This literal-mindedness makes my head hurt.
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A PSA by definition is not paid for. It is a public service for a community or national non-profit. A paid for announcement by a non-profit organization is just another ad, witness the Kars for Kids assault on our intelligence.
I was joking. Kars vs. walking…
One can... and has for decades... talked about sex and relationships on the radio. Dr. Ruth, Bill Ballance and all the "Loveline" and friends shows did that legally by simply not using vulgar terms for "acts and organs".
A particular movie line comes to mind: "Serious injury book is a red book, that book is blue."
Effects of the full red moon? I am now looking out my windows for werewolves or vampires. Maybe both.
In my example; a movie starring Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise.
Dr. Ruth & Ballance talked about relationships. Not about the underworld of pornography, human trafficking, slavery, and the kidnapping, rape, abuse, and exploitation of minor children.
There’s no moral equivalence between Dr. Ruth and PornHub, the huge aggregator of pornography.
This thread has been going on for 3 weeks, getting more sordid by the day. 🙁 You’re right, I don’t have to read it. But it is beneath the dignity of you and Frank, who are distinguished broadcasters. And there is no possible moral equivalence between this topic and Dr. Ruth — or even Bill Ballance, who was smitten with Laura Schlesinger. That’s not interesting to the OP.
Exactly. Not all talk about sex, sexual health, or social issues in general, is considered porn. Far from it.
As you mentioned; Porn has a track record of human exploitation including rape, illegal drugs, and prostitution. What's offensive, is someone thinking extremely foul and violent language, exploitation, rape, and abuse, along with promoting illegal drug use would be somehow suitable for radio.
I’m still here reading thru all this stuff. Gotta be honest tho, this threads gone longer than I thought it wood.
Respectfully, I've found nothing about this particular discussion thread to be "sordid" and it's certainly not "beneath the dignity"of our moderators. The Radio Discussions website is here to discuss most every aspect of Radio and TV Broadcasting. That includes potential format ideas and content and that may include discussions of adult content. David has done a decent job of steering it back when it's gone too far off the rails, but other than that, several viable topics and points have been introduced and discussed within this thread. They may not be your cup of tea and you may not personally like or agree with some of the subject matter, but that doesn't mean it's not an acceptable discussion topic here.
Regarding the thread's topic, as others have mentioned, there have been channels on SiriusXM in the past featuring porn actors, interviews with them and opportunities to ask them questions. If considering TV, some here may remember the TV program "Talk Sex with Sue Johanson" that ran on Oxygen TV in the US for I believe about 6 or 7 years. Sue was a was a Canadian sex therapist in her 70s who was an RN. Her TV program developed a cult following as it was a litle old lady taking questions from callers, explaining how certain techniques were done, and doing demonstrations of things like sex toys and proper condom application using props, her hands and other means which got her message across without being lewd or crude. She became so popular she found herself a featured guest on late night network TV talk shows in the US and yet despite her popularity, I'm sure Oxygen and the various CATV providers that carried her show probably got plenty of hate mail for sure from people who didn't particularly appreciated it. Such is life.
The "hungry i" in San Francisco has, in recent years, been notorious for being one of those strip clubs on Broadway in North Beach. But, much earlier, when it was more part of nightclub culture and a place where many comedians got their start, it was the home of "Les Crane at the hungry i", a pioneering late-night talk show on KGO radio, starting in 1960, but dropped a few years later. An article by Bob MacKenzie* in the Oakland Tribune in 1967 recounted the earlier days of the program, where Crane said:
Our first hungry i show wasn't what you'd call a smash. Nobody knew what we were doing. I went on the air and explained that listeners could call in and talk, and gave the phone number. Then we waited. And waited. 11 minutes went by. Not a ring. ... Finally the phone rang and I grabbed it. "What do you want to say?" I asked the guy. He said, "Nothing, man, I just felt sorry for you."
(Oakland Tribune, May 18, 1967 - in an online archive behind a paywall)
A 1962 program listing, also in the Tribune, indicates that the lead-ins for Crane's show on KGO were, in the 10 o'clock hour, "Back to the Bible" and "Air Mail from God". What a combination that must have been.
(*MacKenzie later became a feature reporter for KTVU, possibly one of the few times that a radio-TV writer for a newspaper flipped the script and went into TV!)
Our first hungry i show wasn't what you'd call a smash. Nobody knew what we were doing. I went on the air and explained that listeners could call in and talk, and gave the phone number. Then we waited. And waited. 11 minutes went by. Not a ring. ... Finally the phone rang and I grabbed it. "What do you want to say?" I asked the guy. He said, "Nothing, man, I just felt sorry for you."
(Oakland Tribune, May 18, 1967 - in an online archive behind a paywall)
A 1962 program listing, also in the Tribune, indicates that the lead-ins for Crane's show on KGO were, in the 10 o'clock hour, "Back to the Bible" and "Air Mail from God". What a combination that must have been.
(*MacKenzie later became a feature reporter for KTVU, possibly one of the few times that a radio-TV writer for a newspaper flipped the script and went into TV!)
Wait, this is in reference to something that happened in 1967??
And is this the same "hungry i" that the Kingston Trio recorded their "Live from the hungry i" album at back in the '60s?
Crane had a fill-in spot on the KGO morning show that week. The relevance to this thread is about what the hungry i became. It was either that, or get annoyed at some of the Church Lady stuff that makes its way into this discussion every so often.
Most likely.
If this is in reference to me, I'm not the Church Lady. Liberal Dem here. I'm not particularly religious, certainly not an evangelical, and I don't think the issue has anything to do with being "sinful" or "naughty" in a Sunday School sense.
Not an issue of sin.
Issue is about human trafficking and brutalization.
Off topic.
Yes, because the hungry i in North Beach, an old Italian neighborhood in downtown San Francisco, was one of the centers of the counter-culture revolution. It goes back to the 50's, to the beatnik culture. The beats were the precursors to the hippies.
These coffeehouses/ nightclubs became a lot more commercial when they started booking folk music acts who were signed with big labels, which drew audiences of tourists. Kingston Trio w/ Capitol, Joan Baez with Vanguard, Smothers Brothers w/ Mercury, etc. .
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