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The Beginning of the end for HD Radio

Theater of My Mind said:
There are some niche formats like that which lend themselves well to the subchannels.
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In a portion of Los Angeles, the continental US's only all Japanese pop music station is carried on KBUU-LP 99.1 HD3.
 
And the only resolution for in-home and portable listening to "satellite radio" is to stream it on your iPhone or Amazon device.
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This is an untrue statement. LG, Sony and Samsung smart TV platforms, Sony Playstation, Roku, and Dish Network all offer Sirius XM, and I'm sure there are others. (I do not know if the Amazon Fire streaming stick or if Apple TV offer a Sirius XM app.)

I can also use a smartphone app to directly play Sirius XM content on my Wi-Fi enabled home theater receiver.
 
My Roku TV has SXM as an App

My Sony Bluray player has a SXM app

My phone chromecasts to the TV... I use the SXM app sometimes to stream audio that way


That is three different ways I can easily get SXM audio to my receiver.

I can also use my laptop and screen duplication wireless to the TV and use the ARC to feed it to the receiver so that is 4 ways

And that is not even counting the 3 Alexa devices in this house..... I could plug a cheap set of Logitech powered speakers with a subwoofer into the back of my Alexa 8" and get it.

Now that SXM has control of Pandora, they are really pushing the online stuff, including limited run channels ( Joni Mitchell is being offered this month) that are APP only, you can't get them on one of their receivers.

Data is cheap these days, I didn't even bother with a SXM radio in the Mustang when I got it, I ripped out the Shaker 500 system with a wonky CD player, replaced it with a double DIN head unit with current technology ( the 2007 radio had no integration features as it was before smart devices) and with Android Auto I can just hit the touch screen to use the SXM app on the phone.
 
MRBIboredop said:
Data is cheap these days, I didn't even bother with a SXM radio in the Mustang when I got it, I ripped out the Shaker 500 system with a wonky CD player, replaced it with a double DIN head unit with current technology ( the 2007 radio had no integration features as it was before smart devices) and with Android Auto I can just hit the touch screen to use the SXM app on the phone.
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Data may be cheap. In my area, data doesn't exist in spots. As a result, an SXM radio comes in handy in the car. My Kenwood works well for that. I do wish online radio integrated better with my iPhone for song titles, but the bluetooth functions very well for me.
 
spiritof67 said:
Data may be cheap. In my area, data doesn't exist in spots. As a result, an SXM radio comes in handy in the car. My Kenwood works well for that. I do wish online radio integrated better with my iPhone for song titles, but the bluetooth functions very well for me.
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Do you have Internet access? I've heard there is a lot of this thing called 'streaming' there.
 
Did you not read spiritof67's post? He spent much of it discussing that very topic, including a mention of data dropout issues in the car. (Data dropout = unreliable internet connectivity.)
 
MarkW said:
Did you not read spiritof67's post? He spent much of it discussing that very topic, including a mention of data dropout issues in the car. (Data dropout = unreliable internet connectivity.)
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Dropouts are also a factor in SiriusXM car reception. Leafy canopies of trees are death to SXM signals, as are mountains. I had little trouble with either back in Connecticut, but travel here in Vermont is full of dead spots for satellite radio as well as internet connectivity.
 
CTListener said:
Dropouts are also a factor in SiriusXM car reception. Leafy canopies of trees are death to SXM signals, as are mountains. I had little trouble with either back in Connecticut, but travel here in Vermont is full of dead spots for satellite radio as well as internet connectivity.
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Uh, you do know that if that little antenna can't see the satellite, the signal will drop? Unless you have one of the newer 360 receiver chips. It will look for WiFi or cell data signals and switch over to the stream if the satellite signal is lost.
 
Kelly A, your sarcasm is duly noted. I've dealt with your kind before.

I've been a fan of streaming for years, and listen to them often on the road. Unfortunately in my immediate area, it has more dropouts than my high school. The LTE and 5G networks become reliable once I get closer to the St. Louis metro area. My satellite radio in the car works extremely well. Same with HD Radio on FM. Even behind limestone bluffs, overhead trees and other obstacles.
 
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spiritof67 said:
Kelly A, your sarcasm is duly noted. I've dealt with your kind before.

I've been a fan of streaming for years, and listen to them often on the road. Unfortunately in my immediate area, it has more dropouts than my high school. The LTE and 5G networks become reliable once I get closer to the St. Louis metro area. My satellite radio in the car works extremely well. Same with HD Radio on FM. Even behind limestone bluffs, overhead trees and other obstacles.
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I just noticed your handle. Isn't that the name of a Paul Revere & the Raiders album?
 
Knew a lot of jerks in high school. It sounds like you might have been one of them.

As for streams these days, The Current in Minneapolis is a favorite of mine. KEXP Austin. 91.1 The Avenue Appleton-Green Bay. KNX-FM/The Mellow Sound, or whatever the kids are calling it these days. The extra channels on SXM, Stingray, Accuradio. Crossover 105.1 Manila. Again, all reliable when I'm closer to the metro area on my commutes.
 
Okaaayyyyyyyy.... let's avoid the ad hominems and stay on subject.

ad ho·mi·nem
/ˌad ˈhämənəm/

adjective
adjective: ad hominem
  1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
    "vicious ad hominem attacks"
 
spiritof67 said:
My handle has more to do with one of my favorite years in music. Some great music came from that year, from just about every direction.
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Here is where we see how there are "different strokes".

I was owner and PD of a Top 40 station in 1967. I loved the music, spent my off-hours listening to my own station and went to clubs that had live tribute bands. Today, I may listen to a later 60's song or two once a month. There is too much good new music for me to hear the 60's stuff over and over.

See? That is a reasoned decision to move on. But I have programed oldies and classic hits and classic rock stations, and understand that many people don't acquire new tastes and really enjoy the older stuff.

So let's accept that age does not necessarily restrict interest in new music, nor does it require us to still spend lottsa' time with the older songs.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Here is where we see how there are "different strokes".

I was owner and PD of a Top 40 station in 1967. I loved the music, spent my off-hours listening to my own station and went to clubs that had live tribute bands. Today, I may listen to a later 60's song or two once a month. There is too much good new music for me to hear the 60's stuff over and over.

See? That is a reasoned decision to move on. But I have programed oldies and classic hits and classic rock stations, and understand that many people don't acquire new tastes and really enjoy the older stuff.

So let's accept that age does not necessarily restrict interest in new music, nor does it require us to still spend lottsa' time with the older songs.
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David, I'm looking for new music too. That's why AAA stations like The Current, KEXP, and The Avenue are on my list of favorites.
 
scanman1 said:
Try WXRT. Best AAA station in the country IMO.
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And 'XRT is another station I've enjoyed. A friend of mine rolled ten hours of tape on the station during a trip to Chicago in 1991. Back then they were modern rock focused with a deep library of older rock that fit the format. I was hooked.
Lester_the_NightFly said:
Totally agree, I live the in Twin Cities and I find the current too broad, no feeling of the flow of music.
More like jukebox radio.
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Disagree with you there. I practically mainlined that station during my trip to Minnesota in 2019. My YL and I listened to that station from Duluth and the North Shore to Minneapolis and Rochester. Switched to the internet stream near the Iowa Border and listened there the rest of the way home. At least until my network dropped to 4g (thank you American Telephone & Telegraph) 40 miles from home.

I also like their local shows for Duluth and the Twin Cities, along with "Time Machine Tuesday."

Jim McGuinn is the PD at The Current, and was PD at KPNT/The Point where I live back in the mid 1990s.

While I like WXRT, it's one of the only commercial AAA stations I really like. These days, the Public Radio model for the format is a good fit.
 
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