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2024 Ford Mustang Drops AM Radio From Infotainment

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Car makers could use DSP tech + a disclaimer in the owners manual(s) - AM radio is subject to more interference than FM radio, but your faithful car maker has used the latest DSP tech to try to improve the sound quality of AM radio.


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Why should the FCC mandate something (AM) the majority of the public clearly has no interest in? Just curious for the justification of that.
Fifty years too late?
 
Why should the FCC mandate something (AM) the majority of the public clearly has no interest in? Just curious for the justification of that.
To sustain the money stream it gets from AM station owners in license fees? Self-interest often trumps public interest when you're talking about government.
 
...the majority of the public clearly has no interest...
I'm finding that the majority of the public nowadays seemingly has little to no interest in anything that doesn't have a screen or constant connectivity to some sort of social media or streaming platform.

I'm not impressed.

If people need AM radio in cars then they won't buy cars that don't offer it.
Or, perhaps, if said cars still have some means of connecting to something via 3.5mm headphone jack, either directly or via an adapter, one can connect their choice of portable AM radio and listen that way.

Such a setup would almost certainly be inferior to even a low quality AM capable car stereo, of course, but at least it would be possible?

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I'm finding that the majority of the public nowadays seemingly has little to no interest in anything that doesn't have a screen or constant connectivity to some sort of social media or streaming platform.

I'm not impressed.


Or, perhaps, if said cars still have some means of connecting to something via 3.5mm headphone jack, either directly or via an adapter, one can connect their choice of portable AM radio and listen that way.

Such a setup would almost certainly be inferior to even a low quality AM capable car stereo, of course, but at least it would be possible?

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Where will one buy a portable am radio?
 
Where will one buy a portable am radio?
Not sure if you're being facetious, :) , but Amazon sells AM / FM portable radios for emergency use. I live in the hills outside San Francisco, and in my housing community, all the residents are advised to have a "Go" kit packed with a radio, food rations, extra water, etc., in case of immediate evacuation due to wildfire. The fire season in California has been bad this past decade.
 
Why should the FCC mandate something (AM) the majority of the public clearly has no interest in? Just curious for the justification of that.
On the other side of the coin, if 16% of the listening public listens to AM at least part of the time, shouldn't that be enough justification?

And if FEMA deems AM as a worthy enough backup for emergency information during major disasters, to where they'd pay out millions of dollars hardening some AM transmitting facilities -- as they did after 9-11 -- wouldn't that be enough justification?

I mean, if we're going to engage in conversations like this, all the factors should be considered.

I myself am unaware of any authority the FCC has over what equipment -- audio or radio or otherwise -- a car manufacturer can install in their automobiles. I think that's out of the FCC's realm. I think that matter is settled by the car company.

The rest is up to the consumer.
 
On the other side of the coin, if 16% of the listening public listens to AM at least part of the time, shouldn't that be enough justification?

And if FEMA deems AM as a worthy enough backup for emergency information during major disasters, to where they'd pay out millions of dollars hardening some AM transmitting facilities -- as they did after 9-11 -- wouldn't that be enough justification?
Every year, on average, six percent of the U.S. population buys a new car.

So if 16 percent of the listening public only ever tunes in AM radio even part of the time...

You see the math here on how many people are going to miss AM in the '24 Mustang.

I'll also go back to the math we've used in the EV discussions, and amend it for AM:

If every car in America stopped having AM capability today, it would take 16 back-to-back years tying the existing new car sales record to fully replace the vehicles currently in use that have AM radios.

We've never had TWO back-to-back record sales years. So figure realistically 20-25 years.

There's an argument to be made that the money should be spent hardening modern wireless communications that people actually use. And there's a pretty healthy window in which to do that.
 
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Where everyone else shops for every other item possible: online retailers.

I see plenty on Amazon, Walmart's site, and some other online retail sites.

And beyond online, Google tells me I can get portable AM/FM radios on the shelf at my local Walmart, Best Buy, Ace Hardware, Bass Pro Shops, Staples, Harbor Freight and Big 5 Sporting Goods, with prices ranging from $12.99 to $39.99 (the highest-priced one also has the weather band).
 
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Administrative fees cover the cost of paperwork at the Commission. Was never intended as a revenue source.
That's not what I've read here, I believe, from David. He can correct me, of course, if I misunderstood, but I thought I read that the FCC wants AM stations to remain on the air because the agency counts on them as a revenue stream.
 
That's not what I've read here, I believe, from David. He can correct me, of course, if I misunderstood, but I thought I read that the FCC wants AM stations to remain on the air because the agency counts on them as a revenue stream.
It's a revenue stream that covers the costs of administering AM licenses, including paperwork, reviews of sales and enforcement of violations, inspections, etc. It is a revenue stream, not a profit center.
 
Administrative fees cover the cost of paperwork at the Commission. Was never intended as a revenue source.
That's not what I've read here, I believe, from David. He can correct me, of course, if I misunderstood, but I thought I read that the FCC wants AM stations to remain on the air because the agency counts on them as a revenue stream.

The FCC uses the words "self supporting." Here is an article published today that explains FCC funding:


As in the past, the FCC would remain fiscally self-supporting in the coming fiscal year. Its $410 million budget would be paid for by the industries that are regulated – such as through annual regulatory fees and expected spectrum auctions. “The Commission is considering an auction of FM broadcast service construction permits in FY 2023 or FY 2024,” the FCC’s justification to Congress says.
 
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