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Court reaffirms CPB's independence

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How is using the recissions process circumventing anything? That IS the established process for Congress to consider changes to previously appropriated funding. That literally requires a Congressional vote.

CPB has explained that. If it passes, you'll see how they will defend their appropriation.
 
CPB has explained that. If it passes, you'll see how they will defend their appropriation.
Well, when it passes, I think we'll see how ineffective such an effort might be.

There is no right to a government appropriation and, when passed, the action will be in compliance with the appropriate law to remove appropriations which is the province of Congress with Presidential concurrence.

You had a bit of a point when the attempt was made by Executive Order, but not a leg to stand on once this passes later this week.
 
You had a bit of a point when the attempt was made by Executive Order, but not a leg to stand on once this passes later this week.

There is a reason congress passed the 2-year advance appropriation. The reason was to prevent exactly this.

Right now they don't have the votes in the senate. That's why the president had his tantrum.

The senate wants to protect rural radio. If they do that, it's a win for CPB.
 
How do you know they don't have the votes when a vote is yet to be taken?

They'll be rescinding both years of the appropriation, so it will be undoing what they did, using the process.

If indeed the measure comes to a vote and doesn't pass, then the appropriation would remain in place.

I'd remind you that many suggested the recently passed budget bill didn't 'have the votes' and were proven wrong.

CPB really provides little, in the aggregate to 'rural radio'. Ensuring continued viability of the AM band will do far more to that end, and won't require a wasteful appropriation.
 
How do you know they don't have the votes when a vote is yet to be taken?

I posted an article yesterday on that subject. Alaska, Maine, Montana, Oklahoma, and South Dakota are likely no votes now.


The rescission doesn't really defund NPR & PBS. It takes away money from local stations. That's where 70% of the money goes.
 
I posted an article yesterday on that subject. Alaska, Maine, Montana, Oklahoma, and South Dakota are likely no votes now.

Collins and Murkowski are no votes. The SD, OK and MT Senators will fall in line. Possibly one will get to vote no. 50-50, VP breaks the tie.
 
Collins and Murkowski are no votes. The SD, OK and MT Senators will fall in line. Possibly one will get to vote no. 50-50, VP breaks the tie.

Both Alaska senators are no. We'll see. No actual vote has been scheduled. The deadline is Friday.
 
What do likely voters think about the rescission? We have a new poll:



The fact is this administration doesn't care. They're not doing this to win votes.
 
i was initially still hopefully when the feet hit the pavement on this movement to defund . but when the recission's iniitial vote a month or two ago was going to fairly, right near the deadline several republicans saw that and several of them who voted no flipped their votes to yes and it passed 214 to 212. its all because the republican party toes the political line and is afraid of the threats trump has made to anyone who opposes the recision.

that being said, all we need are 4 republicans to crater this recision vote and make it fail.
 
that being said, all we need are 4 republicans to crater this recision vote and make it fail.

Thune is from South Dakota. The same state as Mike Rounds. He knows what this bill will do to his state. My sense is he will let the deadline pass, and tell the white house to rewrite it only focusing on NPR and PBS, not local stations. Of course, that will only save about $8 million. A drop in the bucket, since NPR doesn't get much federal funding. But that's the best way to get a win.
 

I cant find @umfan comments you quoted, but Murkowski has voiced her support for public radio here.
Thune is from South Dakota. The same state as Mike Rounds. He knows what this bill will do to his state. My sense is he will let the deadline pass, and tell the white house to rewrite it only focusing on NPR and PBS, not local stations. Of course, that will only save about $8 million. A drop in the bucket, since NPR doesn't get much federal funding. But that's the best way to get a win.
and they may try and say any federal funding cant be spent on NPR/PBS which could present a problem for some stations
 
Collins and Murkowski are no votes. The SD, OK and MT Senators will fall in line. Possibly one will get to vote no. 50-50, VP breaks the tie.

Procedural vote to advance the bill to a vote passes by 51-50. They'll debate on Wednesday.

Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell were the three no votes.


They had to make some changes to get it to pass. Rounds of SD got money for tribal radio.
 
I'm certain there will be a vote no later than Friday. Agree that we will then see. Really not much to discuss until the vote.

There will be a final vote only if Senator Thune is assured the Rescission bill will pass. He has until this Friday to round up the necessary votes.

I will say this on your side. Today's Republican Party has shown more allegiance to this president than either of the political parties I've observed during my lifetime, and that loyalty may well be what enables Thune to round up the necessary votes.
 
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I will say this on your side. Today's Republican Party has shown more allegiance to this president than either of the political parties I've observed during my lifetime, and that loyalty may well be what enables Thune to round up the necessary votes.
and that sir, (not you, the fact).. is disgusting.
 
Back to the original topic of this thread, the DOJ yesterday filed a lawsuit against the three fired CPB board members:



Of course the whole thing could be moot, since congress is considering rescinding all federal funding to CPB. Doing that would effectively end CPB.
 
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