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106.9 FREE FM in San Francisco flip to Classic Hits KFRC

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Radioguy2006

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Hey 106.9 FREE FM in San Francisco flip to Classic Hits KFRC.

Because of low ratings in San Francisco.

http://www.kfrc.com

101.5 (KZON) FREE FM might flip format to something as Top 40 as KRIZ, 101.5 K-Rock Everything Alternative or 101.5 The Mountain as AAA station.
 
CBS might buy 860 AM KMVP from Bonneville and move "FREE FM" format from 101.5 to 860 AM.

The radio station would be call "Talk 860 KZON", Talk 860 KMVP", or "Arizona Talk 860".
 
Might call the AM talk station 860 "FREE AM" Arizona Talk Station
 
Radioguy:

I might have a job offer for you to do maybe do something. Maybe I could call you the guy that comes up with stuff for a station and makes up names for a station. Maybe you could come up with a format and ask people if they like it. Maybe you could do something that another station has done, but do it on another station...maybe. Maybe you could write about suff that might happen, or talk about something that could maybe happen on a station...maybe. Or might not. I don't know. Maybe. ???
 
Radioguy2006 said:
Hey 106.9 FREE FM in San Francisco flip to Classic Hits KFRC.

Because of low ratings in San Francisco.

http://www.kfrc.com

101.5 (KZON) FREE FM might flip format to something as Top 40 as KRIZ, 101.5 K-Rock Everything Alternative or 101.5 The Mountain as AAA station.
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What color is the sky in your world?

None of the above makes a lot of sense realistically... maybe alternative (as the Zone was kinda). KRIZ are call letters that are NOT available, plus it's a station that hasn't existed in Phoenix in almost 30 years... even the ultra-nostalgic types on this board would barely remember that... plus they wouldn't listen to a song dated after 1975 anyway :)

On a serious note: Free-FM was a doomed ship from the outset--little talent of any consequence, combined with programming decisions that made little sense (like the branding of the station itself for instance). Tom Leykis is living proof that ANYBODY and I mean ANY BODY can get a gig in this biz... how the mighty have fallen. Nice to see that hundreds of millions of dollars in investment into FREE-FM gets you a 1 share or so... good stuff CBS.

Free-FM Phoenix will probably be here a little while longer, there are at least 2 people that listen to it for sure... and both are on this board :)
 
I keep waiting for 101.5 to Filp, Maybe, Maybe not...Guess we'll have to stay an look what might hapen ::) ;D
 
101/5 FLIP ?

8)

CHILL 101/5 ?








Bonobo

Bjork

Zero 7

Air

Coldplay

Caia

John Digweed

Sasha

Dirty Vegas

Si*Sé

Mark Farina

LTJ Bukem

SiA

DJ Shadow

Niyaz

Dzihan & Kamien

Thievery Corporation

Jose Gonzalez

Brian Eno

Zero 7

Dirty Vegas

Bonobo

Hem

Moodswings

Massive Attack

Future Sound of London

Kid Loco

Sigur Ros

Dzihan & Kamien

Weekend Players

Gus Gus

Lemon Jelly

Future Sound of London

Moodswings

Deep Forest

Enigma

Trespassers William

Finley Quaye

Soulive

Plumb

Portishead

The Chemical Brothers

Beth Orton

Morcheeba

Dido

Flunk

Hooverphonic






10pm Hour

Natural Blues - Moby

Overcome - Tricky

Between Something and Nothing - The Ocean Blue

Wait for Me - Dean and Britta

I Have Seen - Zero 7

Orbit of Me - Delerium

Gold in Them Hills - Ron Sexsmith

Waves - Hooverphonic

You Made It - DJ Shadow

Hatfield 1980 - Everything but the Girl

Comes a Time - Nada Surf

11pm Hour

Swollen - Bent

Don't Leave - Faithless

Center of the Sun - Conjure One

One Hell of a Party - Air

Lebanese Blonde - Thievery Corporation

My Cosmic Autum Rebellion - The Flaming Lips

Here With Me - Dido

Here it Comes - Doves

No Other - SKYE

Miles From Monterey - West Indian Girl

Missing You - Jem

12am Hour

New Year's Prayer - Jeff Buckley

Unfinished Sympathy - Massive Attack

Satellite - Control Freq

How My Heart Behaves - Feist

Title and Registration - Death Cab for Cutie

Moon - Sia

High - The Blue Nile

Bonfire - Lamb

Milano - Sigur Ros

So Easy - Royksopp

Under the Milky Way - Grant-Lee Phillips

1am Hour

Isola - ILYA

Lucky - Radiohead

Machine Gun - Slowdive

Dogs - Damien Rice

Thinking About Tomorrow - Beth Orton

On Your Way - The Album Leaf

Leafhound - Saint Etienne

Looks Like Rain - The Postmarks

Round the Bend - Beck

Sea of Doubts - Azure Ray

Pepe ft Bernd Schoenhart - Classical Gas (Chameleon Mix)
ATB - 9pm Til I come
Chemical Bros - Block Rocking Beats
Kaskade - Steppin Out
Magnolia - It's All In Vain
MDO - Groove With Me Tonight
Modjo - Lady
Robert Miles - Children
Sin Plomo - It's You (JJ Flores)
Solitaire - I Like Love
Simply Red - Home (Motivo Hi-Electro Mix)
Solid Sessions - Janeiro (Pronti and Kalamari Mix)
DJ Spiller - Groove Jet
Kaskade - "Steppin Out"
Coco & Villa - "La Noche"
Andain - Beautiful Things (radio edit i think)
morjac - stars (has piano and guitar)
dj sammy -boys of summer
dj sammy- sunlight
nalin & kane - cruising
G Club, "Guiterras G"
Different Gear Vs. The Police, "When The World Keep Running Down"
Ruff Driverz, "Dreaming"
Whigfield, "Was A Time"
The Killers, "Somebody Told Me"
Garbage, "Stupid Girl"
Deep Dish, "Flashdance" and "Money For Nothing"
Blue Pearl, "Can You Feel The Passion"
KLF,"The White Room"(CD)
DJ X, "Use Your Love"
Ram Jam, "Black Betty(Remix)"


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Air
1
1
Howard Hello
1
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Secret Machines
1
1 Play
Tarentel
1
1
Unified Theory
1
1
jacques kopstein
1
1 Play
Andrew Bird
1
1 Play
Kaki King
1
1 Play
Keane
1
1 Play
Rubén González
1
1 Play
Iron & Wine
1
1
Okay
1
1 Play
Gavin Castleton
1
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The Silent League
1
1 Play
The Ants
1
1
Ticonderoga
1
1 Play
Grizzly Bear
1
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Explosions in the Sky
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Rufus Wainwright
1
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Tortoise




1 Norman Brown
2 Marion Meadows
3 David Sanborn
4 O’2L
5 Peter White
6 BONEY JAMES

7 ALEX CORTIZ

8 Camiel
9 MOCEAN WORKER

10 ADANI & WOLF

11 DALMINJO

12 Mark Gorbulew
13 PRAFUL

14 Wax Poetic/Norah Jones
15 MINDI ABAIR

16 Soulstance
17 Jazzinho
18 BRAZILIAN GIRLS

19 BENT

20 Positive Flow
21 Dave Koz
22 KLEMENT JULIENNE

23 THIEVERY CORPORATION

24 Kim Waters
25 Marc Antoine
26 Chris Botti
27 PETE BELASCO

28 AYA

29 Slow Train Soul
30 GEORGE BENSON

31 PAUL BROWN

32 Tim Bowman
33 SOUL BALLET

34 Re:Jazz
35 Slow Train Soul
36 John Mayer...








TO NAME A FEW
 
Lumberyard 101~Five. Sure would cut down on the number of light timer posts!
 
"Chill 101-5" ?

From the list you posted, I can see that being an even bigger bust than FREE-FM. The only thing worse than talk no one wants to hear is music that no one wants to hear. There's an audience for it, but is the audience substantial enough to make it worth turning on the transmitter? In the case of FREE-FM, the answer is clearly "no" and in the case of the aforementioned "chill" format, I believe the answer would be the same. Although, with this market there are often things that surprise me... you know, little things like why a heritage AM decides to fire anyone with talent and eventually move to FM in hopes of regaining glory as if the band and frequency matter... or why people tune in like mad to hear 146 versions of "Frosty the Snowman" and then no one sticks around to listen to the station the rest of the year... or why we have THREE sports stations and only if they were all combined would they collectively be worth listening to... just some of the things that make you go "hmmmm".
 
KMGX said:
"Chill 101-5" ?

From the list you posted, I can see that being an even bigger bust than FREE-FM. The only thing worse than talk no one wants to hear is music that no one wants to hear. There's an audience for it, but is the audience substantial enough to make it worth turning on the transmitter? In the case of FREE-FM, the answer is clearly "no" and in the case of the aforementioned "chill" format, I believe the answer would be the same.
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he's been "chill" forever. it's his favorite format. just be grateful he's no longer allowed to post in all caps like he used to. ;)
 
I got a good idea for CBS let buy KKFR POWER 98.3 from Riviera Broadcast Group and move the POWER format to 101.5 and KZON FREE FM format to 98.3.


KKFR might beat KZZP (KISS FM) in the ratings next time around.
 
Radioguy2006 said:
I got a good idea for CBS let buy KKFR POWER 98.3 from Riviera Broadcast Group and move the POWER format to 101.5 and KZON FREE FM format to 98.3.


KKFR might beat KZZP (KISS FM) in the ratings next time around.
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worst... idea... ever!
 
94117 said:
worst... idea... ever!
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typical radio mentality..

if the music doesn't crossover to every other format on fm.. "it won't work'.

i think the http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ has it right.
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Alright, let me spell this out for some of you--it's kinda cute and funny to say "Maybe Riveria should buy station x and then CBS buys station y and clearchannel buys station z and they move formats around and everyone drinks beer and there are pretty rainbows in the skies over Phoenix". The truth of the matter is, Riveria isn't buying FREE-FM, Hip-Hop (power 98.3) is not moving to 101.5, and FREE-FM--a format that DOES NOT WORK OR GET RATINGS--isn't moving to a location where it would have less power and get even fewer people listening.

I used to think people posted these ridiculous ideas just to be 'trollish', but I know that at least a few of them were serious. I'm a realist and the truth is, Hip-Hop has a fairly low ceiling in Phoenix--KISS-FM does a pretty nice job supplying their half-ass CHR and half-ass Hip-hop format, while Power 98.3 has some success from the west valley--albeit pretty small success... it's not a burgeoning format in Phoenix by any stretch of the imagination.
 
i thought 101.five sounded best when it was aaa



re 'chill'..

i had the same problem trying to get alternative on the air.

back in '87 '88 '89, i'd got the same response that i'm getting with 'chill'... "the edge won't work" "it's a fad"

There's an audience for it, but is the audience substantial enough to make it worth turning on the transmitter
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guy zapoleon, doug roberts & bob case had the future vision to put 'the edge' on 104.7 overnight

later, steven taslitz had the future vision to put 'the edge' 24/7 on 106.3 with the jacobs bros

for a fad of a station, with music that no one wants to hear, i think 'the edge' has had a pretty good run.

since alternative & hip hop 20 years ago, there really hasn't been any new music formats introduced to boring fm radio.

there may be new formats mixing old music, but no new music formats.

dance radio was told that it's a niche format and it should keep a tight & narrow playlist.. which is why few people listen to radio these days.

last week i tuned-in to energy four times to hear what they're up to.. and every time, i heard the same 'rehab' song' that's probably on every other station in town with a rock, hip hop, mainstream, alternative or country version of the song.

energy should own the format with nothing crossing over and open-up their playlist to include techno, trance, jungle, drum & bass, downtempo, trip hop, acid jazz & the like. ..energy should stay in the mix and spin everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/ is proper dance radio

what do i care ? ..i've got my ipod & internet.

i can honestly say that my friends & family don't listen to the radio, except for news / talk.

now with advertisting moving away from tv & radio, i hope to hear more indie radio in the future.

it's just funny to see y'all holding on to your formatic beliefs that music should be 'familiar', tested, researched, tested, research and played in super-tight rotation. ..which is fine if you're only going to listen to the radio for an hour a day. ..and that's what happening; people listening to the radio less.

whatever.


http://www.pandora.com/?tc=b-002830-0121-1154

http://www.shoutcast.com/

http://www.live365.com/index.live

http://radio.real.com/?rnd=1179769698750&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1483

http://music.aol.com/radioguide/bb.adp

http://di.fm/

http://somafm.com/


good luck !
 
94117 said:
i thought 101.five sounded best when it was aaa



re 'chill'..

i had the same problem trying to get alternative on the air.

back in '87 '88 '89, i'd got the same response that i'm getting with 'chill'... "the edge won't work" "it's a fad"

There's an audience for it, but is the audience substantial enough to make it worth turning on the transmitter
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guy zapoleon, doug roberts & bob case had the future vision to put 'the edge' on 104.7 overnight

later, steven taslitz had the future vision to put 'the edge' 24/7 on 106.3 with the jacobs bros

for a fad of a station, with music that no one wants to hear, i think 'the edge' has had a pretty good run.

since alternative & hip hop 20 years ago, there really hasn't been any new music formats introduced to boring fm radio.

there may be new formats mixing old music, but no new music formats.

dance radio was told that it's a niche format and it should keep a tight & narrow playlist.. which is why few people listen to radio these days.

last week i tuned-in to energy four times to hear what they're up to.. and every time, i heard the same 'rehab' song' that's probably on every other station in town with a rock, hip hop, mainstream, alternative or country version of the song.

energy should own the format with nothing crossing over and open-up their playlist to include techno, trance, jungle, drum & bass, downtempo, trip hop, acid jazz & the like. ..energy should stay in the mix and spin everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/ is proper dance radio

what do i care ? ..i've got my ipod & internet.

i can honestly say that my friends & family don't listen to the radio, except for news / talk.

now with advertisting moving away from tv & radio, i hope to hear more indie radio in the future.

it's just funny to see y'all holding on to your formatic beliefs that music should be 'familiar', tested, researched, tested, research and played in super-tight rotation. ..which is fine if you're only going to listen to the radio for an hour a day. ..and that's what happening; people listening to the radio less.

whatever.


http://www.pandora.com/?tc=b-002830-0121-1154

http://www.shoutcast.com/

http://www.live365.com/index.live

http://radio.real.com/?rnd=1179769698750&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1483

http://music.aol.com/radioguide/bb.adp

http://di.fm/

http://somafm.com/


good luck !
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A few points:

1) You presume too much: I am in the internet broadcasting business (or that's one of my endeavors anyway). I take formats and bend them to suit the needs of the audience and have been successful doing it--our network of stations is living proof that net stations can make money. So, don't lump me into the category of being someone that just says "only use format x, y and z".

All of that having been said, It's been said a thousand times that stations should open up their playlists and break new formats, and it's been tried and FAILED over and over... remember when the Zone first came on the air? I still have the tape of their initial broadcast after being Mix1015... they played Hans Olsen - "You Wish", who?? book after book, they never made an impact and finally had to go more mainstream over time. KUKQ another fine example... but where are they now?

Everyone says they want NEW and EXCITING formats on the radio--it's just like in the internet biz... I've seen people invest money into starting stations that "play everything" and they fail. There's something to be said for testing, researching and such, obviously it makes for stale radio, but that's what most people seem to want.

2) The edge eh? If 1.2 is the benchmark for success then sure, let's just break the bank to start stations that get barely any listeners and we can have ad rates of $6/spot and everyone at the station can have a pizza.

Look, some formats work, some don't--for lots of reasons: Movin 975 is a great example, it doesn't work because it's consultant driven crap with a predictable playlist and the personality of a winamp on shuffle. Simply coming up with a cool playlist isn't enough, just like moving a station to FM isn't enough--sooner or later you have to have CONTENT as well.
 
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