103.9 The Hawk is coming in again as I drive around Fresno after the signal being gone for several months, but, only with a Pioneer Supertuner stereo. I hope it lasts! I am a happy camper! NICE!!!
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103.9 The Hawk is coming in around Fresno again. At least for now, I hope!
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DanielBoone said:103.9 The Hawk is coming in again as I drive around Fresno after the signal being gone for several months, but, only with a Pioneer Supertuner stereo. I hope it lasts! I am a happy camper! NICE!!!
As long as the atmospheric conditions are in your favor. Enjoy!
Now the signal is gone. They turned the juice down. I guess I got too excited, too quickly.
DanielBoone said:Now the signal is gone. They turned the juice down. I guess I got too excited, too quickly.
Nothing to do with the station power. Just atmospheric conditions.
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kenrayc
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I remember in the valleys tule fog a while back recieving The Hawk on 104.1 instead of KFRR in North Fresno.
I don't mean to argue with you guys, but, this was happening for three days straight, day and night around the clock continuously. If it was the atmosphere, it would go away for a several hours, then come back wouldn't you say? I know in the mornings just before sunrise before leaving for work, I can get 98.5 The Fox out of Bakersfield crystal clear from Fresno, But, during the afternoon it's gone or very weak. I can sometimes get 97.5 KABX in Galt, Elk Grove and South Sac along Hwy 99, when under normal conditions, their signal goes as far north as Manteca. In these cases, yes, I will say it is atmospheric conditions. Not in this case!
So, I will let it go if it makes you guys happy. I am just going to give up on it. It just isn't worth it anymore. If you want to keep talking about it, I am perfectly willing to.
So, I will let it go if it makes you guys happy. I am just going to give up on it. It just isn't worth it anymore. If you want to keep talking about it, I am perfectly willing to.
DanielBoone said:I don't mean to argue with you guys, but, this was happening for three days straight, day and night around the clock continuously. If it was the atmosphere, it would go away for a several hours, then come back wouldn't you say? I know in the mornings just before sunrise before leaving for work, I can get 98.5 The Fox out of Bakersfield crystal clear from Fresno, But, during the afternoon it's gone or very weak. I can sometimes get 97.5 KABX in Galt, Elk Grove and South Sac along Hwy 99, when under normal conditions, their signal goes as far north as Manteca. In these cases, yes, I will say it is atmospheric conditions. Not in this case!
So, I will let it go if it makes you guys happy. I am just going to give up on it. It just isn't worth it anymore. If you want to keep talking about it, I am perfectly willing to.
Unless Citadel is breaking the law, I would say it's atmospheric conditions.
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kenrayc
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103.9 KDJK The Hawk only has 72 watts, Even though it is line of sight of Fresno, Adjacent Stations KRZR ,with 50k watts ERP, and KFRR 104.1 With 17k ERP keeps there signal out, but areas north of Herndon 103.7 has drop off points same with 104.1 in areas east of Willow and North of Sheppard were 103.9 be heard.
I went to a shopping center today at Willow and Nees when I went to park I heard 103.9 ,they were running the Raiders-Panthers Game.So it's where it's at and Atmospheric condition also helps.
I went to a shopping center today at Willow and Nees when I went to park I heard 103.9 ,they were running the Raiders-Panthers Game.So it's where it's at and Atmospheric condition also helps.
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tacofun
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Also don't forget that KRZR 103.7 is broadcasting a HD signal which can cause a lot of interference on the adjacent 103.9 in Fresno unless atmospheric conditions allow for 103.9 to overpower that HD signal.
It happened with KFRR in STOCKTON!
I remember a time not too long ago, when the signal of KHKK-104.1 was off the air and KFRR-104.1 signal was booming in STOCKTON. When I first heard KFRR, I had thought that THE HAWK changed formats from CLASSIC ROCK to ALTERNATIVE until I heard the ID.
I remember a time not too long ago, when the signal of KHKK-104.1 was off the air and KFRR-104.1 signal was booming in STOCKTON. When I first heard KFRR, I had thought that THE HAWK changed formats from CLASSIC ROCK to ALTERNATIVE until I heard the ID.
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kenrayc
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Before KFRR 104.1 went on the air in the early 90s, I received 104.1 Modesto (KHOP at the time) from time to time with a good signal (good tropo condition) from Clovis. At Friant Dam and Sky Harbour it came in all the time same way with KO93 (KOSO 93.1 ajnd the original KDJK 95.1.
Madmansam said:I remember a time not too long ago, when the signal of KHKK-104.1 was off the air and KFRR-104.1 signal was booming in STOCKTON. When I first heard KFRR, I had thought that THE HAWK changed formats from CLASSIC ROCK to ALTERNATIVE until I heard the ID.
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kenrayc
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KFRR 104.1 is on the best transmitting site in Central California for FM, Eshom Point .With the average terrain calulated at 853 ft. with the sea level at 5217 ft., for a Class B FM 17kw ERP.
I've never heard a good explanation of how KRZR, 103.7, Hanford and KFRR, 104.1, Woodlake are allowed on 2nd adjacent channels, when 100w X 100' HAAT LPFMs cannot fit anywhere between Visalia and Fresno.
If it weren't for the NAB and the GOP, 92.5, 98.5 and 104.5 could all be used for LPFM. Probably a couple other channels too.
If it weren't for the NAB and the GOP, 92.5, 98.5 and 104.5 could all be used for LPFM. Probably a couple other channels too.
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kenrayc
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Good Point ,it does make sense that 92.5,104.5 and 98.5 can be used for low power if located south of Fresno.Another frequency would be 100.7. 92.5 could be classB1 ,considering that 106.3 Kingsburg was added, even with KNAH in Merced.
Was KFRR ever CLASSICAL MUSIC?
I have a question? Around 1993 or 94, 104.1 (then KHOP) was off the air for 15 minutes and I recall listening to CLASSICAL MUSIC, but KHOP came back on the air without me finding out who that was. Did KFRR start out as a CLASSICAL MUSIC station before changing to ALTERNATIVE? Or was it another station?kenrayc said:Before KFRR 104.1 went on the air in the early 90s, I received 104.1 Modesto (KHOP at the time) from time to time with a good signal (good tropo condition) from Clovis. At Friant Dam and Sky Harbour it came in all the time same way with KO93 (KOSO 93.1 ajnd the original KDJK 95.1.Madmansam said:I remember a time not too long ago, when the signal of KHKK-104.1 was off the air and KFRR-104.1 signal was booming in STOCKTON. When I first heard KFRR, I had thought that THE HAWK changed formats from CLASSIC ROCK to ALTERNATIVE until I heard the ID.
Re: Was KFRR ever CLASSICAL MUSIC?
KFRR was once a Classic Hits/ Hot AC hodge-podge. I believe their slogan was K-F-R-R....Four in a Row. I think 105.1 in Fresno was Classical for a brief period in their early life. Their call letters were KXDR in 1990 and then KSLK in 1992. It was an Easy Listening station then, by the mid 1990's the easy listen format and call letters ended up in Visalia at 96.1. The format would later switch to Smooth Jazz.
Madmansam said:I have a question? Around 1993 or 94, 104.1 (then KHOP) was off the air for 15 minutes and I recall listening to CLASSICAL MUSIC, but KHOP came back on the air without me finding out who that was. Did KFRR start out as a CLASSICAL MUSIC station before changing to ALTERNATIVE? Or was it another station?kenrayc said:Before KFRR 104.1 went on the air in the early 90s, I received 104.1 Modesto (KHOP at the time) from time to time with a good signal (good tropo condition) from Clovis. At Friant Dam and Sky Harbour it came in all the time same way with KO93 (KOSO 93.1 ajnd the original KDJK 95.1.Madmansam said:I remember a time not too long ago, when the signal of KHKK-104.1 was off the air and KFRR-104.1 signal was booming in STOCKTON. When I first heard KFRR, I had thought that THE HAWK changed formats from CLASSIC ROCK to ALTERNATIVE until I heard the ID.
KFRR was once a Classic Hits/ Hot AC hodge-podge. I believe their slogan was K-F-R-R....Four in a Row. I think 105.1 in Fresno was Classical for a brief period in their early life. Their call letters were KXDR in 1990 and then KSLK in 1992. It was an Easy Listening station then, by the mid 1990's the easy listen format and call letters ended up in Visalia at 96.1. The format would later switch to Smooth Jazz.
Whoa, hold on MRK. KFRR did start out in the early 90's a a Classical, i.e. Fine Music station, before becoming alternative rock. That's what the Madmansam heard (around '94?), when 104.1 Modesto was off the air. 105.1 was never Classical or rock, until recently as The Blaze. Not sure what it's format was at first sign on, but it spent most of it's life as Spanish.
The long distance effect along the eastern foothills is due to thermal ducting. Similar to what's called Tropo but at near ground level. I remember it happening, when I lived on or near the foothills. Even on the high UHF TV channels. Sometimes every channel from 55-83, was filled with a low powered, TV translator, from Bakersfield to Sacramento. Mostly KQED Channel 9, PBS translators run for valley schools in the 70's till, maybe, the mid 80s.
The long distance effect along the eastern foothills is due to thermal ducting. Similar to what's called Tropo but at near ground level. I remember it happening, when I lived on or near the foothills. Even on the high UHF TV channels. Sometimes every channel from 55-83, was filled with a low powered, TV translator, from Bakersfield to Sacramento. Mostly KQED Channel 9, PBS translators run for valley schools in the 70's till, maybe, the mid 80s.
Thanks mofocat! I checked out the FCC website and found that the original call letters for 104.1 was KFCL, which I assume mean't KFresnoCLassical? They changed calls to KFRR on 9/30/94.mofocat said:Whoa, hold on MRK. KFRR did start out in the early 90's a a Classical, i.e. Fine Music station, before becoming alternative rock. That's what the Madmansam heard (around '94?), when 104.1 Modesto was off the air. 105.1 was never Classical or rock, until recently as The Blaze. Not sure what it's format was at first sign on, but it spent most of it's life as Spanish.
The long distance effect along the eastern foothills is due to thermal ducting. Similar to what's called Tropo but at near ground level. I remember it happening, when I lived on or near the foothills. Even on the high UHF TV channels. Sometimes every channel from 55-83, was filled with a low powered, TV translator, from Bakersfield to Sacramento. Mostly KQED Channel 9, PBS translators run for valley schools in the 70's till, maybe, the mid 80s.
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kenrayc
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I do remember 104.1 KFRR (KFCL then) It did stand for FRESNO CLASSICAL MUSIC.When they changed to KFRR (For in a row) in 1994 they started out with doing 1004 songs in a row (It was a Classic Hits/AC station play hits for the 70s, 80s and 90s.)there was a contest for who ever hears the first commercial the won $ not sure how much,ananyway on the day they came to the 1004th song they went of the air do to technical difficulty.They started the Alternative format not long after that.As 105.1 It was never a CLASSICAL MUSIC station it started off with Adult Standards mixed with Instumental music as KXDR. Changed call to KSLK (Silk FM) in 1992. They sold the station to Lotus a couple year later.They made it a spanish station.The owners started the station in Visalia 96.1 an made it Silk FM with the same format,then flipped it to Smooth Jazz.
Madmansam said:Thanks mofocat! I checked out the FCC website and found that the original call letters for 104.1 was KFCL, which I assume mean't KFresnoCLassical? They changed calls to KFRR on 9/30/94.mofocat said:Whoa, hold on MRK. KFRR did start out in the early 90's a a Classical, i.e. Fine Music station, before becoming alternative rock. That's what the Madmansam heard (around '94?), when 104.1 Modesto was off the air. 105.1 was never Classical or rock, until recently as The Blaze. Not sure what it's format was at first sign on, but it spent most of it's life as Spanish.
The long distance effect along the eastern foothills is due to thermal ducting. Similar to what's called Tropo but at near ground level. I remember it happening, when I lived on or near the foothills. Even on the high UHF TV channels. Sometimes every channel from 55-83, was filled with a low powered, TV translator, from Bakersfield to Sacramento. Mostly KQED Channel 9, PBS translators run for valley schools in the 70's till, maybe, the mid 80s.
Thanks for the clarification about 104.1. I do know that 105.1 was an easy listening station early on before going spanish.
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