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Cleveland TV Revolving Door

Didn't Gray buy out Raycom after the rules changed? You'd think that doing a purchase when the rules changed meant that you'd have to spin things off to adhere to the new rules, not remain grandfathered in, but I'm not in the FCC game, so it's all a foreign concept to me.
Those rules changed (or were relaxed) in 2000, which by then WOIO was already owned by Raycom after it acquisition of Malrite Communications. WUAB was LMA'ed with WOIO since the mid 90s, and in 2000, Raycom made an offer to buy WUAB from Cannell Commuications. I assume the old rules will continue to be grandfathered under the next ownership, should they decide to keep both stations or not.

Although, I thought WUAB was simply a digital net of WOIO now, or something to that effect.
Even though WUAB is technically a subchannel of WOIO and sharing it's frequency, it still retains a separate license. It would be different if Gray (or Raycom at the time) returned WUAB's license and completely merged WUAB with WOIO, resulting in 7 19.x subchannels, with 43.1 moving to 19.2, making it similar to a station like WTVG. The downside would be that 43.1 would lose its must carry status for cable & satellite providers, and instead would have to work out a deal with them. I'm sure there would be other downsides as well.

Also, if Nexstar can't own two stations, maybe they'd look into simply reworking The CW into a programming block for their stations to run during weekday hours, in lieu of picking up other syndicated programming?
They can own multiple low power stations in the same market, either as repeaters for their full power station or for an entirely new station, just as long as that low power station doesn't hold a Class A status. That's the reason why Gray couldn't buy W27EA-D, a Class A station, for Telemundo, and ended up buying WLFM-LD instead. Since Mansfield is technically a separate market but grouped in with Cleveland/Akron, Gray was able to buy them and relocate to Canton, which is also it's own separate market.
 
Those rules changed (or were relaxed) in 2000, which by then WOIO was already owned by Raycom after it acquisition of Malrite Communications. WUAB was LMA'ed with WOIO since the mid 90s, and in 2000, Raycom made an offer to buy WUAB from Cannell Commuications. I assume the old rules will continue to be grandfathered under the next ownership, should they decide to keep both stations or not.

Gotcha. I was about to comment that I didn't know about the WOIO/WUAB connections in the mid-90s, but then I realized that's when the whole "Hometeam 19/43" thing began, and that all makes sense. The mid-90s was still when 43 had both UPN and The WB, correct? I'm not exactly sure when WB went to 55, but I think it was 1997. I'm remembering commercials for "Power Rangers Turbo" being dubbed over by Patti from the kids' club and showing that it was on "WB55," so it was probably that fall. I also remember WB55's launch weekend that was basically showing all of the backlogged WB content that 43 hadn't shown by that point.

Even though WUAB is technically a subchannel of WOIO and sharing it's frequency, it still retains a separate license. It would be different if Gray (or Raycom at the time) returned WUAB's license and completely merged WUAB with WOIO, resulting in 7 19.x subchannels, with 43.1 moving to 19.2, making it similar to a station like WTVG. The downside would be that 43.1 would lose its must carry status for cable & satellite providers, and instead would have to work out a deal with them. I'm sure there would be other downsides as well.

I thought cable companies had to carry all of the local channels in an area, regardless of their status. However, speaking of which, I remember Spectrum only carrying a few of the digital subchannels from the affiliates and not all of them. Does the "must carry" status not filter down to subchannels, or are those carried on a basis of "eh, maybe we have space for it down in the 980s of our channel roster, but we still need to have 167 shopping channels"?

They can own multiple low power stations in the same market, either as repeaters for their full power station or for an entirely new station, just as long as that low power station doesn't hold a Class A status. That's the reason why Gray couldn't buy W27EA-D, a Class A station, for Telemundo, and ended up buying WLFM-LD instead. Since Mansfield is technically a separate market but grouped in with Cleveland/Akron, Gray was able to buy them and relocate to Canton, which is also it's own separate market.

I thought Canton was still lumped into the Akron market and, by association, Cleveland. I realize they're about an hour apart and, maybe, it's closer to the Youngstown market. All of that is still confusing, but I guess it makes sense in some manner. (Randomly, is 96.5 still licensed to the Akron market and just identifies as a Cleveland station, or did iHeart relocate the frequency up north?)
 
The mid-90s was still when 43 had both UPN and The WB, correct? I'm not exactly sure when WB went to 55, but I think it was 1997.
Both UPN and The WB launched at about the same time, just days apart from each other. Both networks were seen on WUAB and supposedly had a limited schedule at that time, making the dual affiliation plausible at first. The WB moved over to WBNX on September 1, 1997. At that point, I would imagine that the dual affiliation was overwhelming and that WUAB had to get rid of one of them.

I'm remembering commercials for "Power Rangers Turbo" being dubbed over by Patti from the kids' club and showing that it was on "WB55," so it was probably that fall. I also remember WB55's launch weekend that was basically showing all of the backlogged WB content that 43 hadn't shown by that point.
WBNX also carried Fox Kids, which was rejected by WJW and other New World Communications stations that exchanged their existing affiliation for Fox in the fall of 1994. Picking up Fox Kids and some of the displaced syndicated programs from the swap helped improve WBNX's presence. Fox Kids, later 4Kids TV, would continue to air along with Kids WB on WBNX, until 2008 when Kids WB ended operations and sold the time slot to 4Kids, which then ended their programming block on the Fox network side.

I can imagine that WUAB wasn't able to clear everything from both networks, especially when they started expanding their operations. I'm not sure what aired, but I'm sure some shows were taped-delayed to other time slots.

I thought cable companies had to carry all of the local channels in an area, regardless of their status. However, speaking of which, I remember Spectrum only carrying a few of the digital subchannels from the affiliates and not all of them. Does the "must carry" status not filter down to subchannels, or are those carried on a basis of "eh, maybe we have space for it down in the 980s of our channel roster, but we still need to have 167 shopping channels"?
Stations have to work out an agreement with the cable companies for subchannel carriage. Some, but not all are carried, and vary with different providers. One of the reasons why Ion purchased WDLI-TV at the time was so that they could place Ion Plus on the .1 sub and gain significant cable coverage in the area, as cable companies were required to carry the main .1 sub.

Spectrum carries WUAB 43.2, but at the launch of Circle a few years ago, WUAB choose to bump Bounce off of 43.2 and over to 43.3, which likely didn't have any cable coverage at the time. My guess was that they wanted to promote Circle, being owned & operated by Gray, and wanted to ensure that it would reach viewers on cable as well. That must have blew up in their face as a few weeks later, Bounce was back on 43.2 and Circle was on 43.3, probably due to a flood of complaints from cable viewers.

I thought Canton was still lumped into the Akron market and, by association, Cleveland. I realize they're about an hour apart and, maybe, it's closer to the Youngstown market. All of that is still confusing, but I guess it makes sense in some manner.
I'm not entirely sure. Perhaps someone else can provide some more info. Otherwise, Gray won't be able to own WOHZ-CD being a Class A station in the same market as WOIO & WUAB. Perhaps being used as a repeater allowed them to get around that limitation, but I don't know if that was mentioned during the purchase agreement. Additionally, they could file to drop the Class A designation, but then they would lose additional benefits as well.

(Randomly, is 96.5 still licensed to the Akron market and just identifies as a Cleveland station, or did iHeart relocate the frequency up north?)
WBNX is technically an Akron station, but in the past, has identified itself as Cleveland for branding purposes. In their ID, they mention both Akron and Cleveland, not only do they serve both cities, but probably because their transmitter is located closer to Cleveland.

96.5's transmitter was originally located in Akron (I think), which was later moved to Brecksville. Because its signal still reaches Akron fairly well, it's still licensed to Akron.

Low power stations can be the worse, and as mentioned before, have less restrictions compared to full power stations. WQDI, KONV, WUEK & WEKA are all low power TV stations that are licensed to Canton, yet broadcast from Downtown Cleveland with signals that fade out by the time they reach Akron. They were all applications for new stations that stated off in Canton, yet made small hops to new locations over time until they reached their final destination.
 
Spectrum carries WUAB 43.2, but at the launch of Circle a few years ago, WUAB choose to bump Bounce off of 43.2 and over to 43.3, which likely didn't have any cable coverage at the time. My guess was that they wanted to promote Circle, being owned & operated by Gray, and wanted to ensure that it would reach viewers on cable as well. That must have blew up in their face as a few weeks later, Bounce was back on 43.2 and Circle was on 43.3, probably due to a flood of complaints from cable viewers.

Spectrum does carry 43.3 Circle on channel 997, which was added last year
WBNX is technically an Akron station, but in the past, has identified itself as Cleveland for branding purposes. In their ID, they mention both Akron and Cleveland, not only do they serve both cities, but probably because their transmitter is located closer to Cleveland.
Cleveland, Akron, and Canton are all lumped in as a single TV market, so the city of license is really just window dressing
96.5's transmitter was originally located in Akron (I think), which was later moved to Brecksville. Because its signal still reaches Akron fairly well, it's still licensed to Akron.

Low power stations can be the worse, and as mentioned before, have less restrictions compared to full power stations. WQDI, KONV, WUEK & WEKA are all low power TV stations that are licensed to Canton, yet broadcast from Downtown Cleveland with signals that fade out by the time they reach Akron. They were all applications for new stations that stated off in Canton, yet made small hops to new locations over time until they reached their final destination.
As mentioned before, CLE/AKR/CAN are all one TV market, so COL means bupkis.

Regarding WAKS, when big frequency swap went down, Clear Channel (now iHeart) made no bones about the fact that they consider KISS 96.5 as a Cleveland station, and the only mention of Akron is during the legal ID, because they have to.

When you get down to it, in both TV and radio, COL means very little, and you shouldn't get too hung up on it.
 
I might be remembering incorrectly but I believe that the WKDD antenna was located on Sackett ave. at least back 40+ years ago. Google "earthing" the location shows nary an antenna structure in site but it looks like some housing has been built at least in the area where I think it used to be. Looks like it's been moved a bit further north but still in the Falls.
 
Both UPN and The WB launched at about the same time, just days apart from each other. Both networks were seen on WUAB and supposedly had a limited schedule at that time, making the dual affiliation plausible at first. The WB moved over to WBNX on September 1, 1997. At that point, I would imagine that the dual affiliation was overwhelming and that WUAB had to get rid of one of them.

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I can imagine that WUAB wasn't able to clear everything from both networks, especially when they started expanding their operations. I'm not sure what aired, but I'm sure some shows were taped-delayed to other time slots.

IIRC, this is correct. I couldn't tell you a schedule, but I definitely remember them airing programming from either or both of these networks on "off nights" as compared to WGN's WB carriage and our Columbus affiliate, which started as only WB and then picked up UPN programming from our Fox affiliate a few years later.
This was one of the primary reasons WUAB's days on Columbus cable were numbered once they signed on with these networks. So much of their programming was blacked out thanks to Syndex. They only lasted as long as they did because of their Indians and Cavs carriage, and even those games occasionally were victims of Syndex.
 
IIRC, this is correct. I couldn't tell you a schedule, but I definitely remember them airing programming from either or both of these networks on "off nights" as compared to WGN's WB carriage and our Columbus affiliate, which started as only WB and then picked up UPN programming from our Fox affiliate a few years later.
IIRC, during that time, WUAB didn't have a network branding integrated into their logo, and simply went by Channel 43 for both network affiliations. It wasn't until after The WB moved over to WBNX that WUAB then started branding itself as UPN 43. WUAB would later brand itself as HomeTeam 43, then 43 The Block, before going back to a universal branding of WUAB UPN 43 until the closure of the network.
 
IIRC, this is correct. I couldn't tell you a schedule, but I definitely remember them airing programming from either or both of these networks on "off nights" as compared to WGN's WB carriage and our Columbus affiliate, which started as only WB and then picked up UPN programming from our Fox affiliate a few years later.
This was one of the primary reasons WUAB's days on Columbus cable were numbered once they signed on with these networks. So much of their programming was blacked out thanks to Syndex. They only lasted as long as they did because of their Indians and Cavs carriage, and even those games occasionally were victims of Syndex.
As both mini-nets were expanding, UPN got priority on channel 43 and aired on schedule, while WB got shoved to weekends.

From 1995 until Sept 1997, WUAB juggled UPN, WB, the Cavs, and the (then) Indians, which on some weeks led to some crazy lineups to accommodate everything.
 
The show started back when everybody was in lock down and social distancing due to the pandemic. Either it served it's purpose or got canceled due to poor ratings (Probably the latter). I watched it once and was not impressed with both the movie and the hosts, along with the overall presentation of the show. They did run some classic WUAB promos in between the movie though. Originally it ran at 8 PM Saturday nights competing against Svengoolie and SOG, and my guess was that it was eventually bumped into the late night hours because viewers preferred those shows over Big Bad B.

Most BBB episodes can be streamed from 19's website here, but do it quick as the page will likely be taken down sometime soon.
 
The show started back when everybody was in lock down and social distancing due to the pandemic. Either it served it's purpose or got canceled due to poor ratings (Probably the latter). I watched it once and was not impressed with both the movie and the hosts, along with the overall presentation of the show. They did run some classic WUAB promos in between the movie though. Originally it ran at 8 PM Saturday nights competing against Svengoolie and SOG, and my guess was that it was eventually bumped into the late night hours because viewers preferred those shows over Big Bad B.

Most BBB episodes can be streamed from 19's website here, but do it quick as the page will likely be taken down sometime soon.
To be fair, WUAB didn't have much choice as far as leaving the 8p slot, because in the fall of 2021 the CW expanded to 7 nights a week, adding Saturday programming to their docket.

Had not CW expanded to Saturday, Big Bad B would likely still be at 8p today.
 
I didn't like the two "Big Bad..." hosts, but I am sad that the show may be done, based on what is shared here. We always tuned in just to see what the movie was, and with these shows, every once in a while, an unseen one would be on. Just some months ago we had a number of these types of shows available, many on Channel 35 "("Son of Ghoul", "Lamia, Mistress of The Dark", "Drive In Movie Maniacs", "Off-Beat Cinema", "Halloween Harvey's Festival of Fear"). On Channel 43 there is/was "The Big Bad B-Movie Show". Now we're down to "Svengoolie" on MeTv, and his show is limited to Universal movies, and some others. The chances of seeing something way off-beat is, unfortunately, minimal. Too bad. Too bad.
 
I didn't like the two "Big Bad..." hosts, but I am sad that the show may be done, based on what is shared here. We always tuned in just to see what the movie was, and with these shows, every once in a while, an unseen one would be on. Just some months ago we had a number of these types of shows available, many on Channel 35 "("Son of Ghoul", "Lamia, Mistress of The Dark", "Drive In Movie Maniacs", "Off-Beat Cinema", "Halloween Harvey's Festival of Fear"). On Channel 43 there is/was "The Big Bad B-Movie Show". Now we're down to "Svengoolie" on MeTv, and his show is limited to Universal movies, and some others. The chances of seeing something way off-beat is, unfortunately, minimal. Too bad. Too bad.
Don't forget that Channel 8 is still airing Big Chuck and Lil John skits, though repackaged and repeating the same skits almost every week.
 


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