I don't see them being difficult to get, as particularly the 92.7 signal they have gets out well, and from reports here, so does the 92.9. If I were a regular listener to this station, I think I'd be more annoyed that it kept changing frequencies, particularly in Thurston County. When I first discovered KGHO 10 or 11 years ago, it was on their Thurston County relay, then on 103.3. That moved to 101.1, with the 103.3 they were using going to KMAS. I have no idea what happened with the 104.1 that station was using. I guess that lasted six years or so, before they got the current 92.9, and it looks like that frequency's days are numbered. The other thing, if they're not paying licensing anyway, why not throw up an internet stream? It appears they're already illegal anyway, and that would be a much more efficient way of reaching their target audience.
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Mystery Oldies and Classic Rock 92.9 probably already discussed but here’s another thread about it.
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I think this is a (strange) situation where there is more risk in being on the internet compared to being on the air. Seems like an oxymoron, but in this case, it’s true. Being on the air is more of a “safe haven.”
But with far less potential listeners.
After reading this thread, one thing comes to mind. Covid has created problems across many federal agencies, the FCC is certainly not immune, and perhaps even considered low priority. So this is not lost on some radio operators and it may becoming close to the Wild West.
The FCC may be low priority, but in terms of the FCC agenda, radio is also a low priority. Certainly telecom and the internet are way more important.
There may be a grain of truth in your statement, but this station has been operating this way long before anyone knew the word Covid.
I've heard of transmitters being shot with high powered rifles ofer a lot less.
101.1 is simulcasting KBRD 680 in Lacey. There is another broadcaster that is really irritating me is CSN International, they have too many translators in my area in Buckley. 105.7 in Orting and also 107.3 in Greenwater. Why do they need both translators? I can pick up both of them up as far north of South Seattle. I feel that 105.7 needs to go so Bill's radio station can expand further. Sometimes I can pick up 105.7 out of Union in my area but that translator usually drowns it out. They don't need both translators!!!!!
I'm guessing you mean the antennas or tower lights, not the transmitter which is inside a closed building.
I can pick up 92.9 from Bonney Lake. The signal is only OK but I enjoy listening to the music mix. I wondered if it was operating illegally because I have never heard a legal ID. Since it does not play any commercials nor donation requests, how does it make enough money to keep itself going? Just an expensive hobby? Albeit less expensive if one does not have to pay any licensing fees.
The people involved with this station on 92.9 are also owners in whole or part, of KITZ 1400 and KGTK 920 if i recall my fuzzy memory and research
Between 60dBu and 45dBu F(50,50) sits KISM's translator interference complaint zone. The Olympia translator's 92.9 F(50,10) contours probably spill into KISM's complaint with less than 20dB margin ,.. i.e. therefore potential interference.
KISM would have to launch a formal listener survey. Given that KISM targets Bellingham I doubt that phase would be successful.
I think KVNW would be the better candidate to go after the co-channel translator.
KISM would have to launch a formal listener survey. Given that KISM targets Bellingham I doubt that phase would be successful.
I think KVNW would be the better candidate to go after the co-channel translator.
So, if no radio station ever complains, only DXers and radio geeks, this station will operate undisturbed for as long as its owner desires? Will the FCC eventually take action on its own, or is its unwritten policy on pirate operations now "no harm, no foul"?
The Commission has closed many of it's local field offices, making their regional field offices cover a much larger geographical area.
If a enough complaints are received, they put together a "tiger team" and dispatch to the area of concern. I'd imagine a handful (literally) of DX'ers and radio nerds don't constitute enough complaints to mobilize and travel a team out of the Los Angeles area to bust some pirate.
What I've personally done in the past; is triangulate on the pirate, take lots of photos of their location and antenna, along with spectral screenshots from test gear, and either personally approach the Pirate with the promise to turn their name and location into the Commission, or they can voluntarily shut down now avoiding the risk of serious repercussions. In two out of three instances, the pirate slammed the door in my face, but shut down permanently only a few minutes later.
I've mentioned on R-D before that near Knoxville, Tennessee, a pirate ran for several years, had a very visibly marked office and was fundraising publicly for a taller tower, on a first adjacent for one of the Knoxville stations. The only thing that got the station off the air was when the owner of the Knoxville station took it back from an LMA arrangement, and all of a sudden the pirate "was sold to a company up north" and went online-only.
Can't a broadcaster such as Bill file a complaint against this station? I'm not sure if in all cases the party complaining has had an interest in the operating station, but I can think of at least one case where an objection was filed to a renewal because the offending station hadn't been on the air in over a year. I want to say this was in Alabama, but if y'all want proof I can look it up.
If the station was creating interference with one of Bill's stations, he would be well within his rights and ability to complain. If not, then I'm sure Bill has enough to do with his own business rather than wasting time fox hunting some pirate because a few radio nerds are upset.
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