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“Clay & Buck” debuts today - but where in Market #13?

When it is until very lately a mostly unknown term, especially among the group it is supposedly identifying, the repeated usage in intelligentsia media outlets shows it was absolutely being pushed.

If the group it's identifying uses it, what's the problem? I can use any term I want to describe myself.

If certain media is the "intelligentsia," what does that make the other group? The opposite? Perhaps.
 
But I swear whenever you hear stuff like that it's going to end in right wing talk show hosts accusing the "Pro-Biden/Harris" voters for being a snowflake, wanting safe spaces and triggered and Ex-Republicans and current democrats coming forward accusing Trump directly for doing crazier things than that.

But you gotta please a certain crowd though and have them riled up for the 2022 elections.
I see more of that style of speech (from both sides of the political spectrum) in social media and news site comment sections than I have heard on conservative talk radio. I don't listen to it much anymore, but I used to turn it on now and then because my mom (who was ill and staying with me) tired of NPR, so I'd switch back and forth.

I don't remember hearing any of the hosts we listened to using the term 'snowflake', not much on anyone being 'triggered' (I've mainly seen that mentioned in liberal leaning media, actually -- 'trigger warnings' and the like), but I've seen 'snowflake' used a gazillion times on social media and news sites' comments and any other online forms of dialog. A few of the hosts talked about 'micro-aggression', but that was when they were reading news reports (micro-aggressions and 'triggering' are apparently related).

Rush might have used terms like that, but I never listened to him.

Never personally heard any talk host talk about leftists needing safe spaces. If they said it, I don't remember hearing it, so it couldn't have been much. Maybe Michael Savage would have, it sounds more like something he would have said. But I think his network dropped him, he's not on the air anymore, and he had lower ratings than other hosts. He seemed to be the most extreme of the right wing hosts, Mike Malloy being the most outspoken and opinionated of the progressive talkers (when he was on the air).
 
When it is until very lately a mostly unknown term, especially among the group it is supposedly identifying, the repeated usage in intelligentsia media outlets shows it was absolutely being pushed.
Every term is unknown until used enough to become known. That’s the entire point of language. And if members of the group (acknowledging virtually no group is entirely homogeneous), then it’s not about “intelligentsia” (really?) or whatever, it’s about respect and basic human decency.
 
That's what I said: it was a brand for promotion. The pre-Clear Channel company had a corporate name as you mention but Rush made up the network name as part of the "talent on loan from God" image building.
"EIB" itself largely originated when he toiled away at WIXZ and KQV as "Jeff Christie," and denoting himself as "the Jeff Christie network, excellence in broadcasting." In fact, much of his talk persona had roots dating back to the late 1960s, plus he copied some of Larry Lujack's act from listening to WLS via skywave. All that really changed--beyond using his real name--was substituting out the songs for extended political monologues and the occasional song parody.

It really makes one wonder what could have been had ABC not bailed on KQV/WDVE and Rush remained there all along as a mere air personality... or if 13Q had taken a flier on him. Or even if Morton Downey, Jr. didn't get fired at KFBK.
 
I see more of that style of speech (from both sides of the political spectrum) in social media and news site comment sections than I have heard on conservative talk radio. I don't listen to it much anymore, but I used to turn it on now and then because my mom (who was ill and staying with me) tired of NPR, so I'd switch back and forth.

I don't remember hearing any of the hosts we listened to using the term 'snowflake', not much on anyone being 'triggered' (I've mainly seen that mentioned in liberal leaning media, actually -- 'trigger warnings' and the like), but I've seen 'snowflake' used a gazillion times on social media and news sites' comments and any other online forms of dialog. A few of the hosts talked about 'micro-aggression', but that was when they were reading news reports (micro-aggressions and 'triggering' are apparently related).

Rush might have used terms like that, but I never listened to him.

Never personally heard any talk host talk about leftists needing safe spaces. If they said it, I don't remember hearing it, so it couldn't have been much. Maybe Michael Savage would have, it sounds more like something he would have said. But I think his network dropped him, he's not on the air anymore, and he had lower ratings than other hosts. He seemed to be the most extreme of the right wing hosts, Mike Malloy being the most outspoken and opinionated of the progressive talkers (when he was on the air).
The most shocking part about Michael Savage's radio show is that he basically got into a verbal fight with every single person who called into his show. If someone didn't necessarily agree with his point of view, he would lambast them for five straight minutes in a fit of rage. Personally, I think it would have been more interesting if he took the time to have a more constructive dialog with his callers. Becoming engulfed with anger certainly isn't going to change anyone's mind. If your point of view really is correct, why not find a way to explain why that is? Some of the calls he received had to have been trolls who knew he would get fired up.
 
The most shocking part about Michael Savage's radio show is that he basically got into a verbal fight with every single person who called into his show. If someone didn't necessarily agree with his point of view, he would lambast them for five straight minutes in a fit of rage. Personally, I think it would have been more interesting if he took the time to have a more constructive dialog with his callers. Becoming engulfed with anger certainly isn't going to change anyone's mind. If your point of view really is correct, why not find a way to explain why that is? Some of the calls he received had to have been trolls who knew he would get fired up.
That confrontational style has always been a part of his act, no different from Morton Downey, Jr's persona.

Said act also sank Savage's MSNBC show and in disastrous fashion.
 
Politics aside, I still find it amazing that these talk programs have as many listeners as they do. It's consistently the same material being rehashed day after day. Even if you agree with what the hosts are saying, the overarching message never changes. I'd argue that there are YouTube channels/podcasts in the contemporary era that provide similar services and opinions (on either side of the political aisle) without becoming completely stale after a few episodes. I think most experts would make the argument that most talk radio listeners like consistency, and I can certainly see why. With that being said, I would also argue that the traditional Rush Limbaugh presentation isn't going to gain a tremendous amount support from listeners under the age of 40 as time goes by. Perhaps Clay & Buck will be different and try to keep the program a little more fresh. Many of the larger political podcasts (both liberal and conservative) discuss a wide range of topics outside of what you would expect to hear on KVI.
Think of it as being the talk/opinion version of a Top 40 station that plays its biggest hits 130 times per week. Instead of hearing your favorite song over and over and over, the listener instead gets the pleasure of having their biases and opinions continually reinforced.

Seems boring as can be to me, but there's obviously quite a few folks who enjoy stewing in their grievances on a continuous basis.
 
Think of it as being the talk/opinion version of a Top 40 station that plays its biggest hits 130 times per week. Instead of hearing your favorite song over and over and over, the listener instead gets the pleasure of having their biases and opinions continually reinforced.

Seems boring as can be to me, but there's obviously quite a few folks who enjoy stewing in their grievances on a continuous basis.
When Savage wasn't on a ranting rampage, sometimes he had interesting viewpoints. He was maybe 10 percent iconoclast and ninety percent right wing bombast. The yelling and ranting turned me off to the guy completely.

As for people wanting to have their biases and opinions constantly reinforced, that's been going on forever, and has been exacerbated by internet news, where it's often laced with opinion and/or little more than biased commentary. In that respect, conservative talk radio isn't any different. It's just using older technology.
 
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