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2024 Ford Mustang Drops AM Radio From Infotainment

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There's not a single country I can find that is even considering smartphone-based passports. Again, for photo ID purposes, it's okay to have a photo of it on your phone (I don't, but after reading Kelly's comments, I may start), but if you're going out of the country, you need that physical passport.
True about the physical passport, but should you be separated from it, having a passport photo on your phone means you can at least prove who you are, and that you're a U.S. citizen at the nearest U.S. Embassy.
 
many automakers are using the stereo system to play fake engine/exhaust noise through the speakers, and a transducer under the driver's seat to create simulated engine vibrations!
Ha! Reminds me of when Michael McDonald (the one who's voice was seemingly either dominant or featured or backing on a bunch of hits in the 70s and 80s) was switched to in-ear monitors. Problem was, he was so used to the SPL from his monitors that he was thrown off by the IEM. They had to install a "thumper" speaker under the drum throne he used when seated at his keyboard so he could "feel" the bass and the kick drum.
 
The payment apps link to a credit or debit card. Anyone with sense is going to keep the physical card in their wallet in case their phone battery dies, the store they walk into doesn't use ApplePay, the reader is broken, they left their phone at home, and like that.
In much of sub-Saharan Africa there are people who are essentially part of the cash economy only. No bank accounts. They get money from work like street vending, short-time paid tasks and the like in credits stored on a mobile phone and they use it to buy groceries and other necessities from small vendors and street sellers. The phone company or the phone app provider manage the overall "float" which covers all the little transactions... and which a commercial bank would not want or care to manage.

There are some projects that involve taking this concept to some of the poorest nations in Latin America. The one I am connected to also has streaming audio that "unites" the services with both advertising as well as messages about where to use your "account". The idea there is to create a self-contained universe that does not include banks, credit cards, checkbooks and the like.
 
I recently test drove a 2023 Subaru, and practically every function of the thing is in a touch screen.

As nice as it is, I have to say that I like my older cars better, because they have buttons. Not "fake" touch screen buttons, but actual, tactile push buttons!

I like buttons!!

It's bad enough that phones have become little more than boring, buttonless slabs of glass, but car dashes too?

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Along those lines, this just in:

Hyundai Promises To Keep Buttons in Cars Because Touchscreen Controls Are Dangerous
 
I'm glad someone's finally getting some sense!

Buttons are fine, and, as Hyundai correctly points out, the tactile feedback is important for safety.

Maybe eventually, at least for "manual" cars (ones that aren't autonomous), other makers will also go back to using buttons for basic things (HVAC, radio, etc), and only use the touch screen as a supplementary feature for displaying information, changing advanced settings, etc.

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I'm glad someone's finally getting some sense!

Buttons are fine, and, as Hyundai correctly points out, the tactile feedback is important for safety.

Maybe eventually, at least for "manual" cars (ones that aren't autonomous), other makers will also go back to using buttons for basic things (HVAC, radio, etc), and only use the touch screen as a supplementary feature for displaying information, changing advanced settings, etc.

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Well, Hyundai is not alone here. Not everyone has ditched physical buttons. Hyundai's just staking out a position saying there's a point past which they don't intend (for now) to go.
 
Challenger's being discontinued. There will be a 2024 Charger, but it'll probably be an electric at the very least influenced by the recent show car, if not exactly like it:

2024 Dodge Charger: What We Know So Far
Sometimes I feel like we'll encounter a time where all car models will be discontinued, and we'll be reduced to having only one model of each type of car (compact and standard sedans will be called "Car", crossovers, SUVs and minivans will be called "SUV", delivery trucks and full size vans will be called "Van" and pickup trucks will be called "Truck"), and every vehicle of each type will be identical, so nobody will have to compete, and nobody will have to worry about what options to get because there won't be any options; every car will have the same set of standard features.

Well, Hyundai is not alone here. Not everyone has ditched physical buttons. Hyundai's just staking out a position saying there's a point past which they don't intend (for now) to go.
Right. What I mean is that, of all the auto makers, Hyundai is the only one I know of that has the proper sense to actively put a stop to the "touchscreens everywhere" trend.

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That's possible, but redundant. TVs that can do that also have their own built-in Bluetooth and Wi-fi and don't need a device to feed them.


The information doesn't exist on the phone. It's in my bank's servers. It's accessed on the device through apps that are password, fingerprint or facial recognition-protected.
The device, the phone itself, wouldn't feed the flatscreen from whatever is stored in its memory. The phone is merely the conduit to the cell system which is a conduit to the internet. 5G is not everywhere yet, but it has the potential to change the way that we access the internet and everything that goes with it. The days of cable boxes and wi-fi routers are probably numbered, and more and more devices will work off your phone, or be accessed and/or controlled by your phone, or they will be 5G devices themselves. That is, once 5G becomes more widespread.

And as you mentioned, there are already apps that pay by smartphone, and I don't see that trend slowing down. I also think that physical cards themselves will be more and more a thing of the past. Right now the cards themselves are only necessary because they physically hold the RFID chip that has the account access information in it.
 
Sometimes I feel like we'll encounter a time where all car models will be discontinued, and we'll be reduced to having only one model of each type of car (compact and standard sedans will be called "Car", crossovers, SUVs and minivans will be called "SUV", delivery trucks and full size vans will be called "Van" and pickup trucks will be called "Truck"), and every vehicle of each type will be identical, so nobody will have to compete, and nobody will have to worry about what options to get because there won't be any options; every car will have the same set of standard features.

Okay. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The entire object is to make money. They do that by offering competing products that one-up the other guys and appealing to the vanity of the buyer.

FFS, they didn't even do that in Soviet Russia.


Right. What I mean is that, of all the auto makers, Hyundai is the only one I know of that has the proper sense to actively put a stop to the "touchscreens everywhere" trend.

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No. They're the only ones putting out a "look at us" press release. If you scroll back and look at the interior of the new Mustang, despite the big infotainment screen, the HVAC and several other functions are still a set of buttons.
 
The device, the phone itself, wouldn't feed the flatscreen from whatever is stored in its memory. The phone is merely the conduit to the cell system which is a conduit to the internet. 5G is not everywhere yet, but it has the potential to change the way that we access the internet and everything that goes with it. The days of cable boxes and wi-fi routers are probably numbered, and more and more devices will work off your phone, or be accessed and/or controlled by your phone, or they will be 5G devices themselves. That is, once 5G becomes more widespread.

You're telling me (without saying those words) that you don't know what current devices do. A modern TV accesses the internet. It does not need a go-between device. Even if 5G cellular becomes a universal and reliable way to access data, its maximum download speed is still slower than currently-available good home internet service.

IF they got around that, the TVs would include 5G, just as they include Bluetooth and Wi-Fi now.

You're imagining the digital version of set top converter boxes by routing content through a phone. Not gonna happen.

And as you mentioned, there are already apps that pay by smartphone, and I don't see that trend slowing down. I also think that physical cards themselves will be more and more a thing of the past. Right now the cards themselves are only necessary because they physically hold the RFID chip that has the account access information in it.

Maybe someday. But you'lll need universal retailer (and other business) support of electronic payment programs like ApplePay, and banks will have to figure out access to ATMs, which right now do not respond to apps, fingerprints or facial scan.

If we go cardless, it'll be a few years. As in ten or more.
 
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Gee, guess I'll have to tell my wife that I have no other choice but to buy that Dodge Dem:devilish:on.
1,025 throbbing horsepower. Zero to 60 in 1.66 seconds. The quarter in 8.9 seconds at 151 miles per hour.

It's you, Kelly.

2023 Challenger SRT Demon 170 Ends Dodge's Era of Excess with 1025-HP V-8



(NOTE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK WE'LL BE FORCED INTO ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS: Yep. Kelly's gonna use ALLLL the dead dinosaurs. Won't be any petroleum left. Blame him, not Gavin Newsom.)
 
Sometimes I feel like we'll encounter a time where all car models will be discontinued, and we'll be reduced to having only one model of each type of car (compact and standard sedans will be called "Car", crossovers, SUVs and minivans will be called "SUV", delivery trucks and full size vans will be called "Van" and pickup trucks will be called "Truck"), and every vehicle of each type will be identical, so nobody will have to compete, and nobody will have to worry about what options to get because there won't be any options; every car will have the same set of standard features.
Okay. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The entire object is to make money. They do that by offering competing products that one-up the other guys and appealing to the vanity of the buyer.
FFS, they didn't even do that in Soviet Russia.
Will never happen. As long as there's a free market, capitalism exists and people need to have a car to get from A to B, there will always be people looking for vehicles to fit their particular situation - Economical family cars, SUVs, "beaters" for getting to/from work, simple no-frills models for the budget conscious, luxury cars, performance vehicles, sports cars, and yes, people who have lots of $$$ (or fake it with a lease they can barely afford) and want to display that wealth by driving an expensive car.
 
Will never happen. As long as there's a free market, capitalism exists and people need to have a car to get from A to B, there will always be people looking for vehicles to fit their particular situation - Economical family cars, SUVs, "beaters" for getting to/from work, simple no-frills models for the budget conscious, luxury cars, performance vehicles, sports cars, and yes, people who have lots of $$$ (or fake it with a lease they can barely afford) and want to display that wealth by driving an expensive car.
In fact, as electrification takes hold and nobody can say "our straight six is smoother than the competition's 2.0-liter turbo four", individualization in styling and feature content will be what separates vehicles and gives them their unique selling propositions. And we're seeing that already. New EVs arriving on the market are increasingly taking styling risks that would have been unimaginable five years ago.
 
1,025 throbbing horsepower. Zero to 60 in 1.66 seconds. The quarter in 8.9 seconds at 151 miles per hour.

It's you, Kelly.

2023 Challenger SRT Demon 170 Ends Dodge's Era of Excess with 1025-HP V-8



(NOTE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK WE'LL BE FORCED INTO ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS: Yep. Kelly's gonna use ALLLL the dead dinosaurs. Won't be any petroleum left. Blame him, not Gavin Newsom.)
Hell Yeah! Give me that 'red key' and a tank of Sunoco 110 Octane. Although my wife pointed out recently, that the Lucid Air Grand Touring she wants could easily kick the Demon's backside.
Sort of like this little EV (note the start):
 
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Hell Yeah! Give me that 'red key' and a tank of Sunoco 110 Octane. Although my wife pointed out recently, that the Lucid Air Grand Touring she wants could easily kick the Demon's backside.
I don't know what your tolerance for sleeping on the couch is, Kelly, but your wife is mistaken.

The Lucid Air Grand Touring has 225 fewer horsepower, weighs 1,000 pounds more, is 1.8 seconds slower to 60 and takes 1.2 seconds longer to do the quarter at a speed six miles an hour below that of the Demon 170.

Even if she bumped up to the Lucid Air Sapphire with 1,200 horsepower (base price $249,000), the Demon is 0.23 seconds quicker to 60 and at least half a second quicker in the quarter.
 
I don't know what your tolerance for sleeping on the couch is, Kelly, but your wife is mistaken.

The Lucid Air Grand Touring has 225 fewer horsepower, weighs 1,000 pounds more, is 1.8 seconds slower to 60 and takes 1.2 seconds longer to do the quarter at a speed six miles an hour below that of the Demon 170.

Even if she bumped up to the Lucid Air Sapphire with 1,200 horsepower (base price $249,000), the Demon is 0.23 seconds quicker to 60 and at least half a second quicker in the quarter.
This reminds me of the time I spent waiting for some things to be added to my lowly Macan which I spent looking at the ones in the $150 g's and up prices. I know that the largest expense on one of them would involve traffic court and insurance premiums.

And my favorite is:

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