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Retro TV Schedule: WUAB 43 Cleveland (March 21, 1989)

6:00 Kenneth Copeland
6:30 Dinosaucers
7:00 G.I. Joe
7:30 The Real Ghostbusters
8:00 Scooby Doo
8:30 Smurfs' Adventures
9:00 Barnaby
9:30 Public Affairs
10:00 Matt Houston
11:00 Magnum, P.I.
12:00 Movie: Angel And The Badman (1947)
2:30 Tom And Jerry
3:00 Flintstones
3:30 Bugs Bunny
4:00 Fun House
4:30 C.O.P.S
5:00 Webster
5:30 Three's Company
6:00 Family Ties
6:30 Night Court
7:00 The Cosby Show
7:30 Cheers
8:00 Movie: Don't Go To Sleep (1982)
10:00 News
11:00 Sanford And Son
11:30 All In The Family
12:00 The Morton Downey, Jr. Show
1:00 News
2:00 Movie: Kona Coast (1968)
 
ktvt is cbs since sign on & as for kera
False.

KTVT was an independent station that didn't become a CBS affiliate until 1995. As part of that deal, then-owner Gaylord forced CBS to also take on KSTW (Tacoma/Seattle) as a CBS affiliate -- the result was that for several years, CBS was on KSTW instead of KIRO-TV. Interestingly, though, KSTW (back when it was KTNT) had been a CBS affiliate in its early years.
 
False.

KTVT was an independent station that didn't become a CBS affiliate until 1995.

Much as I hate to give them any credit for getting it right, the Wikipedia page for KTVT does accurately tell that history, but perhaps a simple timeline will help our misinformed friend.

11/11/55: Channel 11 signs on as KFJZ-TV. First independent station in the state (although it was preceded by a few short-lived UHFs, all of which had some network programming). While not technically a network, they carried some programming from the NTA Film Network when that was operating.

11/1/60: After the sale of channel 11 to the parent company of Chris-Craft Industries (making them a sister station to KCOP-TV/13 in Los Angeles, which they had purchased the previous year), the call letters were changed to KTVT, but the station remained independent.

2/23/62: KTVT is sold to the company which would eventually become Gaylord Broadcasting, and with significant upgrades in programming became the highest-rated independent station in the southwest (despite not broadcasting in color until four years later).

Beginning in the late 1970s, it was distributed via satellite to cable systems nationwide, similar to independent stations WTBS, WGN-TV and WOR-TV. Most sources say that every cable system in Texas and Oklahoma carried it as a result (along with many systems in neighboring Arkansas, Louisiana and New Mexico).

(Please note the word "independent" in all of the above paragraphs.)

They were one of the few major market independents to not sign with Fox when that network began operation, because the network's parent acquired KRLD-TV in the Metromedia merger.

As Tom said, the CBS affiliation did not happen until 1994, and I will refer you to the Wikipedia article for a detailed explanation of the convoluted situation that resulted in the affiliation.

But by then, channel 11 had been on the air just shy of 40 years. Not exactly "CBS since sign on". Not even close, in fact.
 
Are we going to have this discussion every time your memory is in conflict with what really happened?


As WXEL on channel 9, they were affiliated with ABC and DuMont. They were moved by FCC order to channel 8 at the end of 1953, and was sold less than a year later to the owners of WJW radio, who put those call letters on the television station as well. The original CBS affiliate was WEWS on channel 5; the two stations swapped affiliations in March 1955.

The affiliation change to Fox in 1994 was due to that network purchasing 20% of the company that owned channel 8 at that time. They did not have any period of being an independent; the switch between WJW-TV and WOIO happened simultaneously on September 3 of that year.

I am going to again ask, as politely as I can ... would you please do some research before making statements of "fact" that turn out to be false?
 
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when did super host appears on the schedule

Again: Research, research, research. I put "Super Host WUAB" into Google and the very first entry was the Wikipedia page on the late Marty Sullivan, who portrayed the character on channel 43 from 1969 to 1989.

He was also a staff announcer at WUAB, including as fill-in anchor for the prime time news breaks in Star Movie.

Here's a great article on him, written prior to his death in 2020:

And here is his final appearance as Super Host:
 
[re: KTVT ch 11 Fort Worth/Dallas]

They were one of the few major market independents to not sign with Fox when that network began operation, because the network's parent acquired KRLD-TV in the Metromedia merger.

As Tom said, the CBS affiliation did not happen until 1994, and I will refer you to the Wikipedia article for a detailed explanation of the convoluted situation that resulted in the affiliation.

But by then, channel 11 had been on the air just shy of 40 years. Not exactly "CBS since sign on". Not even close, in fact.
Fox's acquisition of the Metromedia stations guaranteed that KTVT wouldn't be a Fox affiliate in Dallas/Fort Worth, but I'll note that Gaylord's other independent station on ch 11 (KSTW Tacoma/Seattle) did pass on a Fox affiliation -- which is why Fox ended up on what was then lower-rated KCPQ.
 
Fox's acquisition of the Metromedia stations guaranteed that KTVT wouldn't be a Fox affiliate in Dallas/Fort Worth, but I'll note that Gaylord's other independent station on ch 11 (KSTW Tacoma/Seattle) did pass on a Fox affiliation -- which is why Fox ended up on what was then lower-rated KCPQ.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a case of "if you won't take both, you get neither". George B. Storer did the same thing to ABC when they abandoned KCST/39 San Diego as an affiliate in 1977; he flipped his Milwaukee station WITI/6 to CBS as a result.

 
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a case of "if you won't take both, you get neither". George B. Storer did the same thing to ABC when they abandoned KCST/39 San Diego as an affiliate in 1977; he flipped his Milwaukee station WITI/6 to CBS as a result.

That could well be, since Gaylord pulled the "if you won't take both, you get neither" strategy on CBS in the mid-90s. That's why CBS moved from KIRO-TV ch 7 to KSTW ch 11 in Seattle/Tacoma for several years -- it was the only way that CBS could get KTVT in the Dallas/Fort Worth market. Without KTVT, CBS would have gotten bumped to a UHF station here so they wanted KTVT very badly.

And KIRO-TV had always been a kind of crappy CBS affiliate, anyway. Under Bonneville's ownership, they were way too conservative for the market and were given to preempting network programming a bit too frequently.
 


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