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NPR temporarily stopped it's twitter accounts in a "state-media" beef with Elon Musk

All good points.

How much interference would you want in your media? I'm honestly asking.
I guess it depends on what you consider to be interference.

Technically, a referee in a prize fight is interference. A person that both parties agree has the power to enforce rules they both agree upon. Without some basic ground rules and someone to enforce them, a fight would wind up a bloody mess with the loser getting hurt or killed.

Obviously if I had the perfect answer I'd be long since retired and not have to show up to work in the morning, but when it comes to broadcast media in the US we had a pretty good thing going with regards to guard rails and referees for a few decades. If you wanted to go on a major news network and claim that a Senate candidate liked to have sex with Cornish Hens, the other guy would be given the same opportunity to refute the claims.

Now you've got a cable host who can freely say "I'm not saying the candidate has a thing for poultry...I'm just asking questions" and the network is under no obligation to have a ref step in and stop the fight.
 
I guess it depends on what you consider to be interference.

Technically, a referee in a prize fight is interference. A person that both parties agree has the power to enforce rules they both agree upon. Without some basic ground rules and someone to enforce them, a fight would wind up a bloody mess with the loser getting hurt or killed.

Obviously if I had the perfect answer I'd be long since retired and not have to show up to work in the morning, but when it comes to broadcast media in the US we had a pretty good thing going with regards to guard rails and referees for a few decades. If you wanted to go on a major news network and claim that a Senate candidate liked to have sex with Cornish Hens, the other guy would be given the same opportunity to refute the claims.

Now you've got a cable host who can freely say "I'm not saying the candidate has a thing for poultry...I'm just asking questions" and the network is under no obligation to have a ref step in and stop the fight.
Back during the era of the Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time Rules. And neither were that overreaching either.

While its unreasonable to expect a return to the 7-7-7 ownership limit, the status quo isn't so great now. If you own a boatload of stations in a city, and you still can't pay the bills with advertising, maybe that business model isn't working either.

I like AM, but by and large, it's a useless band now. DX-ing signals is fun for me, but that doesn't keep the lights on, and most of these signals should go dark or migrate to FM. If it's crowded, expand the band to 76 MHz (yeah, yeah, it can't work--whatever). Use translators on the standard FM band until the infrastructure gets built out. That, or be online or app only, giving a sunset date for those 250 w translators.

Speaking of translators, there are more simulcasts of Relevant Radio than the North Korean State Broadcasting Service (KCBS). Here's an idea: get an area wide signal and use that instead of this patchwork of translators that clutter up the band. Of course that would just make sense. Hell, with so many commercial stations selling out (because they run their properties so darned well), and EMF reaching every nook and cranny of this great land of ours, that might actually happen.

It's sad that an industry I care for has been trashed by some of the brightest minds of the business. Radio and TV should be better mediums for advertising and marketing, rather than ceding it so easily to Facebook, Twitter, and Google.
 
Back during the era of the Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time Rules. And neither were that overreaching either.
The Fairness Doctrine was a fallacy, and ultimately proved to be neither fair, nor a doctrine. In fact, the beginnings of extreme religion or politically-radical radio started during that time. If you'd like to learn more; have a listen to Part 1 of The Divided Dial from The NY Times: The Divided Dial: Episode 1 - The True Believers | On the Media | WNYC Studios

While its unreasonable to expect a return to the 7-7-7 ownership limit, the status quo isn't so great now. If you own a boatload of stations in a city, and you still can't pay the bills with advertising, maybe that business model isn't working either.
I don't think there's any talk of 'not being able to pay bills', but the media model that relies on advertising, both digital and traditional, has been seeing particularly strong headwinds, really since the 2008 recession.
I like AM, but by and large, it's a useless band now.
And I argue that the band hasn't reached useless yet, but the audience has been aging-out with no new listeners joining. And really, that's a problem with radio and TV in general; Wall Street doesn't pay attention to radio stocks because few see a future for traditional media, when it comes to any potential for growth.
DX-ing signals is fun for me, but that doesn't keep the lights on, and most of these signals should go dark or migrate to FM.
But that's the problem: There's no more space on FM to migrate all those signals. And since consumers stopped buying new radios twenty years ago, there would be no point of expanding the FM band to accommodate such a migration.
If it's crowded, expand the band to 76 MHz (yeah, yeah, it can't work--whatever). Use translators on the standard FM band until the infrastructure gets built out. That, or be online or app only, giving a sunset date for those 250 w translators.
See my point above. If nobody buys new radios, then do you really think a station can survive stranded on an island where few listen?
Speaking of translators, there are more simulcasts of Relevant Radio than the North Korean State Broadcasting Service (KCBS). Here's an idea: get an area wide signal and use that instead of this patchwork of translators that clutter up the band. Of course that would just make sense. Hell, with so many commercial stations selling out (because they run their properties so darned well), and EMF reaching every nook and cranny of this great land of ours, that might actually happen.
In Europe, that call that DAB. For the reasons I mentioned above regarding consumer electronics habits, that hasn't worked so well.
It's sad that an industry I care for has been trashed by some of the brightest minds of the business. Radio and TV should be better mediums for advertising and marketing, rather than ceding it so easily to Facebook, Twitter, and Google.
So you're saying it's these brightest minds who caused consumers to migrate toward social media and streaming? Seriously?
What about that thing called the public Internet? What about smartphones?
 
But every post they make has this negative label on it. Would you be willing to post here if every post you made had a label on it that said 'The person posting is a liar.' Wouldn't that bother you?
I don't see any of this much any more, but when people I went to high school with would post something on Facebook that supported their political views, in the final years when I would see these, it would come with a warning put here by Facebook.

But I was unfriended by those people.
 
I don't think there's any talk of 'not being able to pay bills', but the media model that relies on advertising, both digital and traditional, has been seeing particularly strong headwinds, really since the 2008 recession.
Seriously Kelly? Audacy, Cumulus, and iHeart constantly skating near bankruptcy. It's not a growth industry, that's for sure.

And I argue that the band hasn't reached useless yet, but the audience has been aging-out with no new listeners joining. And really, that's a problem with radio and TV in general; Wall Street doesn't pay attention to radio stocks because few see a future for traditional media, when it comes to any potential for growth.
From what I read here, and from some of your other posts, it sure sounds like you are considering it useless. Not only is AM not growing, it's withering, and not likely to come back.

But that's the problem: There's no more space on FM to migrate all those signals. And since consumers stopped buying new radios twenty years ago, there would be no point of expanding the FM band to accommodate such a migration.
Well then, if there's no more space to migrate to FM, and no one buying radios, than why doesn't AM bite the bullet and migrate off the dial and onto the web already? I threw the expansion idea as a bone, and most people here shoot that idea down like a Korean airliner over Russian airspace.

Where I live there are at least six places on the FM dial that simulcast Relevant radio. A true waste of a resource, as most could be heard throughout the market. Oh, of course they can be heard clearly online too. I guess all these stations are used for fundraising, and legal expenses for the Catholic church.

See my point above. If nobody buys new radios, then do you really think a station can survive stranded on an island where few listen?
It sounds like you want this both ways. If no one is buying radios, than who the hell is listening to terrestrial stations now anyway? I realize that AI will be voicetracking. Maybe they can market to a certain AI demographic instead of people. Like 2001's 'Hal' from the Windows 98/XP/Vista era.

In Europe, that call that DAB. For the reasons I mentioned above regarding consumer electronics habits, that hasn't worked so well.

So you're saying it's these brightest minds who caused consumers to migrate toward social media and streaming? Seriously?
What about that thing called the public Internet? What about smartphones?
After a couple of decades, DAB, like HD here, isn't doing so well, or as intended. God love those Europeans and Australians for trying though.

It's clear that the brightest minds aren't in terrestrial Radio or Television these days. Stevie Wonder can see that.
 
Apparently today Musk is shutting off bot access. National Weather Service offices and Bay Area Rapid Transit are reporting on Mastodon that they're unable to post automated tweets containing various alerts, including weather warnings.
 
Apparently today Musk is shutting off bot access. National Weather Service offices and Bay Area Rapid Transit are reporting on Mastodon that they're unable to post automated tweets containing various alerts, including weather warnings.
You know, iPhones, and I guess Androids have that feature, all by themselves. No need for Elon.

If you're not afraid of using a weather radio, Midland makes a nice one that clocks in around $30. Usually found in grocery stores. Gets all National Weather Service channels. It could be a lifesaver. Setting a police scanner for active ham nets that use storm spotters for those even more fearless of using a radio.

In late 2021 on my drive home from work, my phone WX alert went off for a tornado warning. Tuned into a local station--WSMI: "The Station You Can Count On." Well, not that night, as I heard lots of country favorites instead of information I could count on. Then I tuned into Audacy's KMOX, "The Voice Of St. Louis." Instead of local weather from their staff, they plugged in audio from a local TV station.

That night, a tornado killed people in St. Charles county, MO, and several at the Amazon warehouse in Madison county, IL

That night, broadcast radio was an epic fail. As far as I'm concerned, it was useless as F**k. Unnecessarily so.

And right now, our area is under a tornado warning (6:23 CDT).
 

Maine Public the NPR and PBS affiliate in the state of Maine has stepped away from Twitter to support their respective networks.
 

Ok I got another one Elon Musk is going to be questioned by the Senate over privacy issues at Tesla over customer records.

It's all in a circle run and look for this Senate meeting and look for lawsuits at all of Elon Musk's companies from Twitter, Tesla and SpaceX with no direct proof leading it back to a reporter at NPR or PBS. All of the reporters I seen leads back to either the Associated Press or Reuters.


Ok we are going in the direction of Central Park 5 type event here with this one involving Musk.
 
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Ok I got another one Elon Musk is going to be questioned by the Senate over privacy issues at Tesla over customer records.

It's all in a circle run and look for this Senate meeting and look for lawsuits at all of Elon Musk's companies from Twitter, Tesla and SpaceX with no direct proof leading it back to a reporter at NPR or PBS. All of the reporters I seen leads back to either the Associated Press or Reuters.


Ok we are going in the direction of Central Park 5 type event here with this one involving Musk.
This is when you hall Elon into Congress and grill him.
But will they, or will the Democratic Senators shrug their shoulders and slink away like they usually do.
 
Seriously Kelly? Audacy, Cumulus, and iHeart constantly skating near bankruptcy.
Name any media stock that's top of it's game. Just because a stock trades low, doesn't mean it's close to insolvency, no more than any station group success is measured by a single station' 6+ ratings.
It's not a growth industry, that's for sure.
Nope, hasn't been since 2007
From what I read here, and from some of your other posts, it sure sounds like you are considering it useless. Not only is AM not growing, it's withering, and not likely to come back.
Learning from the past, I'd say it's on a track similar to SW.
Well then, if there's no more space to migrate to FM, and no one buying radios, than why doesn't AM bite the bullet and migrate off the dial and onto the web already?
Most of the major syndicated shows carried on AM are also available on-line. Evolution of any media source isn't binary on/off. Eventually when the AM band ages-out completely and it simply can't support itself through advertising.
I threw the expansion idea as a bone, and most people here shoot that idea down like a Korean airliner over Russian airspace.

Where I live there are at least six places on the FM dial that simulcast Relevant radio. A true waste of a resource, as most could be heard throughout the market. Oh, of course they can be heard clearly online too. I guess all these stations are used for fundraising, and legal expenses for the Catholic church.
As it is with any public or religious radio. The more coverage, the better the chance you have to find donors. Religious radio groups are the only ones with free cash available these days to buy up stations. I've sold two of my stations to religious organizations.
It sounds like you want this both ways. If no one is buying radios, than who the hell is listening to terrestrial stations now anyway?
Nobody is buying radios, because they already have them, in their car, kitchen, wherever. Expanding the band means either consumers have to replace their existing radios to hear the new frontier, or like FM-HD, it takes 20+ years for 10% the general public to find it, when they eventually purchase a new car that has the expanded band. If you're a radio station owner who migrated to some expanded band, you can expect to have no listeners for potentially 10 to 20 years? Radio has become a bad enough business model anyway. Spending hundreds of thousands of millions to move to a band where nobody goes, is a terribly bad idea.
I realize that AI will be voicetracking. Maybe they can market to a certain AI demographic instead of people. Like 2001's 'Hal' from the Windows 98/XP/Vista era.
HAL from 2001 was from 1969. Windows XP/Vista was in the 90's. Please explain how AI will be voice-tracking. This should be interesting.
After a couple of decades, DAB, like HD here, isn't doing so well, or as intended. God love those Europeans and Australians for trying though.
But what you suggested was essentially a DAB model.
It's clear that the brightest minds aren't in terrestrial Radio or Television these days. Stevie Wonder can see that.
So, in your view, smartphones, streaming, or changing consumer habits have nothing to do with it?
 
Apparently today Musk is shutting off bot access. National Weather Service offices and Bay Area Rapid Transit are reporting on Mastodon that they're unable to post automated tweets containing various alerts, including weather warnings.
Thar's the API, which third-party schedulers can tap into. Now Elon wants $42000 for that access so brands that pre-schedule content, National Weather Service, individual meteorologists, etc won't be able to tweet out automated warnings. (Russian bots, and "reply guys" who auto-tweet "oh yeah, you're a commie!" may be under a different program
 

Ok then Elon Musk does a rant to rile up the right wing in 2024.


Here we go with Elon's Musk rants on Twitter and allegations of Racism involving Musk Directly.



Musk is slated to speak on April 18 at the Possible conference from MMA Global, the premier digital marketing association. He’ll be interviewed by NBCU ad chief Linda Yaccarino and make the case that advertisers — who have abandoned Twitter because they don’t believe it’s a safe place to advertise — should return.

But a private email thread among the organization’s board members, obtained by Semafor, suggests he will face a skeptical audience. Top advertisers, including McDonald's and Colgate-Palmolive, are concerned that Musk's comments about race and the platform's openness to racist speech have rendered Twitter toxic.

“For many communities, his willingness to leverage success and personal financial resources to further an agenda under the guise of freedom of speech is perpetuating racism resulting [in] direct threats to their communities and a potential for brand safety compromise we should all be concerned about,” wrote McDonald’s chief marketing and customer experience officer, Tariq Hassan. “Further, all of us who lead our brand's investments across platforms were required to navigate a situation post-acquisition that objectively can only be characterized as ranging from chaos to moments of irresponsibility.”
 
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Seems like it would be easier for NPR to just use their NPR website for what NPR used to tweet.

I cancelled cable about 4 years ago, I just use links to the local TV stations, broadcast networks and cable news channels + the 2 major search engine news options to find out whats going on locally and worldwide.

NPR could just put continuously updated text stories (+ some short videos if needed for the story) on their web site (and have total control over the content, it wouldn't be subject to 3rd party content restrictions) and shut down their national radio network and related audio services.


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Absolutely! Once they cut off all those NPR affiliates that pay them money, they can buy AM radio stations ready to turn in their licenses. This would supplement the lost coverage of having no affiliates caring their programing.

NPR has total control of their content and they save AM radio! Who would have know NPR would be AM's new savior. Mark Levin could even partner with them. This could be HUGE!
 
Absolutely! Once they cut off all those NPR affiliates that pay them money, they can buy AM radio stations ready to turn in their licenses. This would supplement the lost coverage of having no affiliates caring their programing.

NPR has total control of their content and they save AM radio! Who would have know NPR would be AM's new savior. Mark Levin could even partner with them. This could be HUGE!
If I know anything about NPR listeners, it’s that they will go to extreme lengths to seek out their desired programming. Listeners will seek out a scratchy signal from another city because they feel that the content is better or more independent.
 
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