Think about it. KHJ is owned by Relevant Radio, run by a group of Catholic ministers. Can you imagine them taking a weekend off and using their station to air songs like Blueberry Hill and Louie, Louie? Maybe some Elvis Presley? The reason most stations ran rock & roll at night back then was because church groups called it the devil's music and attacked radio stations that played it. So now, the church is going to take a break from preaching and play the exact songs they once protested? Maybe bring in the Wolfman as a guest DJ? Really?
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1090 XEPRS Has Gone Back to Oldies Plus Wolfman - L.A. Daily News
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Think about it. KHJ is owned by Relevant Radio, run by a group of Catholic ministers. Can you imagine them taking a weekend off and using their station to air songs like Blueberry Hill and Louie, Louie? Maybe some Elvis Presley? The reason most stations ran rock & roll at night back then was because church groups called it the devil's music and attacked radio stations that played it. So now, the church is going to take a break from preaching and play the exact songs they once protested? Maybe bring in the Wolfman as a guest DJ? Really?
Im just surprised by all the attacks on an insignificant weekly newspaper column. Just like Lieberman's blog, if you don't like it, don't read it like I do. For straight forward industry news, analysis, and relevant features, just stick to sources like: Inside Radio, Radio Ink, Radio Online, and the popular Radio Insight. And for historical info, worldradiohistory com.
Once again, he just made an off the cuff remark that Im pretty sure he wasn't serious about actually happening. Just for fun!
the problem is, as hasd been explained before, the fanboys will use anyone and any piece of evidence, however slim or not realistic it may be and use that as an example to say it should be done/would work. its like confirmaiton bias with political news on facebook.. people share stuff that i can find out is qutie false through a 20 second google search but they share and buy into it because it fits their narrative and they refuse to hear otherwise... ive seen it happen on here and in radio fb groups. (people asserting what should be done with am's.. donate them instead of turning in the license, etc-)
Well, the fanboys are always going to be disappointed, because those of who live in reality know...those wishes regarding a return to radio as it was 40-50 years ago, have a snowball chance in Yuma of ever being successful or even happening.
How is Wagoner, who we all admit is just writing what he wants (as if there is something wrong with that) responsible for the opinions of his "fanboys"? And are these "fanboys" allowed to have their own opinions, or only the ones approved by their industry betters with furrowed-brow looking down the glasses at the ends of their noses that post regularly on radio boards?
because the fanboys take someone like that as.. authority/someone who knows what theyre talking about. confirmation bias. again, re read my post
And just for fun, I point out the folly of his comment.
In his case, it wasn't "off the cuff." It was written in an article that was then published by various news organizations. That's not off the cuff. That's supposed to be researched and edited professional writing. Off the cuff is what I do here. Nobody pays me to post here, and I still get taken to the cleaners when I make a mistake. When you take on the mantle of being a writer with a platform, that should be a slightly higher standard than me writing on a message board. Don't you think?
Those various news organizations that published his comments, had a choice of whether or not to. This is a weekly column about radio, something a growing number of LA Times readers even care about, and likely glance over, in a medium (newspapers) that even fewer people care about A researched straightforward news column about radio will bring even fewer readers.
Were in the age of the internet, so whether it's the headline, or the content, it has to be made more interesting to get people to read. And really how many radio professionals depend on Wagoner's column to stay in the know.
Still trying to determine if it is ok to post unapproved opinions or not? Can Wagoner be sued for misleading the uninformed like a pied piper?
If we are going to have speech police, let's be upfront about it. I know there are several here who are willing to be the cops.
I'll try it one more time, shorter and a different way:
There is no reason to expect anything different from Richard Wagoner. He's a listener, not a journalist, not a broadcaster or former broadcaster.
He's been doing it for 37 years, but he's also been teaching high school and didn't have the opportunity to build contacts and truly learn the business (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I know how busy teachers are).
If his employers cared, his editors would have worked with him on research and polish. It appears they haven't.
Got a problem with an old guy showing off his ignorance about how the business really works? Three options:
There is no reason to expect anything different from Richard Wagoner. He's a listener, not a journalist, not a broadcaster or former broadcaster.
He's been doing it for 37 years, but he's also been teaching high school and didn't have the opportunity to build contacts and truly learn the business (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I know how busy teachers are).
If his employers cared, his editors would have worked with him on research and polish. It appears they haven't.
Got a problem with an old guy showing off his ignorance about how the business really works? Three options:
- Complain to the newspaper that prints his columns
- Offer to write them a better column for the same money (there doesn't seem to be a stampede)
- Don't read it, deal with the people who do and think he's right when they come here and thank God it's not a daily column.
I don't really care about any of that. He has an opinion, just like anyone else. I'm not looking to change him or his opinions.
I'm just saying that if what he does isn't any different from what I do, then I'm as qualified as he to call him out about what he says.
What you're saying reminds me of the criticism radio stations get when they program to maximize audience. Why don't these stations play this music or that format? Because we're just trying to get more attention. Just like Wagoner.
LA Times readers are, predominantly, in their 40's and beyond. Way beyond sometimes. And that is the demographic where almost 90% of the people listen to radio every week.
How many 25-year-old readers of the LA Times or NYT or WP do you know of?
Unless it deals with content on the radio that is of interest to LA Times readers.
Remember again who the readers, print or digital, of the LA Times are. They may well be interested in something interesting about current radio. I don't think a "Those Were The Days" approach, dredging up old radio artifacts lost decades ago, is of interest to anyone.
Are negative numbers accepted here?
Aside from trying to figure out how noses with glasses on them are going to post, regularly or not, it seems to me that the only downside to Wagoner’s writing is the irritation it may cause some broadcast professionals. Side effects may include bringing attention to something that would otherwise be ignored. If symptoms persist, consult your doctor.
It does help if you read the full sentence, not just the humorously descriptive part.. It is the "industry betters" that are doing the posting. And there is no shortage of them around. They always let you know who they are.
Yeah, but the sentence structure could’ve used some work.
Just checked with my English teacher, she says the structure is just fine. When posting snarky remarks, it helps to read twice before conmenting once.
Then your English teacher could use a refresher course.
You do realize that, despite your excessively irritable response, I was agreeing with you?
You do realize that, despite your excessively irritable response, I was agreeing with you?
I am not used to that sentiment around here.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Well, I still think he would be great writing a weekly column that told one of the historical events of local radio every week.
Honestly, I do.
Honestly, I do.
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