2ND ME-TV IN L.A. (PRIMARY KVME) GETS ME-TV ON DISH & DIRECTV

[gregg75]

Don't really know the L.A. market, but current Me-TV on 56.3 couldn't get it on Dish or Directv, but as primary on KVME it will be a must carry.

I'm sure as large as L.A. is there will probably be some gaps in outlying areas.
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2012/04/17/58797/metv-adds-kvme-in-southern-california

 

[azumanga]

KVME is licensed to Bishop, California, which is in the Death Valley area -- as that station's coverage area excludes the greater LA metro area, I wouldn't get my hopes up for must-carry. One precedent is KMOH in Kingman, Arizona, which attempted to claim must-carry status for the Phoenix market through an LPTV in Phoenix -- the FCC nixed that idea.

 

[dhett]

Bishop is well north of Death Valley, even. But, being in the L.A. market, it will probably get on the satellite systems. KMOH is on the satellite systems in Phoenix, just not on Cox cable. The FCC precedent referenced above was a motion by Cox to exclude KMOH from being carried on the basic service tier.

 

[RadioFanBoy]

In the LA market, KVME is on both Dish and DirectTV Channel 20. Up until April 9th, it was known as KBBC running independent Spanish-language programs and public affairs in English on Saturday mornings (which it still does until April 30th when ME-TV takes over)

 

[gregg75]

That sounds like a win for L.A., taking a nothing station and making something
out of it.

Do you think the popularity of Me-TV will eventually force Dish and Directv to
carry them to compete with cable? Just seems after so many requests they'd
have to do it.

 

[JayR]

Do you think the popularity of Me-TV will eventually force Dish and Directv to carry them to compete with cable? Just seems after so many requests they'd have to do it.

Neither DBS provider has to do anything; however, it would be foolish not to carry the local ME-TV affiliate considering how much attention the network is receiving.

 

[Ultimajock]

Don't really know the L.A. market, but current Me-TV on 56.3 couldn't get it on Dish or Directv, but as primary on KVME it will be a must carry.

I'm sure as large as L.A. is there will probably be some gaps in outlying areas.
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2012/04/17/58797/metv-adds-kvme-in-southern-california

...although the Antelope Valley is between Los Angeles and Bishop, the station is not offered on the Time Warner Cable system in Lancaster or Palmdale...

 

[mgsports]

Then all METV'S Stations would have to be offered on S. Dish then they would be demand for THIS TV and so on to. So should local News and weather Channel's to.

 

[gregg75]

Well should that happen Me-TV will be at the top of the list, and I doubt they have any room for a
lot of also rans.

 

[Robnoxious]

I'm going to take this announcement with a grain of salt. KBBC/KVME is operated just as badly as KHIZ-Barstow and KVMD-Twentynine Palms. None of those high desert stations can keep an identity for very long and all fall back into their 24/7 infomercial/tele evangelical ways rather quickly.

This whole deal hinges solely on KVME being a part of the Los Angeles DMA which is a monumental joke on it's own because as the crow flies, Fresno is a mere 84 miles away versus ~284 miles to LA. Someone in Bishop has a better chance of catching Fresno television OTA (slim as they are because of the Sierra Nevadas between them) but more realistically Reno, Nevada if a repeater booster system were employed.

The only thing Bishop and Los Angeles have in common is the DWP holding their electrical power and water needs for ransom with their ridiculous rates. It pretty much ends there.

While it's neat that ME-TV utilized this wide anomaly of a loophole in the must-carry legislation with regards to the Los Angeles DMA and will make their presence known on satellite providers and cable outlets, this relationship with KVME I'm afraid will not last and will end rather badly. Count on it.

 

[Neel]

I never understood the "must carry" thing. Dish and DirecTV seem to carry everything even remotely close to LA as part of their Los Angeles locals package including KVME, KHIZ, KVMD, etc.. But cable on the other hand seems selective. For example, we get KVMD on Charter here in the San Gabriel Valley but it's licensed to Twentynine Palms and similarly we get KBEH from Oxnard. However, we don't get KHIZ or KVMD or even KVCR but I've seen other cable systems carry those channels in adjoining cities. And then there's FIOS; they carry some small station out of Temecula system-wide, I think KSZW or something like that.

 

[Robnoxious]

And then there's FIOS; they carry some small station out of Temecula system-wide, I think KSZW or something like that.

Fios So-Cal only has one head-in in Pomona, so in order to incorporate all of the markets they are branching out to serve it is just easier just to pipe them all in rather than squabble over regional nitpicking (it's not like they don't have the bandwidth anyways). That's why local spots over Fios can run the gambit of a furniture store in Santa Monica to a car dealership in Indio. Here in LOng Beach they are trying to pitch for localized spot advertising and they do fill some of those spots some of the time. Otherwise, we get adds for some place out in Desert Cities that we'd only know in passing while going to Lake Havasu.

 

[Joey1986]

I never understood the "must carry" thing. Dish and DirecTV seem to carry everything even remotely close to LA as part of their Los Angeles locals package including KVME, KHIZ, KVMD, etc.. But cable on the other hand seems selective. For example, we get KVMD on Charter here in the San Gabriel Valley but it's licensed to Twentynine Palms and similarly we get KBEH from Oxnard. However, we don't get KHIZ or KVMD or even KVCR but I've seen other cable systems carry those channels in adjoining cities. And then there's FIOS; they carry some small station out of Temecula system-wide, I think KSZW or something like that.

My Time Warner Cable (formerly Adelphia) lineup (City of Los Angeles) carries KBEH on analog channel 20, KVMD on analog channel 23, and KHIZ on analog channel 32. Interestingly enough, my parents' Time Warner Cable (formerly Comcast) lineup (Hollywood-Westchester) carries only KBEH (on digital channel 335). They don't have KVMD or KHIZ (not that they're missing much, since as we've discussed on here, those two channels show pretty much nothing but infomercials; what a waste of bandwidth, IMO.) KVME is not seen on any SoCal Time Warner Cable lineups that I know of.

Re: Fios and the "small station out of Temecula"--the call letters are actually KZSW, just to help out Neel Mehta.

 

[fybush]

This whole deal hinges solely on KVME being a part of the Los Angeles DMA which is a monumental joke on it's own because as the crow flies, Fresno is a mere 84 miles away versus ~284 miles to LA. Someone in Bishop has a better chance of catching Fresno television OTA (slim as they are because of the Sierra Nevadas between them) but more realistically Reno, Nevada if a repeater booster system were employed.

The only thing Bishop and Los Angeles have in common is the DWP holding their electrical power and water needs for ransom with their ridiculous rates. It pretty much ends there.

Ever lived in or near Bishop? I did, in the late 1980s.

There is nothing at all to connect Bishop and Fresno; the Sierra Nevadas are an impenetrable wall to both commerce and TV signals.

But since the 1950s, Bishop has received Los Angeles TV via translators and then eventually via cable. For many years, Bishop cable customers even received the LA FM dial via cable. LA's not especially close to Bishop (nothing is), but it's the closest major metropolitan area by road if you need services like a top-notch hospital or international airport or specialty shopping, the natural flow of commerce from Bishop is south along 395/14. You can buy the LA Times each day in Bishop. I'm pretty sure you can't get the Reno Gazette-Journal anymore, and you certainly can't get the Fresno Bee.

It was inevitable that Bishop would become part of the LA TV market; certainly nobody expected that there would someday be a Bishop TV station asserting must-carry in the opposite direction.

 

[Neel]

Not to get off topic but that explains why Mammoth carries Reno stations on their cable vs Fresno, which I expected the first time I went there. Geographically, Fresno is closest but the mountains make it part of Reno and I think, if I remember correctly, they had KTVU or a Sacramento station on their hotel line up.