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10 kHz AM Frequency of the Week - 1000 kHz

Re: re: 10 kHz AM Frequency of the Week - 1000 kHz

stormy01 said:
@cyberdad - WMVP is so strong at my location in the NW Chicago 'burbs that with a ferrite rod antenna it's not really enough to null them out to hear what's underneath...a box loop might do it. So the only times I've heard Oak City or Mexico DF is when AM 1000 was off the air, which was more often in the past, not so much now, due to higher uptime and multiple modules in the TX [when a few modules fail, power drops off a few kW, but not taking the 'rig' off the air completely like when there was 1 or 2 "Finals"!] or a backup TX. KOMO is yet but a dream...didn't stay up late often enough to find AM 1000 off for transmitter maintenance to hear them! 
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I hear what you're saying. I think I'm a little west of you....by main beach.  And I have to say, the only way I knew for sure I had XEOY (unless WMVP was off) was nulling the local signal as best I could, and hearing XEOY's distinctive sounder breaking through underneath.  As you probably know, you don't have to go too far west for the WMVP night signal to degrade significantly.  It's much weaker in Marengo, and as Radioman noted, it's really marginal in De Kalb.  On the other hand, as a teenager DXing where I grew up in Wauconda, the NIGHT signal (as WCFL) was very strong. and I never heard even a whiff of XEOY.
 
foreverchanges1975 said:
right now (7:15 pm CST) in Memphis I'm getting a station playing 70's music ("I Have To Say I Love You In A Song" into "Life In The Fast Lane") over everything. Wondering if they'll ID....

....it's obviously from some satellite service, but didn't ID and then WMVP took over.
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I believe you're hearing WRQR Paris, TN...I heard the same...and heard a weather forecast for "Paris and MacKenzie"...
 
There was a time when the FCC required high power transmitters to be located far away from the population. Even 20000 watt WJJD was way out in Mooseheart. That's how the Chicago stations ended up where they were. There's still the 1% rule, where there is only supposed to be 1% of the population in the 1 V/m contour as there is in the 25 mV/m contour. WCFL was 5000 watts until fairly late and older rules may not have applied then with 5000 watts, or maybe it was far enough.

Part of the idea of putting the transmitters way out was so they wouldn't interfere with or overwhelm the 250, 500, and 1000 watt stations prevalent then. It had nothing to do with RF exposure or anything like that.
 
The "Super CFL" talkreminds me of the 60's when one of the jocks (Jerry G Bishop I think) would do a bit asking the audience to place their hands on their hearts and face Downers Grove (where the TX is). Then you'd hear the Chuck Blore jingle "We proudly pledge allegiance to the station that we love....."
 
Schroedingers Cat said:
There was a time when the FCC required high power transmitters to be located far away from the population. Even 20000 watt WJJD was way out in Mooseheart. That's how the Chicago stations ended up where they were. There's still the 1% rule, where there is only supposed to be 1% of the population in the 1 V/m contour as there is in the 25 mV/m contour. WCFL was 5000 watts until fairly late and older rules may not have applied then with 5000 watts, or maybe it was far enough.

Part of the idea of putting the transmitters way out was so they wouldn't interfere with or overwhelm the 250, 500, and 1000 watt stations prevalent then. It had nothing to do with RF exposure or anything like that.
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There was a station in Flint, Michigan (1330 WTRX, I think) where the towers were located literally in the middle of a
trailer park. Looked to me like the owners got hard-up for money at some point and began leasing trailer lots all
around their transmitter property.
 
317C50KW said:
The "Super CFL" talkreminds me of the 60's when one of the jocks (Jerry G Bishop I think) would do a bit asking the audience to place their hands on their hearts and face Downers Grove (where the TX is). Then you'd hear the Chuck Blore jingle "We proudly pledge allegiance to the station that we love....."
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....."In this lovely land of Lincoln......'
 
FreddyE1977 said:
There was a station in Flint, Michigan (1330 WTRX, I think) where the towers were located literally in the middle of a trailer park. Looked to me like the owners got hard-up for money at some point and began leasing trailer lots all around their transmitter property.
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WTRX was sold to Bob Liggett, from the mobile home sales owner, and then quickly to Citadel and now Cumulus. They have cleaned that site up pretty well. The trailers are gone, and the historic but ramshackle building additions are gone. It now also houses the WFBE transmitter and the north tower has the WFBE FM DA. The tower design was intended for Booth Broadcasting, the original group owner, to put an FM antenna on the north tower in 1948! But it didn't happen until recently. Too bad the FM is directional. Thanks to David Eduardo for making the 1940s history readily accessible. I had heard the story but never knew the details. The taller north tower also allows shallow nulls in the horizontal in the night pattern that deepen at the elevation angle of critical protection range.
 
Located in W. Washington.

Day and night, KOMO, Seattle. I have one tentative logging of HJAQ, Cartagena, Colombia, from 1984, on a boombox and spiral loop. I think (going from memory) I heard the Caracol ID, which led me to believe it was Colombia and not Mexico City. It would have been when KOMO was off the air for maintenance.
 
boombox said:
Located in W. Washington.

Day and night, KOMO, Seattle. I have one tentative logging of HJAQ, Cartagena, Colombia, from 1984, on a boombox and spiral loop. I think (going from memory) I heard the Caracol ID, which led me to believe it was Colombia and not Mexico City. It would have been when KOMO was off the air for maintenance.
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Niiiiiccccceeeee catch. I've yet to hear KOMO off, but y'never know, maybe WMVP might come in if so. Or XEOY.

-crainbebo
 
Sick day, so I had nothing to do but sit with a radio this early morning. I think I'm hearing XEOY as there's a station playing some type of Spanish language 'traditional' type music right now. But the frequency is dominated by a station that I don't think has been mentioned yet: KTOK Oklahoma City. They're running either 5 or 5.8 kW into a 5 tower array that looks like it sends a lot of signal my way. For a while around 5 am, it was solid and dominant with a local live morning show. That's a new one for me!
 
From NE NC car radio. 1000 days is WRAR Tappahannock, VA. Sunrise/sunset WIOO Carlisle, PA and WLNL Horseheads, NY. Nights is all WMVP Chicago.
 
Zach....

First of all, I hope you're feeling better by the time you read this.

Back on topic, I'm pretty sure the Spanish station you're hearing is XEOY, it's a pretty easy catch around the gulf.

I'm curious, however, what I'm hearing on 1000 here on the beach daytime. It's oldies, but I haven't caught an ID yet. Signal is weak but steady. My first thought was the 1000 in Crestview (FL), but according to Radio-Locator, they're country. Do you know if they flipped? Or might I be hearing something else? To the best of my knowledge, that 1000 in Robertsdale (AL) is still off the air.
 
Maybe this will help solve the mystery. WJSB in Crestview is on 1050, but there's a station on 1000 roughly 100 miles ESE of there in Blountstown that's listed as oldies. It's WYBT, a 5kW ND daytimer. Also from the same source ( http://topazdesigns.com/ambc/ ) WBZR, the Alabama station is still shown to be silent.
 
Wow, that Blountstown oldies station would be quite the catch! There certainly doesn't seem to be anything else around that would qualify for daytime reception. WBZR is still off. Personally, I think it's dead for good. I'll be shocked if the new owners ever get it back on the air.
 
Agree, Blountstown 1000 would be quite a catch, but oldies is what I was hearing. Maybe a little daytime skywave going on. I'll check it out again at some point over the next couple of days. Also my apologies for the frequency mixup with the Crestview station,
 
jd said:
Maybe this will help solve the mystery. WJSB in Crestview is on 1050, but there's a station on 1000 roughly 100 miles ESE of there in Blountstown that's listed as oldies. It's WYBT, a 5kW ND daytimer. Also from the same source ( http://topazdesigns.com/ambc/ ) WBZR, the Alabama station is still shown to be silent.
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I still don't have this completely unraveled yet, but I think I'm getting really close. I went outside just before noon today with the DX-375 to see if I could snag a TOH ID. After hearing a couple of '60s oldies I heard a female announcer saying "Golden Oldies" but what came after (presumably the ID) got lost in the noise. I'll keep after it, but I'm pretty sure it would be WYBT. Given that they have no website, no jocks, no news at noon, no imaging, etc., I think this has to be a really low-budget operation. What I heard would be consistent with that.....an iPod robot plugged into a transmitter!

At least plugged into a transmitter that gets out pretty well!
 
romer979fm said:
foreverchanges1975 said:
right now (7:15 pm CST) in Memphis I'm getting a station playing 70's music ("I Have To Say I Love You In A Song" into "Life In The Fast Lane") over everything. Wondering if they'll ID....

....it's obviously from some satellite service, but didn't ID and then WMVP took over.
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I believe you're hearing WRQR Paris, TN...I heard the same...and heard a weather forecast for "Paris and MacKenzie"...
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late to reply on this but if that's what you heard that's what it has to be...

...of course they shouldn't have been on the air at that time....
 
Warminster PA(Philadelphia area):

Daytime: maybe WRNJ from North Jersey with a weak signal; otherwise, splatter from 990 WNTP.
Night: always WMVP(the former WCFL and WLUP).
 
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