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Musk Calls for NPR and PBS Defunding

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Two of these stations, WFUV and WSHU, are owned and operated by Catholic universities: Fordham University and Sacred Heart University. For them to receive government (CPB) money violates the establishment of religion clause of the first amendment and the principle of separation of church and state.

I know of at least one other catholic station that carries some small amount of public radio programming and its owned by the dioceese but through a licensee that seperates it from the dioscese.
 
I know of at least one other catholic station that carries some small amount of public radio programming and its owned by the dioceese but through a licensee that seperates it from the dioscese.
Actually, there are quite a few noncommercial stations affiliated with religious schools (though not all carry NPR programming) that receive CPB funds. KBYU and KBYI, both affiliated with Brigham University and its Rexburg, Idaho, satellite receive CPB support. So does WSMC-FM, a classical outlet in Chattanooga, Tennessee, associated with (if memory serves) a Baptist school. And then there is KACU-FM, a full NPR outlet owned by Abilene Christian School in Abilene, Texas.

The way the U.S. Constitution has worked thus far is that the courts can only intervene after a complaint has been filed; since I know of no lawsuits based on the stations' religious affiliations ever making the courts (I could be wrong here), I must assume that it is okay for a CPB-funded broadcaster to be affiliated with a religious university as long as (and Some Radio Guy, please feel free to correct me) a majority of the programming is not proseletizing in the faith of the station's owner.
 
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You're welcome to challenge the grant on that basis. The stations are not religious in any way. WSHU plays mostly classical music. WFUV is AAA.
Also in the area but not (yet?) part of this alliance is 89.5 WSOU, which is owned by Catholic university Seton Hall, but plays mostly Heavy Metal rock music. (I guess they never watched "Hell's Bells"?)
 
The original intent of the law of separation of church and state was based entirely on the kingdoms of Europe where the royalty exercised their faith through a specific denomination (Evangelical Lutheran in Scandinavia Church of England in the UK). By royalty choosing a denomination, it became the official religion literally to the point that is you didn't exercise your faith in the same way as the royal family you were viewed as an enemy of the state. Read about Anabaptists creating closed communities to safeguard themselves from attack.

So, the writers of the Constitution wrote that government could not dictate a religion, Catholic for example. It has nothing to do with the practice of any or no faith and/or denomination but rather that a government cannot mandate a certain religion in the USA.
 
It's interesting that even in Catholic bookstores you're more likely to hear secular adult contemporary or country playing rather than a Christian music station.
 
It's interesting that even in Catholic bookstores you're more likely to hear secular adult contemporary or country playing rather than a Christian music station.
A Christian bookstore where I go on vacation was once playing the local CHR station, which leaned in a rock direction. I actually heard "Heaven's on Fire" by KISS.
 
If public broadcasting is so good let it stand on it's own. Dont get me wrong I've enjoyed many of their programs, but if people dont want to subscribe enough to cover costs that should tell you something. Maybe it's not worth it. The government should not be propping it up. When someone listens to or watches pbs....thats one less viewer or listener for a commercial station. If you own or work in radio or tv ask yourself why are we funding your competition?
 
The government should not be propping it up.

That's not true. As I've said in this thread, Ronald Reagan conditioned all federal funding to be based on each station's ability to raise money locally. The federal money is a percentage of the local fundraising. It's basically a matching fund. The purpose is to keep services free and available to everyone. The other part of the federal funding is for the station interconnection system, which is available to everyone, not just NPR. The CPB testifies every year in front of the appropriations committees to justify the federal funding.

If you own or work in radio or tv ask yourself why are we funding your competition?
They're not competition. They're doing programming that commercial stations don't do. Commercial TV networks have cut back on Saturday morning kids shows. Commercial radio has dropped local news. The reason the commercial companies supported the creation of PBS and NPR was specifically so they didn't have to do that kind of programming anymore.
 
Public radio fills the voids. Honestly, you're really better off getting the inside scoop on GWAR from a college student/fan than Ryan Seacrest. Just sayin'.
 
If public broadcasting is so good let it stand on it's own. Dont get me wrong I've enjoyed many of their programs, but if people dont want to subscribe enough to cover costs that should tell you something. Maybe it's not worth it. The government should not be propping it up. When someone listens to or watches pbs....thats one less viewer or listener for a commercial station. If you own or work in radio or tv ask yourself why are we funding your competition?

my background is in commercial radio...... and i manage a public station now. i go where LOCAL radio is. We have no compeition
 


Here is more on Elon Musk's defunding moves so far according to Reuters.



And here is a segment on PBS Newshour and their coverage of Elon Musk in the White House including Musk facing a lawsuit by the Arizona State Attorney General related to Doge. Yes this is a sign that we expect the Defund CPB rants to continue.
 

Update Senator Lee joins in to do the same thing the house is proposing and it's cut funding to NPR and PBS via CPB. Again as mentioned here local affiliates are affected.
 

Update Senator Lee joins in to do the same thing the house is proposing and it's cut funding to NPR and PBS via CPB. Again as mentioned here local affiliates are affected.
My guess is that the Senate bill Mr. Lee has introduced is going nowhere--it'll need 60 votes to overcome a likely Democratic filibuster. What will be more important are the House budget proposal (which has passed the House), the Senate's responding proposal (which they haven't made yet), and the final budget proposal after the differences between the two have been ironed out. And you can bet that the Trump administration will be in the mix, especially when it comes to funding CPB.
 
My guess is that the Senate bill Mr. Lee has introduced is going nowhere--it'll need 60 votes to overcome a likely Democratic filibuster.

CPB sends $7 million a year to Lee's state of Utah. Almost all of it goes to KUED at the University of Utah. The state government owns the station they're defunding. These folks in congress are hurting their home states, and they don't know it. This will translate to job losses for people in Utah, and more local taxes for people in Utah. But hey, they think they're cutting propaganda by defunding children's TV. They have no idea what they're doing.

As far as the house budget deal, a lot of the money they're cutting is aid to the states. So all they're doing is passing on those costs to the states, where they'll have to increase taxes to make up the loss. That's the plan. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. States like West Virginia and Louisiana stand to lose the most money. Who did they vote for?
 
Probably the best argument I've heard for not defunding NPR has to do with Alaska. In the Alaskan bush you have a sparse population spread over very wide areas that still relies on radio for most of their news and information because it's not economically feasible to build a 5G network for those reasons. Many of the stations are 10kW AMs and are public because a commercial station would not be economically viable in many cases. They provide EAS coverage as well as other services (relaying messages to people out in the bush, etc.) That's a real-world practical problem I grant you. I still expect NPR to be defunded, but some sort of provision will need to be made for Alaska.
 
I just had Vemont Public's classical network on in the car for a quick trip and heard two American composers, Florence Price and Samuel Barber, played back to back. Initial fears that VPR was trying to appease Trump by banning foreign composers, but then I remembered that Price was female and Black, so...
 
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