105.7 The Hog in Rockwood/Crossville - Classic Hits

[NashRadio]

(I believe I may have posted about this station earlier) On my way to the Smoky Mtns. + back last weekend, I got a chance to listen. (I was going to save this until last, but don't want it to be lost They played "Daydream" by Lovin' Spoonful and "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida" (not back-to-back, but-)

They played the Pretenders + Paul Simon, "Outshined" from Soundgarden + "I'll Be There" by the Spinners, Blues Traveler + "Same Old Lang Syne". Btw, I liked just about EVERY song they played.

(1) Would Nashville support such a station? (I would.) (2) Do we stand a snowball's chance of ever having one? (I say no.)

 

[jetfli]

Your question fits into the twin analogies of radio reality:

• Nashville WOULD support such a station, THEREFORE advertisers WOULD do well with such a station.
• Self-absorbed ("it's all about my world, and I don't listen to radio, or that kind of radio") account execs and media buyers would NEVER buy on such a station, THEREFORE account execs and media buyers don't really have a clue.

A recent Radio-Info article was headlined "Radio's Problem Isn't Listeners, It's Advertisers". But I can't blame advertisers, because they're being told where and to whom to advertise by account execs and media buyers. I've seen this happen over and over again, where businesses waste gazillons based on bad advertising advice. I've even seen business bankrupted by it.

Best move businesses could ever make is to just poll their customers regarding media and advertising and totally cut agencies out of the picture. They'd save big dollars on the bottom line! Plus, every media form has people on staff that can advise them on creating the advertising.

 

[Musiclovinglady]

I do listen to the Hog whenever I can pick it up.. it is a different kind of station but that is what makes it original. Unlike Jack FM there are actual DJs! I wish that owners and programmers would understand that most listeners like to hear an actual person behind the mic...kind of like the old school days whenyou could call in requests or dedicate a song to someone for whatever reason. I personally don't like the ipod kind of way that most stations are going to. What is the incentive for us to listen? Anyway...didn't mean to stray off subject....keep up the good work! Love the Hog!

 

[DToTheJ]

For many, many years, the station used to be known as South 105.7, and even carried Crossville native Moby in morning drive for awhile. For most of their existence, their legal ID included "Knoxville," even though it wasn't in the immediate Knoxville area. Even still, they abruptly dropped country to become "Music Radio WLSQ," which didn't last very long before they went all "hog wild" on us. From what I read, they appear to be doing very well with local advertisers, which is the one of the things in radio that matters the most.

Could Nashville support such a station? Well, if it's on 97.1, probably not..."The Tower"... LOL.

 

[firepoint525]

(I believe I may have posted about this station earlier) On my way to the Smoky Mtns. + back last weekend, I got a chance to listen. (I was going to save this until last, but don't want it to be lost They played "Daydream" by Lovin' Spoonful and "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida" (not back-to-back, but-)

They played the Pretenders + Paul Simon, "Outshined" from Soundgarden + "I'll Be There" by the Spinners, Blues Traveler + "Same Old Lang Syne". Btw, I liked just about EVERY song they played.

(1) Would Nashville support such a station? (I would.) (2) Do we stand a snowball's chance of ever having one? (I say no.)

Bonus points for them if they trot out the 17-minute version of that one! 8) ;D

 

[NashRadio]

FP: Unfortunately, just the single versions of the songs, but that's better than not-at-all-

 

[jetfli]

Bonus points for them if they trot out the 17-minute version of that one!

For so long I thought of the 17-minute version as "the long version" of the song, until my thinking was turned around after getting into radio and understanding more about the music industry. I now think of the 17-minute version as not a "version" at all but as the original work, and that what was released on a "45" is an "edited version". What we've come to call a "remix" in the industry is really more about taking a song and creating a "long version" of it. When I think of all those calls I made to stations way back when asking them to play "long versions" of songs, well, I just have to remember we were all kids at some point... which is one reason why I always treated them well when they called.

 

[firepoint525]

Well, to my credit I did say "the 17-minute version," not the "long" version, although I understand your point. Imagine what they could have created had they had CDs back in those days! My brother-in-law has a live CD of the Allman Brothers that contains one song that is over 40 minutes long! It must have been one serious jam session! 8)

 

[SwissVol]

Well, to my credit I did say "the 17-minute version," not the "long" version, although I understand your point. Imagine what they could have created had they had CDs back in those days! My brother-in-law has a live CD of the Allman Brothers that contains one song that is over 40 minutes long! It must have been one serious jam session! 8)

You're not talking about the 33 minute or so version of the old Donovan tune called: "Mountain Jam" are you? The only way radio stations could play that cut was when they were doing all night full play album shows. As I recall, I seem to remember Dave Walton on KDA FM playing the entire Eat a Peach album back when it first hit the radio stations. ScottWMRO has a good memory on these kinds of things. I think it was Walton?? Yah know midnight jocks loved those all night Sunday album shows since some serious nodding could be accomplished.

 

[firepoint525]

Unfortunately, I don't know.  That was my brother-in-law's CD, not mine.  I'm not even sure if he still has it.  I just remember seeing it one time when I was over at their place to feed and take care of their dog in their absence.  I have sort of become the Kato Kaelin of dogsitting. 

 

[RMarino]

(I believe I may have posted about this station earlier) On my way to the Smoky Mtns. + back last weekend, I got a chance to listen. (I was going to save this until last, but don't want it to be lost They played "Daydream" by Lovin' Spoonful and "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida" (not back-to-back, but-)

They played the Pretenders + Paul Simon, "Outshined" from Soundgarden + "I'll Be There" by the Spinners, Blues Traveler + "Same Old Lang Syne". Btw, I liked just about EVERY song they played.

(1) Would Nashville support such a station? (I would.) (2) Do we stand a snowball's chance of ever having one? (I say no.)

I live in range of this station and can tell you that the station is very repetitious. If you listen one day, yes you will hear all of those songs, but then listen tomorrow and you'll hear them again! I've literally heard Iron Butterfly THREE times this week so far!

This is also the problem I had with Nashville's "Classic Hits 97.1" The station sounds awesome for a day, but listen tomorrow and it's deja vu!

 

[firepoint525]

Every station has its own handful of core songs that they absolutely beat to death. It may be a different group of songs than you might hear in another market, but rest assured, they have those "favorites."

I remember thinking how great it was to hear great '70s classic rock on the radio again back when I first moved to Nashville. Back in rural west Tennessee where I was from, I hadn't heard many of those songs on the radio on any kind of regular basis since the'70s! Now I look at my own record collection and wonder, "why did I buy that?" when I can hear it on the radio almost any time I want!

 

[jwk1979]

I live in range of this station and can tell you that the station is very repetitious. If you listen one day, yes you will hear all of those songs, but then listen tomorrow and you'll hear them again! I've literally heard Iron Butterfly THREE times this week so far!

This is also the problem I had with Nashville's "Classic Hits 97.1" The station sounds awesome for a day, but listen tomorrow and it's deja vu!

That's funny coming from someone that DEFENDED Mix 92.9 for playing the ANNOYING "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" - Ruppert Holmes, "Flashdance" - Irene Cara and that annoying song by Billy Vera and the Beaters several times a day each for months and months (and STILL TO THIS DAY) because they TESTED WELL.

 

[SwissVol]

Every station has its own handful of core songs that they absolutely beat to death. It may be a different group of songs than you might hear in another market, but rest assured, they have those "favorites."

I remember thinking how great it was to hear great '70s classic rock on the radio again back when I first moved to Nashville. Back in rural west Tennessee where I was from, I hadn't heard many of those songs on the radio on any kind of regular basis since the'70s! Now I look at my own record collection and wonder, "why did I buy that?" when I can hear it on the radio almost any time I want!

We know that programming philosophies can occur from region to region, but what about just differences from station to station? I was talking to a lady just the other day that told me that she grew up in New York City when WNEW FM was the big album rock station. She told me that the song "Train Train" by Blackfoot was seldom played if ever. I guess regional differences kept that from getting a significant degree of airplay, but how much of that is regional and how much is it the program director just did not dig that tune? My point is back when WKDF FM and Rock 106 were the new leading stations for album rock, I seem to remember that KDF largely ignored that song and Rock 106 featured that song quite a bit. Both stations were in the Nashville market and both stations were pretty much going after the same Demos, but one station chose to ignore that tune or not play the song quite as much. That song is just one of many. I think the differences can be just as simple as one PD does not dig it as much as the other PD at the other station.

 

[firepoint525]

Rock 106 made the right decision, but 'KDF was wrong. Of course, I lived in west Tennessee at the time, so I heard it fairly regularly on Rock 103 from Memphis. But since "Train Train" mentions Memphis, no real surprise there! 8)

 

[RMarino]

I live in range of this station and can tell you that the station is very repetitious. If you listen one day, yes you will hear all of those songs, but then listen tomorrow and you'll hear them again! I've literally heard Iron Butterfly THREE times this week so far!

This is also the problem I had with Nashville's "Classic Hits 97.1" The station sounds awesome for a day, but listen tomorrow and it's deja vu!

That's funny coming from someone that DEFENDED Mix 92.9 for playing the ANNOYING "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" - Ruppert Holmes, "Flashdance" - Irene Cara and that annoying song by Billy Vera and the Beaters several times a day each for months and months (and STILL TO THIS DAY) because they TESTED WELL.

I did? I don't remember, but I'll take your word for it. A station should play what tests well. "Mix" sounds well-researched. "The Hog" does not. I don't mind a tight playlist as long as it's focused.

 

[jwk1979]

I live in range of this station and can tell you that the station is very repetitious. If you listen one day, yes you will hear all of those songs, but then listen tomorrow and you'll hear them again! I've literally heard Iron Butterfly THREE times this week so far!

This is also the problem I had with Nashville's "Classic Hits 97.1" The station sounds awesome for a day, but listen tomorrow and it's deja vu!

That's funny coming from someone that has DEFENDED Mix 92.9 for playing the ANNOYING "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" - Ruppert Holmes, "Flashdance" - Irene Cara and that annoying song by Billy Vera and the Beaters several times a day each for months and months (and STILL TO THIS DAY) because they TESTED WELL.

I did? I don't remember, but I'll take your word for it. A station should play what tests well. "Mix" sounds well-researched. "The Hog" does not. I don't mind a tight playlist as long as it's focused.

But those 3 songs SUCKED when they were on the charts 25 to 30 years ago and they still SUCK. Playing a song that was annoying 30 years ago (Escape(The Pina Colada Song)) daily for the next 30 years doesn't make the song any less annoying or make it SUCK even less. The only way that song TESTED WELL would be if they were looking for song to put on the JUKEBOX FROM HELL.

 

[Journeyman]

That's funny coming from someone that has DEFENDED Mix 92.9 for playing the ANNOYING "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" - Ruppert Holmes, "Flashdance" - Irene Cara and that annoying song by Billy Vera and the Beaters several times a day each for months and months (and STILL TO THIS DAY) because they TESTED WELL.

But those 3 songs SUCKED when they were on the charts 25 to 30 years ago and they still SUCK. Playing a song that was annoying 30 years ago (Escape(The Pina Colada Song)) daily for the next 30 years doesn't make the song any less annoying or make it SUCK even less. The only way that song TESTED WELL would be if they were looking for song to put on the JUKEBOX FROM HELL.

You aren't a woman 25-54 and you don't know what women like. Back when they were 18-34 year old womn they LOVED those songs. ad they LOVE them today as 25-54's. Mix is a staion with high female demos. Apparently, judging by the numbers, they get it.