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ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels dropped from DirecTV in contract dispute

Its DirecTV stream that doesn't. DirecTV satellite still has it (folks who use a satellite dish to get DirecTV).
Okay. I have DirecTV satellite tv
 
Nope, see Mr. Tony's post. If it's an ABC station, you won't see it as a subscriber of DirecTV.
I have the satellite DirecTV. Not the stream
 
I refuse to attempt to contribute further. Argue amongst yourselves.

(clicks "Unwatch" at the top of the thread.)
 
Incorrect. On DirecTV streaming all the ABC affiliates are off. I have Hubbard owned KSTP and it's blocked on DirecTV streaming. My mom has satellite and they still have KSTP.
Okay, this is something (outside of radio) that I know.

Retransmission consent applies by station licensee, not by network affiliation. That is why all of Disney's O&Os are affected by the dispute with DirecTV. Here in California, the blackout affects the Los Angeles, San Francisco and Fresno markets, because in those three, Disney owns its affiliate station. Elsewhere:

Santa Barbara: KEYT/3, unaffected. San Diego: KGTV/10, also not affected. Nor is Palm Springs (KESQ/42), Bakersfield (KERO/23), Sacramento (KXTV/10) or Chico/Redding (KRCR/7). The reason: Disney does not own them and retransmission consent negotiations take place with the individual station ownership groups. (For example, if E.W. Scripps had a breakdown in talks resulting in a similar blackout, all of their stations, regardless of affiliation, would be affected, not just KGTV. They own several stations affiliated with CBS, Fox and NBC ... and a ton of Ion affiliates. In a blackout, every one of them would be affected.)
Even though I'm in LA, I also have a DirecTV stream account from my San Diego rental, and KGTV is indeed blocked when I log in.
 
This isn't that hard to understand. If Disney owns the channel it's blocked. If it's owned by Nexstar, Grey, Sinclair, whoever it's not blocked.
 
This isn't that hard to understand. If Disney owns the channel it's blocked. If it's owned by Nexstar, Grey, Sinclair, whoever it's not blocked.

That is not consistent with first-hand experiences posted here.

In fact, the post right above yours says KGTV/10 in San Diego is blocked from the DirecTV stream. As I pointed out a few dozen posts back, that station is owned by Scripps, not Disney. So it is not as simple as you erroneously stated.

(So much for me not participating further.)
 
That is not consistent with first-hand experiences posted here.

In fact, the post right above yours says KGTV/10 in San Diego is blocked from the DirecTV stream. As I pointed out a few dozen posts back, that station is owned by Scripps, not Disney. So it is not as simple as you erroneously stated.

(So much for me not participating further.)
In that case expect major lawsuits as there are certainly contracts being violated.
 
In that case expect major lawsuits as there are certainly contracts being violated.

Without being a subscriber, I can see one scenario where DirecTV may have an exception in writing in place that applies.

For all we know, there may be a clause which allows them to block network programming on the stream -- regardless of originating station -- if a blackout is in force for that network's O&O stations. Of course, to test that theory we would need to know if ABC 10News San Diego (for example) is also blocked.
 
In that case expect major lawsuits as there are certainly contracts being violated.
No contracts are being violated. The three big networkss got agreements from their affiliates in 2016 and 2017 to allow the networks to represent them exclusively for streaming providers such as Sling and DirecTV Stream

Here's coverage of such an agreement by CBS:
 
No contracts are being violated. The three big networkss got agreements from their affiliates in 2016 and 2017 to allow the networks to represent them exclusively for streaming providers such as Sling and DirecTV Stream

Here's coverage of such an agreement by CBS:
Streaming is a different animal all together. People are claiming that their local affiliates are being blocked out not owned by Disney.
 
Streaming is a different animal all together. People are claiming that their local affiliates are being blocked out not owned by Disney.

Ahem.

Even though I'm in LA, I also have a DirecTV stream account from my San Diego rental, and KGTV is indeed blocked when I log in.

Streaming is what we were talking about when you made your "contracts are being violated" post in response to Neel. From the article that BoardOp linked to (thank you for that!), we now know there is indeed contract language allowing DirecTV to do this.
 
So if you are streaming do you not get local news and programming?

From reading the linked article, I conclude that such agreements with the affiliates means their carriage on streaming platforms are controlled by the negotiations made by the network, so yes, such a blackout is total. The network affiliates are treated as if they were O&Os.

This whole mess makes me very thankful for OTA. I am not dependent on DirecTV or Spectrum to watch KABC-TV.
 

There's the other reason why cable companies keep running into contract disputes some of this can be factored on the audience size on the cable channels have decreased in the past 10 years. For Disney specifically their cable channels shrank dramatically and some of this is from Disney itself and it's aggressive campaign to protect their TV apps like Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+.

Without favorites like “The Walking Dead” or “Better Call Saul,” AMC’s prime-time viewership sunk 73%. The Disney Channel, birthplace to young stars like Miley Cyrus, Hilary Duff and Selena Gomez, lost an astonishing 93% of its audience, from 1.96 million in 2014 to 132,000 last year.

TBS, TNT, History, Lifetime, FX, A&E, BET, E! Entertainment, SyFy, Comedy Central, VH1 and Discovery have all lost at least half of their 2014 audience.
 
Without requoting the stuff in Y2k's post, one would think that Disney (and the rest of the network conglomerates) is in an inferior bargaining position with cable/satellite.

It seems that most of the referenced cable networks could disappear and 90% of the subscribers wouldn't notice. This is the undoing of the "cable explosion" of the 80s and 90s.
 
Streaming is a different animal all together. People are claiming that their local affiliates are being blocked out not owned by Disney.
It is. My ABC is owned by Hubbard Broadcasting and it is blacked out on Directv Stream. If you have Directv Satellite it is NOT blacked out. Reasons have been listed above.
 
So who are you paying carriage fees too?

Generally speaking, carriage fees are passed on by the cable or satellite provider. Not having been a subscriber for a couple of decades now, I couldn't tell you if they are itemized on the bill or not. I dimly recall that "back in the day" they were not.
 
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