91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

[salemjedi54]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

1. Move to their city of license

Gee- you are just not a very nice person, are you. Why don't you try finding Jesus as your personal savior through your black gospel music.

I have done just that.

So just chill dog, chill. On the cool, why don't you take your own advice...Get some investors and get KMAD into the D/FW metro. If that dog won't hunt then be quiet.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

In an attempt to lighten up the proceedings here...

...what amounts to an attempt to make money off of the sale of a "translator" that is unnecessary
for its primary station. Sounds a bit like "money changing" to me.

I didn't know Blago was moonlighting in Texas. ;D

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

So just chill dog, chill. On the cool, why don't you take your own advice...Get some investors and get KMAD into the D/FW metro. If that dog won't hunt then be quiet.

That actually isn't a bad idea --- a few months ago when Lonestar had so much country we were really short of a good classic rock station. I still like the mix of classic rock on KMAD much better than Lonestar or the Bone. So do a lot of other people.

Another station I would love to see move in would be 92.9. Dump the 80's and 90's stuff - make it like HOT 95.7 in Houston, it would really make a splash in the ratings. I think only Waco would be a problem - move it to McKinney on a tall stick, protect 93.1 to the North, and it wouldn't hurt anything.

Putting a translator on the air seems to be the quickest way to announce there is a blank frequency for a move-in. Just ask Calvary Chapel - they put a 97.5 translator on in Dallas, then KLAK moves in.

 

[txchipk]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Complaint 08-C00079130 filed with the FCC. Hopefully with the regulations on our side we can get the jamming stopped for all KMAD listeners. The form is form 2000 - everybody that cares about KMAD, please file.

If you're bored, I suppose it can't hurt - but it won't make any difference, either. The only complaint the FCC will listen to in a case like this is the one that comes from the station being interfered with, as I explained in some detail a few posts back. That process works, at least some of the time, but all the t's have to be crossed and i's dotted to make it happen.

I'm still not sure that would work. K273BJ's 40 dBU curve does not cross KMAD-FM's protected 60 dBU contours...I believe that is all that is required for class D translators in terms of co-channel spacing. (KMAD-FM (C2) and K273BJ (D) are more than 105 km apart, FWIW).

As the FCC states on its webpage for calculating the contours(http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/curves.html)..."Please be aware that stations can often be heard in locations beyond the protected service contour, but that service is not protected from interference caused by other stations."

A C2's protected contour is 60 dBU and KMAD-FM's protected contour ends in northern Collin County: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM623234.html

 

[txchipk]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Another station I would love to see move in would be 92.9. Dump the 80's and 90's stuff - make it like HOT 95.7 in Houston, it would really make a splash in the ratings. I think only Waco would be a problem - move it to McKinney on a tall stick, protect 93.1 to the North, and it wouldn't hurt anything.

92.9 can't put a tower in McKinney. FCC spacing requirements to second adjacent FMs (KZPS 92.5, KDBN 93.3 in this case) would basically limit it to where KNOR 93.7's xmtr is in southwest Cooke Co/northeast Wise Co area. KNOR has the same issue...spacing to KDBN's C2 facility in west Dallas Co and a full C in Cedar Hill (KLNO 94.1 in their case). Such a facility would also likely have problems with KTRX 92.7 outside Ardmore OK, KMKT 93.1, and KSTV-FM 93.1 Dublin/Stephenville.

 

[txchipk]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Complaint 08-C00079130 filed with the FCC. Hopefully with the regulations on our side we can get the jamming stopped for all KMAD listeners. The form is form 2000 - everybody that cares about KMAD, please file.

If you're bored, I suppose it can't hurt - but it won't make any difference, either. The only complaint the FCC will listen to in a case like this is the one that comes from the station being interfered with, as I explained in some detail a few posts back. That process works, at least some of the time, but all the t's have to be crossed and i's dotted to make it happen.

I'm still not sure that would work. K273BJ's 40 dBU curve does not cross KMAD-FM's protected 60 dBU contours...I believe that is all that is required for class D translators in terms of co-channel spacing. (KMAD-FM (C2) and K273BJ (D) are more than 105 km apart, FWIW).

As the FCC states on its webpage for calculating the contours(http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/curves.html)..."Please be aware that stations can often be heard in locations beyond the protected service contour, but that service is not protected from interference caused by other stations."

A C2's protected contour is 60 dBU and KMAD-FM's protected contour ends in northern Collin County: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM623234.html

The rest of my post was lost...to continue...

I think the only remedy would be for KMAD-FM to move south to co-owned KLAK 97.5's facility. Translators (or any class D) have to make way for full power stations. The 97.5 Dallas religious translator had to move south and west and downgrade when KLAK moved to its present facility. The issue might be with KBRQ 102.5 Hillsboro/Waco though. It's contour is further north than KWTX-FM 97.5 Waco...KMAD-FM may be restricted by that.

 

[fybush]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Chip is correct about the interference protections that govern spacing for the licensing of FM translators.

But there's another regulation at play, 74.1203. And the only criterion that governs 74.1203 is "actual interference." No reference to protected contours - just "direct reception by the public."

The 74.1203 clause has been invoked, successfully and very recently, to get translators far outside the "victim" station's protected contours to get off the frequency. (And if Chip e-mails me off the boards, I'll be happy to supply actual call letters and circumstances...)

Sec. 74.1203 Interference.

(a) An authorized FM translator or booster station will not be
permitted to continue to operate if it causes any actual interference
to:

(1) The transmission of any authorized broadcast station; or

(2) The reception of the input signal of any TV translator, TV booster,
FM translator or FM booster station; or

(3) The direct reception by the public of the off-the-air signals of
any authorized broadcast station including TV Channel 6 stations, Class
D (secondary) noncommercial educational FM stations, and previously
authorized and operating FM translators and FM booster stations.
Interference will be considered to occur whenever reception of a
regularly used signal is impaired by the signals radiated by the FM
translator or booster station, regardless of the quality of such
reception, the strength of the signal so used, or the channel on which
the protected signal is transmitted.

(b) If interference cannot be properly eliminated by the application of
suitable techniques, operation of the offending FM translator or
booster station shall be suspended and shall not be resumed until the
interference has been eliminated. Short test transmissions may be made
during the period of suspended operation to check the efficacy of
remedial measures. If a complainant refuses to permit the FM translator
or booster licensee to apply remedial techniques which demonstrably
will eliminate the interference without impairment to the original
reception, the licensee of the FM translator or booster station is
absolved of further responsibility for that complaint.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

(3) The direct reception by the public of the off-the-air signals of

The KMAD people are now aware of the situation, thanked me warmly for the heads-up, and it sounds like they may indeed file a complaint with the FCC. However, the more people that also send in complaints, the better. The time to stop this is NOW - not when it is grandfathered in.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

The 102.5 translator seems to have reduced power, reception in Plano of KMAD has cleared up a lot. The translator is still too powerful, though, as some of the translater cr@p still bleeds in from time to time. But you folks in McKinney should now have clear reception.

Keep those complaints going to the FCC and KMAD - maybe we can get this cr@p shut down completely!

Now if we can just get KSKY off of 92.9 ---

 

[DXER24]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

This is far from over I'm getting an awful signal still in Carrollton and Lewisville

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

This is far from over I'm getting an awful signal still in Carrollton and Lewisville

Apparently they were just having technical problems that day of the near ice-storm. They are back to interfering with KMAD in Plano. WE NEED MORE PROTESTS to the FCC - or get ready for the church of nine commandments blasting their niche format all over the metroplex. BLEAH!

 

[salemjedi54]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

This is far from over I'm getting an awful signal still in Carrollton and Lewisville

Apparently they were just having technical problems that day of the near ice-storm. They are back to interfering with KMAD in Plano. WE NEED MORE PROTESTS to the FCC - or get ready for the church of nine commandments blasting their niche format all over the metroplex. BLEAH!

Good, we can hear some good preaching, teaching and great gospel music. We all need some Spiritual QC's, Kirk Franklin, Yolanda Adams or Fred Hammond(who is a Dallas resident) in our lives.....

 

[thathoustonradiogeek]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Mr. Carter, I know you're passionate about your favorite radios stations (just as I am about mine), but,

Dude, chill out. You're going to give yourself a 5-alarm stroke.

It's too soon for you to join Mike_O in the Great Listening Room in the Sky.

 

[Scotpfv]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

The 102.5 signal wipes out KHBR for those of us on the southern portion of the metroplex. 91.7 has a strong signal, why do they need a repeater?

 

[txchipk]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

The 102.5 signal wipes out KHBR for those of us on the southern portion of the metroplex. 91.7 has a strong signal, why do they need a repeater?

If you check towards the beginning of the thread, you will see KVTT doesn't own it. It is owned by someone who is planning to sell it to KGGR 1040 for them to use as a FM relay and allow them nighttime programming.

KHBR 102.5...that is old-school. 102.5 Hillsboro hasn't had the call letters since the early 1980s when they changed to KJNE.

 

[Scotpfv]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Your correct, KHBR is the AM (1560). KBRQ is the FM classic rock "The Bear". My bad. Was typing faster than my brain was working.

 

[salemjedi54]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

KGGR is now airing their programming on the 102.5 frequency. It was good to hear The Clark Sisters over the air instead of my XM Radio in my vehicle. Even made 102.5 a preset on my car radio.

 

[greencougar7]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

an absolute waste. someone call Mike price at Mortensen and have him fix it,then again if you did it will get done tomorrow or next week ,maybe a month,,two years?

 

[radioaircheck]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

Wow. you must have worked for Mike Price before because you hit it dead on!!

 

[salemjedi54]

Re: 91.7 "THE TRUTH" RUINS "CLASSIC ROCK EXPERIENCE" RIMSHOT AT 102.5

an absolute waste. someone call Mike price at Mortensen and have him fix it,then again if you did it will get done tomorrow or next week ,maybe a month,,two years?

What is being wasted? Its a joy to me.