its audience and performers.

 

[landtuna]

Maybe you prefer Carrie Underwood boasting about destroying property and murdering people, provided she's not part of Antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement? Carrie is a true good Christian indeed, opposition to masks and all.

I do not follow Carrie Underwood nor any performers personally. I listen to their music and base their likeability upon that and that alone.

 

[landtuna]

Are you still running the linen service for the KKK?

Super Bowl halftime shows are designed as spectacle. This years performance was fine even if one doesn't like those artists. It was far superior to the Janet Jackson--Timberlake debacle. There is no act that will please everyone when the audience is over 100 million people...

You are way off base with that KKK remark.

By definition, if a significant number of viewers did not like the halftime (I really hesitate to call the performers "artists") it is not a "fine" performance. Unlike a stage show or movie it is impossible to accurately count likes/dislikes. It is much easier for the promoters to bleet how much everyone loved the show.

And, regarding the "100 million" people audience for the halftime show.....you have no idea how many people were watching. You know only how many receivers were tuned in. In my personal experience the halftime of any football game, Super Bowl included, big portions of the audience repair to their respective patios to smoke, get some food or play a fast game of touch football. The remaining audience is virtually all women. It is in advertising's best interest to magnify everything about the event and that is exactly what they do.

 

[landtuna]

I thought that was Whitney Houston up there.

They are both shriekers so it would be hard to tell.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

I don't agree that Hip-Hop/Rap is a valid music genre and the culture/lifestyle it promotes is a disgrace and in many cases outright dangerous to its audience and performers.

So let’s talk culture. Would that be Snoop, who works with Habitat for Humanity? And Shriner’s
Hospital. Oh and the youth football league he founded. That culture? Is that ok with you?

Or perhaps the endowment Dr. Dre funded at USC. Or the album royalties he donated towards bringing a performing arts center to Compton. Or perhaps the donations to help provide food and medical supplies during the pandemic.

Or maybe Mary J. Blige’s contributions to Save the Music, the AIDS Foundation, Stand Up to Cancer and the Trevor Project, among others?

Or the Marshall Mathers Foundation? Or is helping disadvantaged and at-risk kids not to your liking?

Culture? You want to talk culture? There’s your culture.

So what’s your next racist bit of nonsense?

 

[CTListener]

Nielsen reports over 101 million people watched the Super Bowl:

Super Bowl has 101.1 million TV viewers, up from 2021

The Nielsen company estimates that 101.1 million people watched the Los Angeles Rams win the Super Bowl on NBC and Telemundo

abcnews.go.com

Again showing that the NFL is unique in American sports in not needing high profile teams or players in order to attract viewers to its championship game. The expansion of legal gambling across the country couldn't have hurt either, nor could the easing of restrictions on large gatherings, especially in bars, in numerous states since the 2021 game. The game was close throughout, with quite a few talking points and a suspenseful ending.

 

[CTListener]

Besides, rap isn't as filled with reality-show stars to an extent that country music sadly is.

Several country artists who've been on reality shows (singing competitions, that is) have gone on to become widely acclaimed artists. They tend not to over-emote the way the pop and r&b acts that appear on those shows do, and Nashville is full of experienced songwriters whose material they can use or with whom they can collaborate. Scotty McCreery, Miranda Lambert, Kasey Musgraves, Chris Young -- they all got their start on the contest shows and put out songs that don't necessarily fit the tired "bro country" stereotypes.

 

[CTListener]

Meanwhile, Jason Aldean wore blackface and bragged about maskless crowds in the midst of the pandemic.

Also, Carrie Underwood's husband supports Canada's "freedom convoy".

And Morgan Wallen...enough said.

What does any of that have to do with their music -- especially Underwood, which is nothing but guilt by association on your part? Many of my favorite soul and rock/pop singers of the past were horrible human beings or had political/social views I didn't agree with, but I would no sooner "cancel" Wilson Pickett or Charlie Daniels than I would switch the classical station when something by Wagner, the notorious anti-Semite, came on. Music renders all that other crap inconsequential. If I were into hip-hop, I'd certainly ignore some acts' street-thug past; I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't.

 

[victorres43]

What does any of that have to do with their music -- especially Underwood, which is nothing but guilt by association on your part? Many of my favorite soul and rock/pop singers of the past were horrible human beings or had political/social views I didn't agree with, but I would no sooner "cancel" Wilson Pickett or Charlie Daniels than I would switch the classical station when something by Wagner, the notorious anti-Semite, came on. Music renders all that other crap inconsequential. If I were into hip-hop, I'd certainly ignore some acts' street-thug past; I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't.

The difference though is that the songs of Aldean, Underwood, and Wallen are not good enough to overshadow their problematic personalities. And a lot of the younger audience do not want to financially support someone with pro-Trump leanings; there are some country music artists who may lean liberal, but not them. As for supporting past problematic figures, people may not feel as guilty since Wagner is not alive to see one euro.

Maybe you prefer Carrie Underwood boasting about destroying property and murdering people, provided she's not part of Antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement? Carrie is a true good Christian indeed, opposition to masks and all.

And the reason why I brought this up is that Carrie Underwood is viewed as a clean-cut Christian girl despite promoting negative behavior in her music. Certainly, conservative listeners view Carrie Underwood as more wholesome than Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys, or Beyoncé.

 

[CTListener]

The difference though is that the songs of Aldean, Underwood, and Wallen are not good enough to overshadow their problematic personalities. And a lot of the younger audience do not want to financially support someone with pro-Trump leanings; there are some country music artists who may lean liberal, but not them.

I ... don't ... give ... a ... crap. Wallen is a big talent, love most of his songs. Aldean is hit-or-miss with me, ditto Underwood. I hear a song, I decide whether I like it or not instantly, whether I know who the artist is or not. I often hear gold titles from the years I wasn't listening to much country radio (2005-2015, primarily) in the car and immediately look up the lyrics when I get home, Sometimes I'm surprised to find the song is by Underwood or Aldean and that's perfectly OK. And the tiny amount these artists receive from my listening or even my purchase of their music causes me to lose no sleep at all.

 

[tbolt909]

You are way off base with that KKK remark.

By definition, if a significant number of viewers did not like the halftime (I really hesitate to call the performers "artists") it is not a "fine" performance. Unlike a stage show or movie it is impossible to accurately count likes/dislikes. It is much easier for the promoters to bleet how much everyone loved the show.

And, regarding the "100 million" people audience for the halftime show.....you have no idea how many people were watching. You know only how many receivers were tuned in. In my personal experience the halftime of any football game, Super Bowl included, big portions of the audience repair to their respective patios to smoke, get some food or play a fast game of touch football. The remaining audience is virtually all women. It is in advertising's best interest to magnify everything about the event and that is exactly what they do.

You are the one who asked "How many Urban artists got murdered last week". What are you trying to say?

We get it. You don't like the hip hop genre or probably black people in general. The ratings were 100 million viewers. I have no idea how many liked the halftime show. It really makes no difference...

 

[victorres43]

You are the one who asked "How many Urban artists got murdered last week". What are you trying to say?

We get it. You don't like the hip hop genre or probably black people in general. The ratings were 100 million viewers. I have no idea how many liked the halftime show. It really makes no difference...

Sure, it's only about the music, just like Disco Demolition Night.

 

[landtuna]

You are the one who asked "How many Urban artists got murdered last week". What are you trying to say?

Look at all the most common music genres over the past three decades. Count the number of performers of each genre who died by murder. Hip-hop/Rap leads by a wide margin and one of the base causes is the lifestyle and culture the music espouses. It is no accident.

We get it. You don't like the hip hop genre or probably black people in general. The ratings were 100 million viewers. I have no idea how many liked the halftime show. It really makes no difference...

I dislike opera but I don't hate Italians. I like mariachi but don't particularly like the Mexican culture. You can like or dislike one facet of a culture without buying into the whole thing. I find it deplorable and tragic that Hip-hop/Rap promote all manner of misbehavior, self-destroying life activities and idol worship and is the answer to their issues with life in general; particularly when the most affected ethnic group has so many other life challenges.

 

[tbolt909]

Sure, it's only about the music, just like Disco Demolition Night.

A few years ago Colin Kaepernick was turned into pariah. He couldn't even get a roster spot as a backup. Many people said they were permanently boycotting the NFL because of the kneeling during the anthem. These sports fans come right back if their team starts winning some games (See Buffalo).

The NFL has mostly black players performing for the white mans amusement. When Doug Williams became the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl (playing for the Redskins!) a reporter asked him "How long have you been a Black quarterback?". Sadly, the same ignorant attitudes persist...

 

[tbolt909]

Look at all the most common music genres over the past three decades. Count the number of performers of each genre who died by murder. Hip-hop/Rap leads by a wide margin and one of the base causes is the lifestyle and culture the music espouses. It is no accident.


I dislike opera but I don't hate Italians. I like mariachi but don't particularly like the Mexican culture. You can like or dislike one facet of a culture without buying into the whole thing. I find it deplorable and tragic that Hip-hop/Rap promote all manner of misbehavior, self-destroying life activities and idol worship and is the answer to their issues with life in general; particularly when the most affected ethnic group has so many other life challenges.

You single out one genre. Country has songs about redneck drunks. Rock & Roll, Blues, and many other styles have songs about all kinds of "Vice". Idol worship is not limited to the black community. Don't be naive. You have expressed your bigotry eloquently...

 

[CTListener]

You single out one genre. Country has songs about redneck drunks. Rock & Roll, Blues, and many other styles have songs about all kinds of "Vice". Idol worship is not limited to the black community. Don't be naive. You have expressed your bigotry eloquently...

I've got to at least partially defend landtuna here. There are no parallels in rock or country music to the sort of senseless "beef" violence that takes the lives of rappers. Characters like Suge Knight and Tupac Shakur just don't exist in country music. "Keeping it real" as an excuse for murder just doesn't wash, sorry. Johnny Cash sang of shooting a man in Reno; he didn't actually go there and do it. Gene Pitney sang of a murderous outlaw and the man who killed him, but didn't start a homicidal feud with Marty Robbins over whose story-songs were more violent. Elton John sang how Saturday night was all right for fighting yet never threw a punch. If I sound bigoted, explain what I'm not understanding about African American culture, please. I'm open to learning.

 

[victorres43]

I've got to at least partially defend landtuna here. There are no parallels in rock or country music to the sort of senseless "beef" violence that takes the lives of rappers. Characters like Suge Knight and Tupac Shakur just don't exist in country music. "Keeping it real" as an excuse for murder just doesn't wash, sorry. Johnny Cash sang of shooting a man in Reno; he didn't actually go there and do it. Gene Pitney sang of a murderous outlaw and the man who killed him, but didn't start a homicidal feud with Marty Robbins over whose story-songs were more violent. Elton John sang how Saturday night was all right for fighting yet never threw a punch. If I sound bigoted, explain what I'm not understanding about African American culture, please. I'm open to learning.

I mean, it's not like Phil Spector, Gary Glitter, and Eric Clapton are horrible people. And Carrie Underwood and John Rich are great Christians!

These "fine people" are so unlike "thugs" like A Tribe Called Quest, the Sugarhill Gang, and Run-DMC!

Now see, this mentality has caused adult-oriented radio stations to reject even clean rap like Will Smith in favor of milquetoast acts like Maroon 5 and Kelly Clarkson.

 

[davideduardo]

Look at all the most common music genres over the past three decades. Count the number of performers of each genre who died by murder. Hip-hop/Rap leads by a wide margin and one of the base causes is the lifestyle and culture the music espouses. It is no accident.

If the communities most Blacks live in have inferior education, are constantly broken up to build freeways and arenas and...

Well, you get the idea of how a group might be antagonistic and given to rebel behaviour.

I dislike opera but I don't hate Italians.

And that is because Opera was never an event for the "working people" of an area of what is, today, Italy and which back then was a principality or "nation state".

I like mariachi but don't particularly like the Mexican culture.

That is a statement like referring to "American Culture". There is no such thing as "Mexican" culture, but there are all kinds of cultures that have been or are the results of regional, indigenous, European and other influences. And Mexico has some amazingly rich artistic and musical cultures (with an "s" at the end) that are worthy of emulation and respect.

You can like or dislike one facet of a culture without buying into the whole thing.

That is because, generally, cultures are not consolidated by race or nation.

I find it deplorable and tragic that Hip-hop/Rap promote all manner of misbehavior, self-destroying life activities and idol worship and is the answer to their issues with life in general; particularly when the most affected ethnic group has so many other life challenges.

If you look at the music from a Black perspective, you see it as a reflection of suppression and subjugation. That makes a big, big difference and should be viewed as an indictment of the ruling classes, not of African Americans.