'60s Songs You Don't Hear Anymore for Obvious Reasons...

[jfrancispastirchak]

Andy Kim was never a part of Sugarloaf and certainly did not sing lead for them.

Uh oh, messed up again! Jerry Corbetta was lead vocalist (and founder) of Sugarloaf, not Andy Kim. Last week I attributed an error to having a Joe Biden moment. I fear now I'm having Dan Quayle moments!

 

[deltas69]

Speaking of Sugarloaf..'"Don't Call Us...We'll Call You"...got that clever Beatle riff in it..

 

[Les Stock]

Speaking of Sugarloaf..'"Don't Call Us...We'll Call You"...got that clever Beatle riff in it..

...as well as a Stevie Wonder riff (Superstitious), and touch-tones to the Oval Office and a record company that dissed them...

 

[firepoint525]

My theory is (and I know David Eduardo will disagree) is that the only reason we hear what we hear on classic hits stations, is because we have been force fed the same, repetitive music for years on radio, so as to the new listeners tuning in the classic hits and of course, never lived in the classic era, to them it's something "new" and accept and TEST these songs as the ONLY oldies they are familiar with and ever have heard! And since radio does not cater to 55+ (supposedly), we are stuck hearing the same limited songs that the 35-40 year olds enjoy, NOT what WE enjoy and remember, back in the day!!

I have just about reached the conclusion that radio just simply does not WANT to play more than the handful of songs that they already play, and that they are using "listeners" as scapegoats. I say this because I read many NON-radio message boards, and they have the same or similar complaints that many of us have here. So it isn't just us as radiophiles noticing the limited playlists. Everyday listeners are noticing it, too. And radio supposedly caters to them, and not us. :

 

[firepoint525]

Now, some of the other songs listed in this tread are played from time to time, others have been forgotten. My guess is that they don't test well (for whatever reason). Frankly, I wish that I was on the side of the glass where I could be 'tested' - because I'd give "Brown Eyed Girl" and "It's the Same Old Song" two of the biggest thumbs-down you've ever seen!

It's really a shame that for an artist who has had such a long and illustrious career as Van Morrison has had (and he's still out there!) that he would be pegged as a one-hit wonder. At least the classic hits station here (despite their otherwise limited playlist) still pulls out "Wild Night" and plays it from time to time, but I have a feeling that they only do so because of listener familiarity with John Mellencamp's cover version (which I believe was actually the bigger hit of the two competing versions), but still can't play Mellencamp's version because it is still too "recent."

 

[storrs19]

Andy Kim was never a part of Sugarloaf and certainly did not sing lead for them.

Uh oh, messed up again! Jerry Corbetta was lead vocalist (and founder) of Sugarloaf, not Andy Kim. Last week I attributed an error to having a Joe Biden moment. I fear now I'm having Dan Quayle moments!

That's good, lol. I have those moments quite often in real life. Now when it comes to totally useless information like who did what and when in music, I'm usually right. Too bad that doesn't pay anything.

 

[FRR]

Most of the songs listed on this thread, especially the sixties tunes can be heard on WDJO in Cincinnati every day or so. A great oldies station run by folks who love the format and don't care too much about being "politically correct". They are on the web and you can listen all day and most of the nights.

 

[nocomradio]

I have to agree with Firepoint on both the above posts.

I have local stations that love to play the same songs over and over and over again. I have heard on many occasions the same song played as many as three times within a 12 hour period from one. That is ridiculous and serves no good purpose. They also do a segment called "Oh Wow" songs where they play something supposedly unheard regularly. The last one about an hour ago was Stevie Wonder "Superstition" I kid you not. Really. [shakes head]

I think the familiarity for the PD's keeps them comfortable and therefore less apt to have to work too hard. Of course they in turn blame the station management. Maybe the fear of one or two listeners changing the station is a factor too, but honestly, if someone runs from your dial spot simply because you play a song or two that isn't mainstream, then I doubt you'd have kept them anyway.

 

[jfrancispastirchak]

Most of the songs listed on this thread, especially the sixties tunes can be heard on WDJO in Cincinnati every day or so. A great oldies station run by folks who love the format and don't care too much about being "politically correct". They are on the web and you can listen all day and most of the nights.

FRR: Great post. Thanks for that info!

 

[jfrancispastirchak]

I have to agree with Firepoint on both the above posts.

I have local stations that love to play the same songs over and over and over again. I have heard on many occasions the same song played as many as three times within a 12 hour period from one. That is ridiculous and serves no good purpose. They also do a segment called "Oh Wow" songs where they play something supposedly unheard regularly. The last one about an hour ago was Stevie Wonder "Superstition" I kid you not. Really. [shakes head]

I think the familiarity for the PD's keeps them comfortable and therefore less apt to have to work too hard. Of course they in turn blame the station management. Maybe the fear of one or two listeners changing the station is a factor too, but honestly, if someone runs from your dial spot simply because you play a song or two that isn't mainstream, then I doubt you'd have kept them anyway.

nocomradio: gutsy observation about PDs and "comfortable". I agree; programming unfamiliar music makes some of them antsy...

 

[Randy Roadz]

i can`t remember the last time i heard brewer and shippley`s "one toke over the line" on the radio.

Try my station... 1030 KMAS / KOOL 104.1 online at www.kmas.com or www.kool1041.com

 

[Randy Roadz]

I believe Andy Kim's "Green-Eyed Lady" was more edgy, more powerful than "Rock Me...", which may explain why we don't hear much airplay on that one either. Percussion work on "Green-Eyed..." rivals the masterpiece by Dire Straits, "Sultan of Swing".

"Green-Eyed Lady?" Wasn't that Sugarloaf, not Andy Kim?

Andy Kim was front vocalist for Sugarloaf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kim

You need to read up on Andy Kim. He had NOTHING to do with Sugarloaf. He DID co-write Sugar Sugar though.

 

[firepoint525]

I have to agree with Firepoint on both the above posts.
I have local stations that love to play the same songs over and over and over again. I have heard on many occasions the same song played as many as three times within a 12 hour period from one. That is ridiculous and serves no good purpose. They also do a segment called "Oh Wow" songs where they play something supposedly unheard regularly. The last one about an hour ago was Stevie Wonder "Superstition" I kid you not. Really. [shakes head]
I think the familiarity for the PD's keeps them comfortable and therefore less apt to have to work too hard. Of course they in turn blame the station management. Maybe the fear of one or two listeners changing the station is a factor too, but honestly, if someone runs from your dial spot simply because you play a song or two that isn't mainstream, then I doubt you'd have kept them anyway.

Thanks. Your situation reminds me of the Clear Channel classic rock station here in Nashville that played what they called a "deep cut" by the Beatles, and it turned out to be "Hey Jude"! The biggest hit by the biggest band of all time is a "deep cut"?

 

[jfrancispastirchak]

I believe Andy Kim's "Green-Eyed Lady" was more edgy, more powerful than "Rock Me...", which may explain why we don't hear much airplay on that one either. Percussion work on "Green-Eyed..." rivals the masterpiece by Dire Straits, "Sultan of Swing".

"Green-Eyed Lady?" Wasn't that Sugarloaf, not Andy Kim?

Andy Kim was front vocalist for Sugarloaf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kim

You need to read up on Andy Kim. He had NOTHING to do with Sugarloaf. He DID co-write Sugar Sugar though.

Randy-- you're right, but that train left the station yesterday. See Reply #40, 10:12:17 AM...

 

[oldies76]

Thanks. Your situation reminds me of the Clear Channel classic rock station here in Nashville that played what they called a "deep cut" by the Beatles, and it turned out to be "Hey Jude"! The biggest hit by the biggest band of all time is a "deep cut"?

Obviously, the target audience did not live in 1968, so they would not know any better. How depressing!

 

[oldies76]

They also do a segment called "Oh Wow" songs where they play something supposedly unheard regularly. The last one about an hour ago was Stevie Wonder "Superstition" I kid you not. Really. [shakes head]

You're kidding! ???

"I Don't Know Why", a great classic by Stevie from '69, could be considered "Oh Wow"

 

[johnbasalla]

"The Wedding" by Julie Rogers, an early 1965 hit by this A/C singer from London England. It was a Top 10 hit. Probably rode in on the British Invasion. In fact, this was before my music intensive years, and before I really started listening to radio so I have never actually heard this hit played on the radio...ever.

 

[cyberdad]

You need to read up on Andy Kim. He had NOTHING to do with Sugarloaf. He DID co-write Sugar Sugar though.

Why does it do the way it does?

 

[jfrancispastirchak]

You need to read up on Andy Kim. He had NOTHING to do with Sugarloaf. He DID co-write Sugar Sugar though.

Why does it do the way it does?

HUH ??

 

[cyberdad]

Why does it do the way it does?

HUH ??
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If anyone else here can explain "Why does it do the way it does" I'll let them explain. If no one knows what that refers to, I'll explain it.