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Scripps News Shutting Down OTA

For example: how many ads on espn or other competing networks for other streaming services? I’ve seen several ads for Peacock on espn, same with paramount plus. Why can’t for profit news organizations advertise?

They do but their ads are usually internal or co-op with some other service. Peacock is owned by Universal and Comcast, so you'll see their ads on co-owned cable channels or if you use Comcast. Scripps ran their ads on Ion. Not as many people see Ion.
 
Otherwise KILM, WCLJ, WFPX, WDLI and WSFJ could put HSN on them.

That's another option
Well, it might be another option, but for the ones that are carried as subchannels on Ion stations (and aren't carried by any other station in the market), they can carry HSN (or HSN2 if HSN is already on there)
 
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I have seen ads on KNXV 15 for Scripps News during the 11 AM newscast and they would say at the end of the ad that it's on 51.4 and can be streamed on these services with a list of FAST services. Also, KASW 61 airs Scripps News Morning Rush in the morning and Scripps News Live at 1 PM.
I only ever saw ads for Scripps News on KSHB’s newscasts, since it’s a Scripps station. I watch YouTube a lot and have seen localized ads, but never a Scripps News ad there.
 
So they go to the internet and social media where there are no standards, no responsibility, and ALL opinion based news. But now they can pick the news they want to believe. How has that helped media trust or the health of the country? People say they don't trust the media because it has opinion, but that's the only news that gets an audience. That's why Scripps is shutting down.
The evening news has no opinion and those still get great ratings. To say covering the news straightforward cant be profitable or that people dont care about that essentially which is what your implying is a really irresponsible statement and it shows your own opinion being brought into a topic not a fact..... furthermore if you read the articles on this you would see that the channels audience is growing and that ratings have nothing to do with channels closure..... They are ceasing the ota channels because they are having trouble selling ads during a divisive political climate and advertisers arent wanting to get involved in that. Scripps News is shutting down, another victim of the TV news business downturn So this shows people are watching they do want un opinionated news and that advertisers are the ones with the issue.
 
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The evening news has no opinion and those still get great ratings. To say covering the news straightforward cant be profitable or that people dont care about that essentially which is what your implying is a really irresponsible statement and it shows your own opinion being brought into a topic not a fact.....

It's irresponsible to tell me what I'm saying when I didn't say anything like that. We weren't talking at all about evening news.

Message boards are all about opinion. You just posted your opinion about what I said, and called it irresponsible. That's your opinion.
 
It's irresponsible to tell me what I'm saying when I didn't say anything like that. We weren't talking at all about evening news.

Message boards are all about opinion. You just posted your opinion about what I said, and called it irresponsible. That's your opinion.
Its irresponsible to make a statement coming off as fact about why these channels are shutting down such as people don't like un opinionated news and that's why its not successful and shutting down when that's factually inaccurate sir. Scripps is not shutting these channels down to a decreasing audience. The audience is growing which shows people do want un opinionated news that is straightforward. You specifically said why scripps is shutting down scripps news is because the audience says they don't trust the media because it has opinion, but that's the only news that gets an audience. That's why Scripps is shutting down the channels. If you read the article you will see that the audience for scripps news has been increasing and that shows that people do like un opionated news therefor not the reason it is shutting down as you stated. Your implying the reason scripps news cant be successful is because its not opinionated news.... But that has nothing to do with it and that's what I'm pointing out and will continue to do so.
Furthermore here is a direct reason from the article scripps made the decision they did its because advertisers dont want to get involved in polarized subjects at this time apparently.
"Many brands and agencies have decided that advertising around national news is just too risky for them given the polarized nature of this country, no matter the accolades and credentials a news organization like Scripps receives for its objectivity,” Symson said. “I vehemently disagree, but it is hurting Scripps News, along with every other national linear and digital news outlet.”
My point is its not that the audience hasn't been growing and there isn't a want for unbiased news its that the advertisers don't want to get involved.....
 
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I watched when it was NEWSY on Charter Spectrum from time to time when it moved to OTA I didn't watch it. Wasn't on WXMI Fox17 subchannel was on WZPX subchannel DT6 or DT7, last year in the fall of 2023 has aired Scripps News at 1PM to 1:30PM & 7PM to 7:30PM I wonder if those shows will be dropped for a full hour of ICrime 1PM to 2PM, Modern Family or Two & Half Men 7PM to 7:30PM come Nov, 18. Although Fox17 does air E/I show at 1PM Mon.
 
What earthly good does it do to speculate about what an individual station will replace it with? To them, it's no different than any other program ending its run and having to be replaced on the schedule.
 
I made myself a page of news links (and some other links I commonly use), I don't watch the news on OTA TV (I cancelled cable 5 years ago):

I use the local TV and national TV news web sites like I use a newspaper, I rarely watch Scripps News on KSHB TV

I prefer reading the news stories rather than watching the short videos from the news programs (easier to multitask, I can read the news item while watching movies and TV shows), 17 web based news sites should be enough news. ;)


Kirk Bayne
 
Its irresponsible to make a statement coming off as fact about why these channels are shutting down such as people don't like un opinionated news and that's why its not successful and shutting down when that's factually inaccurate sir.

"coming off as fact."

You're taking me out of context and then accusing ME of being irresponsible. It's irresponsible to take my comments out of context.
that essentially which is what your implying

So I'm essentially implying something, which you then believe I'm coming off as fact. In other words, I didn't say anything like that.
 
"coming off as fact."

You're taking me out of context and then accusing ME of being irresponsible. It's irresponsible to take my comments out of context.


So I'm essentially implying something, which you then believe I'm coming off as fact. In other words, I didn't say anything like that.
Again what you said specifically is qoute “People say they don't trust the media because it has opinion, but that's the only news that gets an audience. That's why Scripps is shutting down”.
This is a statement of fact not an opinion that you made it is factually inaccurate and I’ve already explained why. I’ve provided sources that back up my argument that scripps news is not shutting down due to declining ratings and that the channels have been growing in popularity which clearly shows people do want unbiased news and will tune in to it.
 
The evening news has no opinion and those still get great ratings.
Not really. The most watched evening news program, ABC World News Tonight with David Muir, had a 2.2 rating for the recently finished season, and in the adults 18-49 demo, the rating was 0.5.

Add up all three of them, and 94% of Americans didn't watch any of the evening news programs, and 98.7% of adults 18-49 did not watch any of the three.
 
Not really. The most watched evening news program, ABC World News Tonight with David Muir, had a 2.2 rating for the recently finished season, and in the adults 18-49 demo, the rating was 0.5.

Add up all three of them, and 94% of Americans didn't watch any of the evening news programs, and 98.7% of adults 18-49 did not watch any of the three.
I’m curious where the great ratings number came from. I’d like to see those numbers he’s using.
 
Not really. The most watched evening news program, ABC World News Tonight with David Muir, had a 2.2 rating for the recently finished season, and in the adults 18-49 demo, the rating was 0.5.

Add up all three of them, and 94% of Americans didn't watch any of the evening news programs, and 98.7% of adults 18-49 did not watch any of the three.
I was going to post a response giving this same jist until seeing yours. The evening network news programs are mostly favored by boomers. And one thing I noticed when last looking in on NBC's broadcast quite a while back was that every story was now BREAKING NEWS according to their chyrons, even stories that were obviously ho-hum and run-of-the-mill. It all looked overly theatrical and desperate.
 
And one thing I noticed when last looking in on NBC's broadcast quite a while back was that every story was now BREAKING NEWS according to their chyrons, even stories that were obviously ho-hum and run-of-the-mill.

I had to laugh when I read that, because almost without exception, the first words out of David Muir's mouth at the top of World News Tonight are "Breaking news as we come on the air."
 
I had to laugh when I read that, because almost without exception, the first words out of David Muir's mouth at the top of World News Tonight are "Breaking news as we come on the air."
But by the time the Pacific time zone airs WNT, wasn't the news already broken when it aired earlier in the Eastern and Central zones? :D
 
I’ve provided sources that back up my argument that scripps news is not shutting down due to declining ratings and that the channels have been growing in popularity which clearly shows people do want unbiased news and will tune in to it.

You provided a quote from the CEO. Of course he's going to blame advertisers, and not anything he did.

When I said you took me out of context, I was responding to a post that said Scripps News audience was 1/100th the size of Fox News.

I was talking about audience size, not advertisers. The audience for Scripps is much lower than any of the cable news channels. The cable channels all have opinion hosts in prime time, and that's when they get their largest audiences. Those are not opinions.

According to "The Desk", Scripps News had an average audience of only 20,000 and not much in the way of on-demand viewing. That's an absolutely tiny audience, if that report is accurate.

I also agree with what the CEO said about advertisers. But both audience size and advertising contributed to the shut down. If Scripps News ratings had been competitive with the other news channels, they would not be shutting down.

The radio situation is different. Radio ratings for all news stations in the markets where they're available typically outdraw the opinion-based talk stations. That's definitely true in places like San Francisco, Chicago, and Philadelphia. Those kinds of all-news stations are only available in a few cities where it can get a big enough audience. They tried it in Houston and Atlanta and it was dropped. The all-news station in Dallas is adding opinion-based talk to their station.
 
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Unfortunately in the world of TV news hype, a story can be many hours old and still be labeled “breaking news”. This almost always comes down as management edict, and ABC is probably the worst at sensationalizing everything.
That's why I'll miss Scripps News when it goes away. It's so non-sensational that many people would call it boring. But back when Huntley, Brinkley, Cronkite, and whoever was at ABC back then ruled the newsrooms, that was called Professionalism, and all three major networks adhered to it.
 
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