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How’s 96.9 KAYO doin, the rest in South Sound?

Minor correction. KAYO is located in Wasilla, Alaska. KYYO is formerly KGY-FM. I know call letters aren't a strong point for some...
 
I live in Lakewood(near Tacoma), and I bought an HD Radio(a tabletop model at Best Buy last year; I had one of the Walkman-type HD Radios from Insignia that I got at a Habitat for Humanity store, but it only lasted a few months...

Anyhow, from where I live I actually can get four Canadian stations(depending on how I adjust the antenna); CFMI 101.1 in Vancouver(which comes in decently; but it depends on the antenna), Jack FM in Victoria, B.C.(I think it's 103.1; which I can get pretty good reception), and I think once in a while 94.5 out of Vancouver... as well as 100.3 FM in Victoria, B.C.(which comes in fairly decently, depending on the antenna).
Are you getting those Canadian FM stations in HD? Or just analog FM.
 
He’s probably only hearing the digital carrier. Analog 101.1 is a mess, and analog 94.5 is occupied by a weak KRXY. The digital carrier of a strong HD can slip through every so often. Kind of a strange phenomenon.
How do you hear a digital carrier, though? Either you're hearing the station in analog, or you hear the HD kick in. Maybe he's referring to the HD indicator blinking?

I can tell when HD1 kicks in on my Sangean HDR-16. You can hear the difference in sound quality.
 
How do you hear a digital carrier, though? Either you're hearing the station in analog, or you hear the HD kick in. Maybe he's referring to the HD indicator blinking?

I can tell when HD1 kicks in on my Sangean HDR-16. You can hear the difference in sound quality.
I probably didn’t describe it right. From what I’ve seen, it’s technically possible to be listening to a radio station on its analog frequency, and then hear an entirely different radio station on the HD-1 and HD-2. This scenario seems like it would defy logic, but there are examples of it happening online. There are plenty of folks from the DX community on radio discussions who may have experienced this for themselves.

To give a more concrete example: you could be listing to the FM translator of KKXA on 101.1, and since there is no HD, a HD receiver could pick up the HD signal from CFMI. Bizarre, but it’s not impossible.
 
I probably didn’t describe it right. From what I’ve seen, it’s technically possible to be listening to a radio station on its analog frequency, and then hear an entirely different radio station on the HD-1 and HD-2. This scenario seems like it would defy logic, but there are examples of it happening online. There are plenty of folks from the DX community on radio discussions who may have experienced this for themselves.

I lived 1 1/2 miles from W233BS 94.5 Saint Marys, PA.. 250 watts on a 300 some odd foot tower

I semi regularly had WNED 94.5 Buffalo, NY's HD1 lock from 110 miles away

And once, I had KTBZ 94.5 Houston lock in HD
transitioning betrween KTBZ's rock and W233BS's adult standards, fairly smoothly too, was a trip
 
He’s probably only hearing the digital carrier. Analog 101.1 is a mess, and analog 94.5 is occupied by a weak KRXY. The digital carrier of a strong HD can slip through every so often. Kind of a strange phenomenon.
On analog radio 94.5 is always KRXY and 101.1 won’t get in CFMI on analog radio.
 
It’s too bad that 96.9 doesn’t subscribe, because it would be fun to see how they perform. Truly, KAYO is a very good station. They’ve got a great mixture of music, an excellent lineup of programming, and a local feel. Not to mention, their signal covers the south sound pretty well. It’s not going to make much of a dent in the the PPM (as the contour only hits a small portion of the market), but I suspect they do better than some would think.

I’d be willing to bet that a lot of country listeners in the south sound listen to both 100.7 and 96.9.
Probably similar to how 102.9 NOW performed which probably would have been within the high 3 share if it were included in South Sound radio ratings. Plus that station gets in pretty well there as a Mexican station now. Probably would be in the mid-2 share by now.
 
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Probably similar to how 102.9 NOW performed which probably would have been within the high 3 share if it were included in South Sound radio ratings.
If the station wasn't included in any form of ratings, how would you make that assumption?
Plus that station gets in pretty well there as a Mexican station now. Probably would be in the mid-2 share by now.
Again, where do you come up with these assumptions based on zero data?
 
The last numbers I saw for 102.9, it was around a 0.5 I think. The highest I ever saw it was at a 1.2, so I'm not sure where Jack gets his numbers. If ratings within markets are broken out by county for subscribing stations, Jack's assumption might be correct, but that information isn't anything anyone on this board would have access to.
 
Probably similar to how 102.9 NOW performed which probably would have been within the high 3 share if it were included in South Sound radio ratings.
I doubt that very much. The station was owned by iHeartMedia, and as I recall the only local content on it was the advertising -- it otherwise sounded pretty much identical to 102.9 NOW in Dallas/Fort Worth (KDMX). I'm guessing that if iHeartMedia had felt that the ratings had a good story to tell for this station, they would have shared those ratings. For that matter, they probably would have retained the format longer than they did. That it even existed for any time at all was almost certainly because the entirely voice-tracked format had a very low overhead.
 
The issue with Now 102.9 is that it was more or less a placeholder format. I don’t think iHeart ever really knew what they wanted to do with that frequency, and therefore, it ended up being sold off as soon as they acquired better assets from the CBS sale. The programming was never tailored to the south sound, and it never offered anything unique or hyper-local. Listeners who want AC can tune into 106.9, but they can also tune into 96.1 if they want something more local. This wasn’t the case with 102.9.
 
The issue with Now 102.9 is that it was more or less a placeholder format. I don’t think iHeart ever really knew what they wanted to do with that frequency, and therefore, it ended up being sold off as soon as they acquired better assets from the CBS sale. The programming was never tailored to the south sound, and it never offered anything unique or hyper-local. Listeners who want AC can tune into 106.9, but they can also tune into 96.1 if they want something more local. This wasn’t the case with 102.9.
Usually 96.1 did the local AC format. 102.9 was more syndicated.
 
But it's ultimately who plays Christmas music around the holidays that make the difference.. ;)
I wish KRWM or somebody would get with the times and run Halloween music all Halloween day,
 
I wish KRWM or somebody would get with the times and run Halloween music all Halloween day,
If there were an equivalent amount of popular Halloween music as there is Christmas music, I could totally see some station trying that stunt. Just as with XMAS sales packages around the Holidays, I could see the AE's tasked with selling a full day or two of Halloween music packages. The problem is; you can't play Ray Parker Junior/Ghostbusters and Bobby Boris Pickett/Monster Mash over and over for two days.
 
The Music Choice channel does a pretty good job of picking Halloween music, I don't see why a commercial station couldn't follow that template.
 
The Music Choice channel does a pretty good job of picking Halloween music, I don't see why a commercial station couldn't follow that template.
I think it’s cause some of the people who listen to these stations are children and they don’t want to play anything too scary or that won’t work for families such as kids Halloween music that is only meant for kids. Depends on the station though.
 
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