AUDIO: Fox & Annie’s First Morning Show on WCBS-FM & Rant

[ksradiogeek]

While the person who started this thread does not need to listen to a station he claims not to like, I think it's also true there is no need to read his posts, if you do not like them.

But when someone does it repeatedly, what you posted has limits, especially on a public forum such as this. MTN has long evolved into another long-ago banned poster because it became practically spam.

 

[Greg Strickland]

Enough said, let’s give it a listen. If you like their new morning show, fine. If you don’t like it, then don’t listen to it. Enjoy while it last.

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Foxx & Annie's First Show - 2/13/23

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What are your thoughts about their new morning show on WCBS-FM?

MTNProductions- On my PC the audio quality of Foxx and Annie first show audio recording is poor. Using this recording as an example is pejorative and appears as intent to portray the morning show in a negative way.

 

[ksradiogeek]

MTNProductions- On my PC the audio quality of Foxx and Annie first show audio recording is poor. Using this recording as an example is pejorative and appears as intent to portray the morning show in a negative way.

The OP has already admitted to doctoring airchecks in a previous thread.

 

[AceBiscuits]

In their defense, I went back and listened to the other airchecks they uploaded, and they all sound distorted/pitch shifted.

 

[b-turner]

If you've ever been thrown together with someone to co-host a morning show, it takes a while to learn the other person. O would imagine the first month will be the learning curve for the whole team.

 

[MTNProductions]

MTNProductions- On my PC the audio quality of Foxx and Annie first show audio recording is poor. Using this recording as an example is pejorative and appears as intent to portray the morning show in a negative way.

The recording I made for this aircheck was on a reel-to-reel tape recorder which is my Panasonic model RS-765US that I recently got last month, and it’s a much better tape recorder that replaced my Akai 1721W, and it has 3-speeds, and the recording that I used was 1 7/8 IPS which is the slowest speed. I should’ve recorded at 3 3/4 IPS since it had better quality. The 1 7/8 IPS speed on a reel-to-reel sounded poor, so I have to apologize for the sound quality, because it sounds like it came out of AM radio. I don’t have any other equipment to use. I also have an Olympus voice recorder to record airchecks and transfer WMA files to WAV files and it sounds not too bad, but fine.

I remember a long time ago, my uncle gave me a huge haul of reel-to-reel tapes, and I go through these, it has airchecks from radio stations that are down in Florida. I did transferred them into MP3’s and the sound quality was terrible when my uncle recorded it at 1 7/8 IPS and it was a really bad quality, and mostly recorded at 3 3/4 IPS and 7 1/2 IPS, and they were recorded back in the 1990’s including oldies stations like WMXJ when it was “Majic 102.7” which includes Ken Held with his doo-wop show, and many of the them from WQHT’s “Hot 105” and a few others. I have a ton of them in my collection.

 

[DOB]

Please, don't post airchecks that are not the exact way that they were broadcasted, it's disrespectful, deceitful, and just wrong, it's like taking a political speech and altering the said words and content to fit a false narrative.

The new CBS Fm morning show should not be judged right now as they are developing the show and feeling out their chemistry. Give them at least 2 months before you make any kind of judgement. It's just not objective to make comments now when they are in that new development stage.

Broadway Bill Lee is in my opinion the best radio air talent of all time for that particular kind of show. The dayparts and stations where the presentation is music driven and the jock is the ultimate compliment.
What he does is completely different from a Howard Stern, morning zoo, or Rush Limbaugh kind of political show.
I'd compare it like a basketball team. Not a perfect analogy but for comparison, you have centers, forwards, and guards. They are executing a certain kind of style and talent, but together they all have their place.

Every air talent certainly including myself sounds corny and cheesey trying to do the rhyme every time thing. It's corny and downright horrible radio.
BUT, Bill Lee does it and it always sounds amazing!
I absolutely love the comparison of how he has adjusted his presentation over the years.
Such a gifted talent who in his 70s is still on top of the game.
Z100 was always the best station with their imaging and processing, however, afternoon drive Bill Lee just dominated. It's such a treasure to be able to listen to him on CBS Fm today. I doubt that lots of us would never develop the love for radio to do our shows without the inspiration of legendary jocks like Bill!

 

[michael hagerty]

Every air talent certainly including myself sounds corny and cheesey trying to do the rhyme every time thing. It's corny and downright horrible radio.
BUT, Bill Lee does it and it always sounds amazing!
I absolutely love the comparison of how he has adjusted his presentation over the years.
Such a gifted talent who in his 70s is still on top of the game.

I heard Bill in maybe his first week on KFRC in 1980 and I just couldn't get my brain around it.

Maybe a month later I was back in SF and he'd relaxed into the gig and I caught him right out of the gate on an intro that just played to his strengths. Been a fan ever since.

 

[leethalweapon]

I'm thinking that it's a good thing station management don't pay attention to boards like this, and people like @MTNProductions. Is there anything you actually like about WCBS FM?

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

Please, don't post airchecks that are not the exact way that they were broadcasted, it's disrespectful, deceitful, and just wrong, it's like taking a political speech and altering the said words and content to fit a false narrative.

The new CBS Fm morning show should not be judged right now as they are developing the show and feeling out their chemistry. Give them at least 2 months before you make any kind of judgement. It's just not objective to make comments now when they are in that new development stage.

did he edit the aircheck? I didn't catch that

And yeah.. give it time, MTN..... a couple days, a few weeks is nothing in the landscape of radio when a new term was formed and is hosting a show. Ir rakes time to feel out the strengths and weaknesses of the hosts among themselves

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

I'm thinking that it's a good thing station management don't pay attention to boards like this, and people like @MTNProductions. Is there anything you actually like about WCBS FM?

No, but despite saying he won't listen anymore, he will... and he'll still kvetch.

 

[MTNProductions]

Please, don't post airchecks that are not the exact way that they were broadcasted, it's disrespectful, deceitful, and just wrong, it's like taking a political speech and altering the said words and content to fit a false narrative.

The new CBS Fm morning show should not be judged right now as they are developing the show and feeling out their chemistry. Give them at least 2 months before you make any kind of judgement. It's just not objective to make comments now when they are in that new development stage.

Broadway Bill Lee is in my opinion the best radio air talent of all time for that particular kind of show. The dayparts and stations where the presentation is music driven and the jock is the ultimate compliment.
What he does is completely different from a Howard Stern, morning zoo, or Rush Limbaugh kind of political show.
I'd compare it like a basketball team. Not a perfect analogy but for comparison, you have centers, forwards, and guards. They are executing a certain kind of style and talent, but together they all have their place.

Every air talent certainly including myself sounds corny and cheesey trying to do the rhyme every time thing. It's corny and downright horrible radio.
BUT, Bill Lee does it and it always sounds amazing!
I absolutely love the comparison of how he has adjusted his presentation over the years.
Such a gifted talent who in his 70s is still on top of the game.
Z100 was always the best station with their imaging and processing, however, afternoon drive Bill Lee just dominated. It's such a treasure to be able to listen to him on CBS Fm today. I doubt that lots of us would never develop the love for radio to do our shows without the inspiration of legendary jocks like Bill!

Thanks for the mention. I’m just trying to post airchecks for the time being, but I might as well post airchecks on various Facebook Groups. As I was saying in my first post, this was just a taste of a new morning show to share the listeners if it was either good or bad. As for me, I’m not following Foxx & Annie’s new morning show that replaced Scott Shannon.

I was a WCBS-FM loyal listener for a long time until I stopped listening following Scott Shannon’s departure back in December 2022 since I did quit listening to WCBS-FM.

I reflected back to the last 50 years since it first hit the airwaves back in 1972 when it was the “Golden 101” where they played the oldies.

I know you’re did mentioned Broadway Bill Lee, I used to listened to him on WQHT’s “Hot 97” back in the 90’s where he played a lot of freestyle dance music. But nowadays, I don’t listened to Broadway Bill Lee on WCBS-FM during afternoon drive. The one show that I remember was Brian “The Cannon” Bannon on WLNG. I used to listened to WLNG when Brian Bannon did afternoons and did an incredible job than what Broadway Bill Lee did on CBS-FM. And now, Brian Bannon is gone from WLNG back on May 10th of last year, just a few months before Scott Shannon did with his last show on CBS-FM. As of now, I am now listening to WROW’s “Magic 590/100.5” with my new favorite, John Gabriel, and he sounds terrific doing afternoons and it’s much better than the other guy who replaced Brian Bannon was Randy Turner (aka The Ran Man) over at WBPM.

Just to keep in mind, it’s my opinion, but I don’t want to get any complaints about CBS-FM again. I listened to their new morning show last week, and after it was over, I quit. I have to avoid it at all costs.

WCBS-FM is sounding a lot different than what it used to sounded back when it was “New York’s Oldies Station” under Joe McCoy.

I had enough about CBS-FM, so let’s move on.

 

[DOB]

Thanks for the mention. I’m just trying to post airchecks for the time being, but I might as well post airchecks on various Facebook Groups. As I was saying in my first post, this was just a taste of a new morning show to share the listeners if it was either good or bad. As for me, I’m not following Foxx & Annie’s new morning show that replaced Scott Shannon.

I was a WCBS-FM loyal listener for a long time until I stopped listening following Scott Shannon’s departure back in December 2022 since I did quit listening to WCBS-FM.

I reflected back to the last 50 years since it first hit the airwaves back in 1972 when it was the “Golden 101” where they played the oldies.

I know you’re did mentioned Broadway Bill Lee, I used to listened to him on WQHT’s “Hot 97” back in the 90’s where he played a lot of freestyle dance music. But nowadays, I don’t listened to Broadway Bill Lee on WCBS-FM during afternoon drive. The one show that I remember was Brian “The Cannon” Bannon on WLNG. I used to listened to WLNG when Brian Bannon did afternoons and did an incredible job than what Broadway Bill Lee did on CBS-FM. And now, Brian Bannon is gone from WLNG back on May 10th of last year, just a few months before Scott Shannon did with his last show on CBS-FM. As of now, I am now listening to WROW’s “Magic 590/100.5” with my new favorite, John Gabriel, and he sounds terrific doing afternoons and it’s much better than the other guy who replaced Brian Bannon was Randy Turner (aka The Ran Man) over at WBPM.

Just to keep in mind, it’s my opinion, but I don’t want to get any complaints about CBS-FM again. I listened to their new morning show last week, and after it was over, I quit. I have to avoid it at all costs.

WCBS-FM is sounding a lot different than what it used to sounded back when it was “New York’s Oldies Station” under Joe McCoy.

I had enough about CBS-FM, so let’s move on.

I do think that there's a good amount of people like you that long for the days of 60s and 70s Oldies presented in the classic CBS Fm sound.
The imaging, processing, and jocks, the complete package.
It's a shame, I think satellite radio is the place for this. The demos that appeal to this are not attractive to advertisers, yes there's some of us in demo who would like to have this listening option, but overall this doesn't work for terrestrial radio, and the ship has sailed for creating these kind of viable, passion products, done correctly on the HD extension channels.
The problem is that while you sometimes would find this sound on satellite radio, it wasn't viable because of the attrocious sound quality.
This is a passion listen so digital artifacts coming out of an empty can of soup just isn't going to work.
If you can deal with the sound on AM and like those stations then you are actually better off than I am.

 

[MTNProductions]

I do think that there's a good amount of people like you that long for the days of 60s and 70s Oldies presented in the classic CBS Fm sound.
The imaging, processing, and jocks, the complete package.
It's a shame, I think satellite radio is the place for this. The demos that appeal to this are not attractive to advertisers, yes there's some of us in demo who would like to have this listening option, but overall this doesn't work for terrestrial radio, and the ship has sailed for creating these kind of viable, passion products, done correctly on the HD extension channels.
The problem is that while you sometimes would find this sound on satellite radio, it wasn't viable because of the attrocious sound quality.
This is a passion listen so digital artifacts coming out of an empty can of soup just isn't going to work.
If you can deal with the sound on AM and like those stations then you are actually better off than I am.

And one more thing, someone has posted a video about success of AM radio in New York City and the future of AM radio where people over 55 who still listens to AM radio today. It’s just a little short story.

 

[Rusty Muck]

And one more thing, someone has posted a video about success of AM radio in New York City and the future of AM radio where people over 55 who still listens to AM radio today. It’s just a little short story.

WABC is fully subsidized by revenue from Gristede’s and operated as a loss leader. It may be number one in the 65+ demo but has no future otherwise.

The uploader is trying to be all Pollyanna-ish about AM radio but it doesn’t reflect the reality before it.

 

[Mikey Radio]

And one more thing, someone has posted a video about success of AM radio in New York City and the future of AM radio where people over 55 who still listens to AM radio today. It’s just a little short story.

The general message of this video could probably be "spun" many ways, but fundamentally it's telling us the same thing that folks like @DavidEduardo, @michael hagerty, @TheBigA and others have been mentioning over and over in various Radio Discussions threads:

At 2:10, the narrator correctly states that 75% of people listening to WABC are aged 55 and older, and less than 10% are under 50.
At 2:40 he explains that the older demographic has a lot of $$ to spend, but then correctly states that the issue isn't attracting those listeners, but attracting advertisers and their $$. He also makes the same point that many on RD have made - that older folks tend to have brand loyalty and cannot be as easily swayed by advertising.

He correctly states that the top rated morning radio program in NYC may be on WABC, but that station is boosted financially by the fact that it's privately owned by Cats, a NYC politician and billionaire.

 

[TheBigA]

He correctly states that the top rated morning radio program in NYC may be on WABC, but that station is boosted financially by the fact that it's privately owned by Cats, a NYC politician and billionaire.

Also helped by weakness in the CHR format, and the shifting of the audience for WCBS-FM. There are no other radio stations in the New York Metro that aim for boomers. That leaves a large mass of people looking for something on the radio, and the only thing they find is WABC. I keep reading comments from people who don't agree with the views of the hosts, but they listen because there's nothing else to listen to. Cats might satisfy more people by playing oldies or during the week. But he likes having a captive audience listen to his politics.

 

[Rusty Muck]

Also helped by weakness in the CHR format, and the shifting of the audience for WCBS-FM. There are no other radio stations in the New York Metro that aim for boomers. That leaves a large mass of people looking for something on the radio, and the only thing they find is WABC. I keep reading comments from people who don't agree with the views of the hosts, but they listen because there's nothing else to listen to. Cats might satisfy more people by playing oldies or during the week. But he likes having a captive audience listen to his politics.

And to be fair, Sid Rosenberg (and, for that matter, the late Bernard McGuirk) isn’t AS old as Don Imus was, despite parroting the same views as practically everyone else at the station. Imus’s last years in morning drive were incredibly painful to listen to and one wonders how much it dragged down the rest of the station.

By subsidizing the entire weekend at WABC, Cats is offering this captive audience something to listen to besides the same Radio Surgery informercial running in a loop over on WOR. He may not be able to monetize it, but it’s beside the point. It’s no different from Moses Znamier running CFZM and CFMZ as literal playthings; Znamier has all the money he needs to do that and nothing else to prove.

 

[MTNProductions]

I just want to let you know that JJ Carter ended his midday shift on WBPM after 16 years since he first started in 2007, and now, he’s doing evenings, and in addition, “Sunny” Joe Allen over at WGNY-FM’s “Fox Oldies” is now a permanent replacement for JJ Carter, and now, I listened to “Sunny” Joe on “Fox Oldies” and it sounds really good to be honest, and of course Allan David Stein over at WMTR is still doing mornings there. And after three months, I decided enough is enough until March 31st which will be the last show I’m listening to, because Allan David Stein is still doing “Doo-Wop Drive” on Friday evenings. And guess who’s coming back, my favorite, Bob Miller is back, and I am going to listen to Bob Miller on WBPM starting April 3rd and he is still back into the limelight after a 3-month hiatus since December 23rd. I am glad that Bob Miller is going to sound as good as the last time. I have to be on a lookout for it.

 

[jt2]

>>>"I collect cassette tapes and air checks....to my delight, I found a half of a side of a tape of Bill on WQHT in January or early February 1991!"

I would be interested in trading for a copy of that Bill Lee aircheck. I can offer up other Bill Lee airchecks.
Please message me if interested.
I would have messaged you privately but for some reason your profile doesn't show here on radiodiscussions.
Thx.