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10 yrs later, another set of firings at KGO

Applies to politicians too. Michael Jackson, during his run on KHJ, KNX and KABC in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, would frequently call them out. “Sir, you don’t believe that, and if you wish, I’ll quote you taking the exact opposite position.”
 
For a very short period of time back in the 70's the morning drive show on KLOK Radio was simulcast here in SoCal on KWIZ Santa Ana. Both stations covered a similar type geographic area. 1170 covered the greater Silicon Valley/San Jose area with only a fair to poor signal in SF proper. And 1480 covered greater Orange County with only a fair to poor signal in LA.

Back then, for around 5 years OC was actually a separate rated radio market, whereas San Jose was and still is a separate market for radio. Back when AM was King, in the OC KEZY 1190 and KWIZ 1480 were the top rated stations listened to in the OC. However, by the time FM reached parity with AM in the late seventies "local OC radio" died as everybody was now listening to LA's Mt Wilson FM stations.

For a very short period of time back in the 70's the morning drive show on KLOK Radio was simulcast here in SoCal on KWIZ Santa Ana. Both stations covered a similar type geographic area. 1170 covered the greater Silicon Valley/San Jose area with only a fair to poor signal in SF proper. And 1480 covered greater Orange County with only a fair to poor signal in LA.

Back then, for around 5 years OC was actually a separate rated radio market, whereas San Jose was and still is a separate market for radio.
50kw KLOK AM 1170 was much stronger than those Orange County signals. It had (and still has) pretty good coverage in San Francisco. I once lived about 10 miles north of S.F. (more than 50 miles from San Jose), and it came in just as well as San Francisco stations.
 
50kw KLOK AM 1170 was much stronger than those Orange County signals. It had (and still has) pretty good coverage in San Francisco. I once lived about 10 miles north of S.F. (more than 50 miles from San Jose), and it came in just as well as San Francisco stations.
True. On the east side of the Sierra, in Bishop, I could get KCBQ, San Diego for about half an hour before sundown and pattern change in the 70s.

As soon as that happened, KLOK came blasting in.
 
50kw KLOK AM 1170 was much stronger than those Orange County signals. It had (and still has) pretty good coverage in San Francisco. I once lived about 10 miles north of S.F. (more than 50 miles from San Jose), and it came in just as well as San Francisco stations.
We could receive it in San Rafael (but not all of Marin County) but it wasn't nearly as clear/strong as the SF stations.

Their "tick-tock" background was somewhat irritating. Wonder how the DJ's felt (or perhaps they had it blocked out)?
 
Back then, for around 5 years OC was actually a separate rated radio market, whereas San Jose was and still is a separate market for radio.
San Jose is an "embedded" market like Long Island and several other NYC suburban areas. An embedded market is a portion of a larger market that is tabulated separately and issued as a discreet report. It is still part of the larger market.

Santa Rosa used to be another embedded market for San Francisco, but it lost its subscribers and was cancelled a few years ago.

OC continued into the 90's to be an embedded market, with a separate report "extraction" even though Orange County is part of the Los Angeles MSA.
Back when AM was King, in the OC KEZY 1190 and KWIZ 1480 were the top rated stations listened to in the OC. However, by the time FM reached parity with AM in the late seventies "local OC radio" died as everybody was now listening to LA's Mt Wilson FM stations.
Yet the book continued to be issued for more than a decade more.
 
San Jose is an "embedded" market like Long Island and several other NYC suburban areas. An embedded market is a portion of a larger market that is tabulated separately and issued as a discreet report. It is still part of the larger market.

Santa Rosa used to be another embedded market for San Francisco, but it lost its subscribers and was cancelled a few years ago.

OC continued into the 90's to be an embedded market, with a separate report "extraction" even though Orange County is part of the Los Angeles MSA.

Yet the book continued to be issued for more than a decade more.
Interesting...back in the 60s,and 70s when most of the handful of OC FM stations were still playing instrumental elevator music (like LA's KJOI, KBIG, KOST and others) one OC station stands out: KYMS 106.3. This FM station was unique in that they played Top 40 music with live DJ's. Don't know if KYMS had any significant ratings back then, but I do remember that people all over the LA Basin, and even the SFV taking pains to try pick up this station.
 
KFBK and KGO are very different radio stations.

‘BK has a four-hour newscast in morning drive (5-9 am), hosted by two popular former local TV news anchors, six hours of syndicated conservative talk (Travis/Sexton and Tom Sullivan—who, before syndication, was a local KFBK host and has been on KFBK’s schedule for 33 years), an hour of local conservative talk hosted by a popular former sheriff of Sacramento County who’s been in the slot more than ten years, a three-hour newscast in afternoon drive (4-7 pm) hosted by Kitty O’Neal, who’s been there for 36 years and is a local treasure and an evening talk show (7-10 pm) hosted by a popular former sports anchor who‘s been with the station for more than 20 years and, until the past couple of years, avoided politics like the plague.

The only real turnover on-air at ‘BK has been in morning drive anchors (the new team has been there since 2019, but again, they’re well known former local TV people), Limbaugh’s death and Kitty’s co-anchors (an honor I was blessed to have for four years). Not counting Travis/Sexton, the “new show” on the air is Pat Walsh in the evening, and he just celebrated eight years last month. And again, he’s been on the station more than 20.

KSTE is fairly close to KSFO in concept.

That said, the markets are also very different. Sacramento, the city, is fairly liberal. 521,000 people live in Sac proper. The metro is 2.1 million. The suburbs, especially in Placer and El Dorado counties, tend to be conservative. And the exurbs and rural areas even more.

So conservative talk does very well. So does Country and so does Classic Rock—-neither of which perform as well in the Bay Area.
Yes I remember Yuba and Sutter are more conservative than Sacramento County proper and Yolo County which is moderate democrat. In the case of KFBK Iheart started getting an FM Signal initially on 92.5 FM and later on 93.1 FM signal a decade ago in response to changing demographics in the Sacramento area and respond to PPM.

But in recent years Capital Public Radio has beefed up operations for their News/Talk format though and has been the number 2 News/talk station in the Sacramento area. Capital Public Radio does better in Sacramento, Yolo and Solano Counties (Note parts of Solano is in the Bay Area Media Market where KCBS Radio and NPR News/talk affiliate KQED-FM are the top stations in that market.)
 
Yes I remember Yuba and Sutter are more conservative than Sacramento County proper and Yolo County which is moderate democrat. In the case of KFBK Iheart started getting an FM Signal initially on 92.5 FM and later on 93.1 FM signal a decade ago in response to changing demographics in the Sacramento area and respond to PPM.

But in recent years Capital Public Radio has beefed up operations for their News/Talk format though and has been the number 2 News/talk station in the Sacramento area. Capital Public Radio does better in Sacramento, Yolo and Solano Counties (Note parts of Solano is in the Bay Area Media Market where KCBS Radio and NPR News/talk affiliate KQED-FM are the top stations in that market.)
And now I work for Capital Public Radio (or as we call it now, CapRadio). And we’re just getting started.
 
True. On the east side of the Sierra, in Bishop, I could get KCBQ, San Diego for about half an hour before sundown and pattern change in the 70s.

As soon as that happened, KLOK came blasting in.
This is the time of the year for a couple of days each month you might hear mid-day skywave from both of those stations! In the SFV where I live, I've heard KLOK's skywave clearly at mid-day (11am-1pm) overpowering KCBQ's very weak groundwave.
 
This is the time of the year for a couple of days each month you might hear mid-day skywave from both of those stations! In the SFV where I live, I've heard KLOK's skywave clearly at mid-day (11am-1pm) overpowering KCBQ's very weak groundwave.
KCBQ lost a lot of their range when they relocated the towers from Mission Gorge Road in Santee more than ten years ago. It’s now a Lowe’s home improvement store.
 
KCBQ lost a lot of their range when they relocated the towers from Mission Gorge Road in Santee more than ten years ago. It’s now a Lowe’s home improvement store.
When KCBQ lost their lease on Mission Gorge Road, several months later they were able to di-plex off off KECR 910 which is also in Santee. KECR's (5 kW directional) ground wave null goes right through Oceanside across the ocean to KOXR's site in Saticoy. KCBQ's (50 kW directional) null is farther to the north (aimed at San Jose) but puts less than .25 mV/m where I live in the SFV.
 
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Yes I remember Yuba and Sutter are more conservative than Sacramento County proper and Yolo County which is moderate democrat. In the case of KFBK Iheart started getting an FM Signal initially on 92.5 FM and later on 93.1 FM signal a decade ago in response to changing demographics in the Sacramento area and respond to PPM.

But in recent years Capital Public Radio has beefed up operations for their News/Talk format though and has been the number 2 News/talk station in the Sacramento area. Capital Public Radio does better in Sacramento, Yolo and Solano Counties (Note parts of Solano is in the Bay Area Media Market where KCBS Radio and NPR News/talk affiliate KQED-FM are the top stations in that market.)
Also Armstrong and Getty is KSTE's only local show in Sacramento. But they had a simulcast at one point on KGO-AM as part of the revamp back in 2016-2017. Armstrong and Getty started out as Sacramento only before Iheart/Clear channel Radio syndicated the show to select markets
KFBK and KGO are very different radio stations.

‘BK has a four-hour newscast in morning drive (5-9 am), hosted by two popular former local TV news anchors, six hours of syndicated conservative talk (Travis/Sexton and Tom Sullivan—who, before syndication, was a local KFBK host and has been on KFBK’s schedule for 33 years), an hour of local conservative talk hosted by a popular former sheriff of Sacramento County who’s been in the slot more than ten years, a three-hour newscast in afternoon drive (4-7 pm) hosted by Kitty O’Neal, who’s been there for 36 years and is a local treasure and an evening talk show (7-10 pm) hosted by a popular former sports anchor who‘s been with the station for more than 20 years and, until the past couple of years, avoided politics like the plague.

The only real turnover on-air at ‘BK has been in morning drive anchors (the new team has been there since 2019, but again, they’re well known former local TV people), Limbaugh’s death and Kitty’s co-anchors (an honor I was blessed to have for four years). Not counting Travis/Sexton, the “new show” on the air is Pat Walsh in the evening, and he just celebrated eight years last month. And again, he’s been on the station more than 20.

KSTE is fairly close to KSFO in concept.

That said, the markets are also very different. Sacramento, the city, is fairly liberal. 521,000 people live in Sac proper. The metro is 2.1 million. The suburbs, especially in Placer and El Dorado counties, tend to be conservative. And the exurbs and rural areas even more.

So conservative talk does very well. So does Country and so does Classic Rock—-neither of which perform as well in the Bay Area.
Also Armstrong and Getty is KSTE's only local show in Sacramento. But they had a simulcast at one point on KGO-AM as part of the revamp back in 2016-2017. Armstrong and Getty started out as Sacramento only before Iheart/Clear channel radio syndicated the show to select markets.

At one point KKSF-AM and KNEW-AM the iHeartRadio owned stations in San Francisco aired Armstrong and Getty but it didn't do well due to the San Francisco media market has all news and news/talk on the FM side.
 
Also Armstrong and Getty is KSTE's only local show in Sacramento. But they had a simulcast at one point on KGO-AM as part of the revamp back in 2016-2017. Armstrong and Getty started out as Sacramento only before Iheart/Clear channel Radio syndicated the show to select markets

Also Armstrong and Getty is KSTE's only local show in Sacramento. But they had a simulcast at one point on KGO-AM as part of the revamp back in 2016-2017. Armstrong and Getty started out as Sacramento only before Iheart/Clear channel radio syndicated the show to select markets.

At one point KKSF-AM and KNEW-AM the iHeartRadio owned stations in San Francisco aired Armstrong and Getty but it didn't do well due to the San Francisco media market has all news and news/talk on the FM side.
It had less to do with news and newstalk being on FM than with 910 being a weak AM that hasn’t had a good book in 30 years.

During the time they were on KGO, they were the station’s highest-rated show.
 
KFBK and KGO are very different radio stations.

‘BK has a four-hour newscast in morning drive (5-9 am), hosted by two popular former local TV news anchors, six hours of syndicated conservative talk (Travis/Sexton and Tom Sullivan—who, before syndication, was a local KFBK host and has been on KFBK’s schedule for 33 years), an hour of local conservative talk hosted by a popular former sheriff of Sacramento County who’s been in the slot more than ten years, a three-hour newscast in afternoon drive (4-7 pm) hosted by Kitty O’Neal, who’s been there for 36 years and is a local treasure and an evening talk show (7-10 pm) hosted by a popular former sports anchor who‘s been with the station for more than 20 years and, until the past couple of years, avoided politics like the plague.

The only real turnover on-air at ‘BK has been in morning drive anchors (the new team has been there since 2019, but again, they’re well known former local TV people), Limbaugh’s death and Kitty’s co-anchors (an honor I was blessed to have for four years). Not counting Travis/Sexton, the “new show” on the air is Pat Walsh in the evening, and he just celebrated eight years last month. And again, he’s been on the station more than 20.

KSTE is fairly close to KSFO in concept.

That said, the markets are also very different. Sacramento, the city, is fairly liberal. 521,000 people live in Sac proper. The metro is 2.1 million. The suburbs, especially in Placer and El Dorado counties, tend to be conservative. And the exurbs and rural areas even more.

So conservative talk does very well. So does Country and so does Classic Rock—-neither of which perform as well in the Bay Area.
I forgot one thing El Dorado and Placer counties in the Sacramento area are supposed to be some of fastest growing areas in California. At one point El Dorado and Placer Counties were battleground counties in California due to some of the congressional districts being competitive. This may be a factor why Rush did well in Sacramento before he went to WABC-AM and national for three decades.
I remember Dr. Dean Edell also syndicated his radio show at one point on KFBK even though his show was originating from KGO-AM San Francisco and was doing TV Segments for KGO-TV ABC7 News. He was big from the 80's and 90's









 
Slight correction: the di-plexed KCBQ/KECR towers are actually in Lakeside, a few miles northeast of the old Santee site.
I stand corrected, this probably explains why KCBQ is now even weaker (just barely audible) in my location than it was from their original site! I must mention that in the interim when KCBQ was operating daytime with about 5 kW off of a loaded wire antenna attached to the KLSD 1360 tower, they were actually strong enough (although still very weak) to be heard on almost any radio from my location.
 
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