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790 WQSV, Ashland City is selling out to the Mexicans!

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scottwmro

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I got word over the weekend that Corky Albright, owner of WQSV in Ashland City, has sold his station to a Hispanic Group out of Irving, TX for a big $600,000.00. I’m sure he loves the money, but this leaves that community without a local station, due to the community (black & white) speaks English and are hometown folks. The reason why I say that is because most of the Ashland City’s population is non-Hispanic.

The Fairview station (850 WPFD) has been taken over by the guy that owns 1380 WHEW, in Franklin.

This is sad, really sad. Our government is allowing the AM band to be taken over by illegal aliens that these damn home contractors brought up here, gave them a job, and when the job was finish, instead of sending them back to Mexico, that linger in the streets here. What is the U.S. coming to? :'(

How do you guys feel about this?
 
Doesn't the FCC require a licensee to be a US Citizen. Is this Hispanic Group a shell corp with a US citizen listed on the application?

The hispanic situation is out of control, their governments want people to cross the border because they cannot provide even basic services for their citizens.

Our government has totally dropped the ball on this issue. Instead of sending troops to Iraq, about a surge of troops on the border to stop this crap.

Stop sending financial aid to Mexico, Hondurus, or any other Central American country until they close their own borders.
 
This is the first I've heard about any of this, but if it is true, then Corky got far more for his sorry excuse for a station than it is worth. I knew they were in trouble, at least from the time my parents moved here (to Pegram) almost eight years ago. They are (were?) the only station whose broadcasts originate(d) here in Cheatham County, and yet my parents never listen to them. My dad keeps WSM on in the garage, sort of as aural wallpaper, and listens to the Dickson station (WDKN 1260) for their "swap-n-shop" programming. WQSV has never really served the South Cheatham area (Kingston Springs and Pegram). The Cumberland River forms such a natural divide across the county that many of us here in Pegram are more likely to go to Bellevue and west Nashville to shop (and work) than to Ashland City. I believe WQSV's programming is aimed more at the Ashland City-Pleasant View half of the county than to us. We (Pegram) might just as well be annexed by metro (or at least Bellevue), and Kingston Springs might as well join Dickson County. I don't even need to go to Ashland City on county business. I can register my car at Community Bank, and I can get my driver's license at the examining center off Centennial Blvd. (Can't even get a driver's license in Ashland City! Must go to Nashville, Clarksville, or Dickson County!) There was even a letter in the South Cheatham Advocate (our local weekly paper) suggesting that South Cheatham secede from the rest of the county (north of the Cumberland) and form our own county!

WQSV has a piss-poor signal, especially at night. I seriously doubt many Cheatham Countians are even aware that they exist! Bon Voyage, Corky! We won't miss you here! ::)

But Cheatham County is about 97% white. I wonder if the buyers of WQSV know that! Their signal won't reach much (if any) beyond the county lines.
 
Tenn Radio Boy said:
Doesn't the FCC require a licensee to be a US Citizen. Is this Hispanic Group a shell corp with a US citizen listed on the application?

There is a limit (25%?) to the permissible amount of foreign control of a US station.

I saw the application for transfer, didn't recognize the transferee & they don't come up as the owners of any other broadcast stations. But that's not unusual, it may be co-owned at some other level.

Right now the station is still in English.

This move is probably all that really makes sense for this station. Most of the business in the county is national chains, and the Anglo audience is fragmented by dozens of Nashville and Clarksville English stations that blanket the county with excellent signals.

You would be surprised how many Hispanics you'd encounter in daily life in Cheatham County. And none of the market's existing Hispanic stations have a decent signal up here - so a Spanish-language WQSV will have little to no competition.
 
w9wi said:
Tenn Radio Boy said:
Doesn't the FCC require a licensee to be a US Citizen. Is this Hispanic Group a shell corp with a US citizen listed on the application?

There is a limit (25%?) to the permissible amount of foreign control of a US station.

I saw the application for transfer, didn't recognize the transferee & they don't come up as the owners of any other broadcast stations. But that's not unusual, it may be co-owned at some other level.

Right now the station is still in English.

This move is probably all that really makes sense for this station. Most of the business in the county is national chains, and the Anglo audience is fragmented by dozens of Nashville and Clarksville English stations that blanket the county with excellent signals.

You would be surprised how many Hispanics you'd encounter in daily life in Cheatham County. And none of the market's existing Hispanic stations have a decent signal up here - so a Spanish-language WQSV will have little to no competition.

Corky filed an application on 2/15/07. It is on the FCC's CDBS database. Corky just got a power increase from 500 watts to 2 KW some time back. I can hear 790 in Gallatin, and it comes in good near Downtown since he took it to 2 KW.

I'm wondering why Bud Walters just didn't sell 1550 to the Hispanics? Doug, something tells me after the 830 move is granted, the commission will let him keep 1550 on. I know he is to abondon 1550 after the 830 move is granted, but politics and strings can be pulled and that very thing could happen. I've seen it too many times.

The station is still in English due to the application has not been granted, but they can do a LMA and go ahead and take over.

NOW, lets see what he and his two partners to with 1060 in Waverly.
 
I see three different topics wound together in this thread.

As you may have noticed in presidential politics this year, our nation is divided big time over the issue of allowing Mexican nationals to have access to enter our country. That is a political-social-econimic-religious issue that has a life of it's own that goes far beyond broadcasting.

If there are Spanish speaking people living in an area, whether native born, naturalized or illegal, is it within the legal paramaters of broadcasting, and the traditions of American broadcasting that some stations would have specialized broadcasts for them. Northern cities have long had stations broadcasting to the Polish and other language groups. Out west there are stations broadcasting to Native Americans. In the upper midwest you find the stations that cater to polka music. Isn't that a form of ethic broadcasting?

Ownership is another topic. In my area we have stations broadcasting in Spanish that I think are owned by a Chinese gentleman, and other stations broadcasting in Spanish owned by an African American. I don't think there is much liklihood that someone who swam the Rio Grande or sneaked through the dessert of Arizona is going to pluck chickens for Tyson for a couple of years and end up buying out a radio station.
 
...and I have this question: How can all of these Nashville area hispanic-language stations be supported by the Nashville area advertising community, even including both hispanic-owned businesses and other businesses wanting to reach hispanics? Where is the research? How can they possibly make enough money for all of them to thrive?
 
jetfli said:
...and I have this question: How can all of these Nashville area hispanic-language stations be supported by the Nashville area advertising community, even including both hispanic-owned businesses and other businesses wanting to reach hispanics? Where is the research? How can they possibly make enough money for all of them to thrive?

I can tell you one way these Hispanic Owned & Operated stations make money, and it's the illegal way. There is more to it than the nasty taco stands along Murfreesboro Rd and Thompson Ln. It's brought in at the border, if you know what I mean.

When WYXE here in Gallatin was sold from Richard Deck and Gary Frank (who now owns WTNK in Hartsville) to the Hispanics that have it now, I did engineering work for them. They always payed me CASH and they always had loads of cash in thier pockets.

I had the pleasure of turning off 1130 WYXE's "Wixie in Dixie's Classic Country Format at the transmitter, disconnecting the ISDN line from the studio in Hendersonville, and hooking up the ISDN line from the hispanic studio on Murfreesboro Rd to the transmitter in Gallatin. I think the last song play in English was from Loretta Lynn, but I forget the title. During the song, Mr. Deck gave me the command to pull the plug, and I did.

When the hispanic/spanish jocks and music came on, damn...it stirred up the whole country music community of Sumner County. They were calling me at Magic 1560 asking what has happen to Wixie in Dixie!
 
scottwmro said:
I'm wondering why Bud Walters just didn't sell 1550 to the Hispanics? Doug, something tells me after the 830 move is granted, the commission will let him keep 1550 on. I know he is to abondon 1550 after the 830 move is granted, but politics and strings can be pulled and that very thing could happen. I've seen it too many times.

I've not seen anything like that.

It's not the same thing as the expanded-band situation.

But these days, you never know...

(certainly once 830 comes on, someone could apply for a *new* 1550 facility in Clarksville - but they'd have to re-implement the directional antenna as you can't have a new Class D station anymore)
 
scottwmro said:
I can tell you one way these Hispanic Owned & Operated stations make money, and it's the illegal way. There is more to it than the nasty taco stands along Murfreesboro Rd and Thompson Ln. It's brought in at the border, if you know what I mean.

Are you suggesting there's a smuggling ring dealing in spot inventory?
 
jetfli said:
Are you suggesting there's a smuggling ring dealing in spot inventory?

sure: you can buy your :60s or :30s in little baggies...
the :10s come wrapped in foil.

just what I heard... ;)
 
w9wi said:
scottwmro said:
I'm wondering why Bud Walters just didn't sell 1550 to the Hispanics? Doug, something tells me after the 830 move is granted, the commission will let him keep 1550 on. I know he is to abondon 1550 after the 830 move is granted, but politics and strings can be pulled and that very thing could happen. I've seen it too many times.

I've not seen anything like that.

I have.

WCGR Canandaigua NY, 250 w ND-D on 1550. Got a CP in the mid-90s to move to 1310, 2500 w-DA, fulltime. A few months before it came on the air, they got the FCC to "recharacterize" the 1310 app as a new station, and to keep 1550 where it was. 1310 signed on as WCGR, 1550 became WLKA, simulcasting. Then 1310 was sold to a new owner, and the WCGR calls moved back to 1550, where they reside today.
 
Scott Fybush said:
w9wi said:
scottwmro said:
I'm wondering why Bud Walters just didn't sell 1550 to the Hispanics? Doug, something tells me after the 830 move is granted, the commission will let him keep 1550 on. I know he is to abondon 1550 after the 830 move is granted, but politics and strings can be pulled and that very thing could happen. I've seen it too many times.

I've not seen anything like that.

I have.

WCGR Canandaigua NY, 250 w ND-D on 1550. Got a CP in the mid-90s to move to 1310, 2500 w-DA, fulltime. A few months before it came on the air, they got the FCC to "recharacterize" the 1310 app as a new station, and to keep 1550 where it was. 1310 signed on as WCGR, 1550 became WLKA, simulcasting. Then 1310 was sold to a new owner, and the WCGR calls moved back to 1550, where they reside today.

Scott,
Your right, if you know somebody in DC at the Media Branch, you can pull some strings and get things like this done. Scott, don't get me wrong, I like Bud Walters, but he's got political power and can get things like this done, making him mega money. His FM stations (102.5 & 102.9) are low rated in the Nashville Market, but I doubt he cares.
I look for 1550 to stay on in Clarksville, TN, way after 830 goes on, and a hispanic format will go on that channel. He will move his Urban Gospel format to 830 to compete with Peter Davidson's 880 WNSG.
 
scottwmro said:
I can tell you one way these Hispanic Owned & Operated stations make money, and it's the illegal way. There is more to it than the nasty taco stands along Murfreesboro Rd and Thompson Ln. It's brought in at the border, if you know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean. And I have been involved in Spanish langauge media for 45 years. Radio stations programmed for Spanish speaking Hispanics make their money just like radio stations programmed for Polish speaking Poles or English speaking Americans... they sell advertising and remotes and web banners and such.

Just saying something is illegal does not make it so; firing off an unfounded salvo is worse than the vague crimes you are accusing Hispanic stations of committing.

When WYXE here in Gallatin was sold from Richard Deck and Gary Frank (who now owns WTNK in Hartsville) to the Hispanics that have it now, I did engineering work for them. They always payed me CASH and they always had loads of cash in thier pockets.

Hispanic culture is more cash based. So?

The reasons are multiple. First, for those who may have spent part of their lives outside the US, inflation and bank instability are common, so keeping cash on hand is considered far more prudent than among multi-generation Americans. Second, in the US, banks have traditionally shunned Hispanic business so there are more cash transactions among Hispanics. There is nothing illegal about any of this... it is just a preference towards cash transactions.
 
DavidEduardo said:
scottwmro said:
I can tell you one way these Hispanic Owned & Operated stations make money, and it's the illegal way. There is more to it than the nasty taco stands along Murfreesboro Rd and Thompson Ln. It's brought in at the border, if you know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean. And I have been involved in Spanish langauge media for 45 years. Radio stations programmed for Spanish speaking Hispanics make their money just like radio stations programmed for Polish speaking Poles or English speaking Americans... they sell advertising and remotes and web banners and such.

Just saying something is illegal does not make it so; firing off an unfounded salvo is worse than the vague crimes you are accusing Hispanic stations of committing.

When WYXE here in Gallatin was sold from Richard Deck and Gary Frank (who now owns WTNK in Hartsville) to the Hispanics that have it now, I did engineering work for them. They always payed me CASH and they always had loads of cash in thier pockets.

Hispanic culture is more cash based. So?

The reasons are multiple. First, for those who may have spent part of their lives outside the US, inflation and bank instability are common, so keeping cash on hand is considered far more prudent than among multi-generation Americans. Second, in the US, banks have traditionally shunned Hispanic business so there are more cash transactions among Hispanics. There is nothing illegal about any of this... it is just a preference towards cash transactions.

David,
You may be doing it the right way, and the legal way, BUT, the group that I worked for in "03", I question their business practices.

US banks have shunned hispanic business? Now I question that!

Fifteen years ago, we didn't have this problem of hispanics taking over local AM radio stations, and leaving suburban communities without local English service. Now, it's all over the AM Dial. The major players haven't allow a hispanic format on FM in this market yet, but I see it coming.

The owner of 1380 WHEW has got ahold of AM 850, WPFD-AM, which had a fantastic Classic Country following in a 97% white based community and turned it into a hispanic station. The Nashville Hispanic Chamber of Commerce wrote an article on him and praised him for what he's doing. This is getting out of hand and needs to stop! That's not serving the community of Fairview at all!

The one and only locally owned and operated FM in this market, Lighting 100, WRLT-FM has had offers from hispanic groups to buy the station with money figures that are so unreal, one wonders where the money is coming from! Thank God Lester Turner won't sell to a Hispanic Group and I had a jock that works for him tell me so!
 
scottwmro said:
You may be doing it the right way, and the legal way, BUT, the group that I worked for in "03", I question their business practices.

Then you should focus on a sleazy operator, which has nothing to do with ethnicity. Sleazy operators such as the pedophiles that have recently lost licences, or the ones from the past like Don Burden, occur occasionally and are a reflection on the individual.

Hispanics have owned essentially all the stations in Puerto Rico for 85 years. Yet the only license revocation was against an "Anglo" owner, O Roy Chalk. So would that mean that all non-Hispanic owners are corrupt based on one experience? Your example, assuming even that it is tru, was expanded on by your statement that indicated that such behaviour which you have not witnessed is widespread only because you think Hispanic owners are corrupt.

US banks have shunned hispanic business? Now I question that!

In most markets, banks only have paid attention to Hispanics once the Hispanic presence becomes so large as to be impossible to hide. I can regale you with stories from big Hispanic markets in the US where an advertiser said "I don't want those people in my bank" or where a dealer associiation for a higher end car said, "your listeners don't buy my cars, they steal them." Even today, a third of the Fortune 500 consumer goods companies son't use Hispanic media. That is "shun" with capital letters.

Fifteen years ago, we didn't have this problem of hispanics taking over local AM radio stations,

First, why is serving an audience group that has grown into prominence a "problem?" Radio identifies markets, such as lovers of 80's music or partisans of country, and delivers programming. In this case, the growth of the Hispanic group invites stations that have heretofor not been able to find economic success to try a new option that may actually work.

Traditionally, the first stations in a market have switched to Spanish or other ethnic formats because they were unable to compete in general market. As the market develops, then larger facilities come in.

and leaving suburban communities without local English service.

Very marginal and unprofitable stations generally render much in the way of service. And the idea that small stations provide some kind of special suburban service that the metro flamethrowers don't provide is one I find to be lacking in many ways.

The one and only locally owned and operated FM in this market, Lighting 100, WRLT-FM has had offers from hispanic groups to buy the station with money figures that are so unreal, one wonders where the money is coming from!

Hispanic radio is the only growing sector in radio today. The money comes from the growth of this sector and the fact that advertisers are more and more liekly to target Hispanics today.

As your local Hispanic ocmmunity grows, it is very likely that there will be bigger and better Hispanic stations... look at Atlanta, where now there are two good signal FMs in Spanish, as opposed to a few years ago when the stations were daytime AMs, defective coverage AMs or rimshot Class A FMs.
 
Thanks for the history lesson. Now let's ship all the illegals back to Tijuana and let their government worry about. What do you think the percentage of legalized hispanics in Middle TN would be if you took the illegals out of the equation?

I think it would be a healthly number despite the non documented aliens.
They seem to marry large caucasian women and have a house full of kids. The kids are citizens of the US right?

I am not up on immigration law. Help us understand it better.
 
Now let's ship all the illegals back to Tijuana and let their government worry about. What do you think the percentage of legalized hispanics in Middle TN would be if you took the illegals out of the equation?


And doing that would affect radio how?
 
Tenn Radio Boy said:
Thanks for the history lesson. Now let's ship all the illegals back to Tijuana and let their government worry about. What do you think the percentage of legalized hispanics in Middle TN would be if you took the illegals out of the equation?

I think it would be a healthly number despite the non documented aliens.
They seem to marry large caucasian women and have a house full of kids. The kids are citizens of the US right?

I am not up on immigration law. Help us understand it better.

1. 80% of US Hispanics are legal.
2. Your stereotype of marrying ugly caucasians is untrue.
3. Childeren born in the US are US Citizens by birth..
 
Scott Fybush said:
WCGR Canandaigua NY, 250 w ND-D on 1550. Got a CP in the mid-90s to move to 1310, 2500 w-DA, fulltime. A few months before it came on the air, they got the FCC to "recharacterize" the 1310 app as a new station, and to keep 1550 where it was. 1310 signed on as WCGR, 1550 became WLKA, simulcasting. Then 1310 was sold to a new owner, and the WCGR calls moved back to 1550, where they reside today.

Strange. I'm surprised their competitors let them get away with it. Maybe that shows what an AM daytimer is really worth these days? ;)

(then again, with the "OK, I guess you *don't* have to give up your regular band license once your X-band operation has been on for five years" attitude in Washington, maybe one *shouldn't* be surprised? I will admit to considerable surprise when I saw WMHG-1600 surrendered their license because their X-bander reached its fifth birthday...)
 
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