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2024 Ford Mustang Drops AM Radio From Infotainment

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Android and Apple could be mutually exclusive with broadening choice. I understand bringing the Internet to the public's devices costs a lot of money. But there is a difference between doing that for a fee, and gatekeeping content on the Internet. When it comes to content, Android and Apple are simply receivers. I don't want my receiver to place me in a walled garden.

I think government-controlled gatekeeping of access to content, and corporate-controlled gatekeeping of access to content eventually have the same ending, and it is not democracy.

Three choices is the bare minimum for competition in a marketplace. And like a gene pool, you need a lot more than that to insure a healthy lineage.
 
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CTListener said:
And yet General Motors slapped his initials on buses and trucks for years.
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A minor note---I was in too big a rush to make the REO Speedwagon joke for this, but REO had no tie to General Motors whatsoever.

Ransom E. Olds founded Oldsmobile in 1897 and left that company in 1904. He founded what became known as REO in 1905.

He wanted to call it the Ransom E. Olds Motor Car Company, but he'd named the company that owned Oldsmobile the Olds Motor Vehicle Company, which he changed to Olds Motor Works two years later. His old company threatened to sue, so Ransom went with his initials.

GM acquired Oldsmobile in 1908.

Ransom retired from REO in 1923, came back in 1933 to guide the company through the depression and retired for good in 1934.

White Trucks bought REO in 1957. When they went bankrupt, Volvo bought White's assets and owns the rights to the REO brand today.
 
Okay. So your definition of an Oldsmobile is a 1966 Olds.

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And your objection to the final Oldsmobiles was that they looked like every other car. So here's a '66 Chevrolet Bel Air.

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This is what's known as the GM B-Body. The differences are the grilles, taillights and fender character lines, but they are, essentially, the same car.
 

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vchimpanzee said:
No, I'm saying what's the point in so many car makers.
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The point is to sell cars and make money. If they can't do that, then they do shut down (see Oldsmobile, Mercury, Plymouth and others).

More than half of the population in the United States in under the age of 45. That means they were born in 1978 or later and have no emotional attachment to cars of the 1950s and 1960s.
 
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The point is to sell cars and make money. If they can't do that, then they do shut down (see Oldsmobile, Mercury, Plymouth and others).

More than half of the population in the United States in under the age of 45. That means they were born in 1978 or later and have no emotional attachment to cars of the 1950s and 1960s.
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Talk about unlucky…
 
vchimpanzee said:
No, I'm saying what's the point in so many car makers.
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The same reason as why there are dozens and dozens of kinds of candy bars or breakfast cereals or canned soups: different tastes and needs.

In Spanish we say, "for different tastes different colors were made."
 
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I'm sorry. You were saying? This starts in 1982. I could put together a very nice multi-car garage from this list:

Car and Driver's 10Best Cars through the Decades
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No, I was saying that people born before 1978 are luckier than those born after 1978. I was born in the 90’s and quite honestly don’t see the world getting much better in my lifetime (between many of the crisis that we face), but it is what it is. I’ll take being close to 30 over being born in 2023, that’s for sure.
 
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The point is to sell cars and make money. If they can't do that, then they do shut down (see Oldsmobile, Mercury, Plymouth and others).

More than half of the population in the United States in under the age of 45. That means they were born in 1978 or later and have no emotional attachment to cars of the 1950s and 1960s.
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I like my Mercury. It looks like cop cars did some years ago.
 
fordranger797 said:
No, I was saying that people born before 1978 are luckier than those born after 1978. I was born in the 90’s and quite honestly don’t see the world getting much better in my lifetime (between many of the crisis that we face), but it is what it is. I’ll take being close to 30 over being born in 2023, that’s for sure.
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If you're right----don't envy us. I turn 67 tomorrow. If I live 30 more years, I'll be getting old and likely at some point sick, on a fixed income, as the world goes to hell in a handbasket. Not the best position. Having health, opportunity, earning power and time can be a tremendous advantage.

Mind you, I'm a bit more optimistic about the situation in general, and looking forward to the next chapter.
 
michael hagerty said:
If you're right----don't envy us. I turn 67 tomorrow. If I live 30 more years, I'll be getting old and likely at some point sick, on a fixed income, as the world goes to hell in a handbasket. Not the best position. Having health, opportunity, earning power and time can be a tremendous advantage.

Mind you, I'm a bit more optimistic about the situation in general, and looking forward to the next chapter.
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Happy early birthday! That’s one way of looking at it. I guess I still envy those who got to enjoy some of the best years of history and innovation, but there’s something to be said for opportunity.

The world has changed drastically. For those of us who wanted to work in broadcasting, most of us aren’t doing it anymore. I got in as early as humanly possible given my year of birth, but the bottom still fell out of the broadcasting industry and gave me a wake up call (and it’s definitely not worth most people’s while to stay in the industry in 2023). Add on top of that, looming international crisis and the fact that we’re all going to be stuck with electric cars whether we like them or not in the next decade. Yikes.
 
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