A couple of solutions to the late night mess.

[trusty]

Conan has lost HALF of his original audience. That's a huge failure.

You had A LOT of viewers who really liked the edgyness of a Letterman/Conan combination, even though it required the pressing of a button on a remote.

So, you take that away from viewers - and even put them OPPOSITE each other - unhappy viewer / bad move.


You can't unfry an egg.

 

[firepoint525]

This is starting to remind me of "New Coke." ;D

 

[bpatrick]

I did see in my local paper this morning that "Law & Order" and
"Law & Order: SVU" are going back to 10 PM, and a new comedy-
panel show, "The Marriage Ref" (produced by Jerry Seinfeld), looks
to get a 10 PM slot. Also scheduled for 10 PM: "Parenthood" and
"Dateline." The Jay/Conan situation remains unresolved.

 

[DToTheJ]

I did see... that "Law & Order" and "Law & Order: SVU" are going back to 10 PM, and a new comedy-panel show, "The Marriage Ref" (produced by Jerry Seinfeld), looks to get a 10 PM slot. Also scheduled for 10 PM: "Parenthood" and "Dateline..."

All that from the link posted at the following thread:
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=160640.0

 

[bpatrick]

OK! Y'all might want to go to that site; there's
a lot on info on the new shows as well as NBC's
complete new primetime schedule. But, frankly,
there are now so many threads about Jay and
Conan that I can't help but miss something.

 

[bpatrick]

Looks like the issue has been resolved: Jay goes
back to 11:35 and Conan leaves NBC. One question
yet to be resolved is how much Conan will get when
NBC buys out his contract. The whole situation has
made Jeff Zucker really look bad; he championed Leno
at 10, and now he has to spent millions on the replacement
shows, not to mention the fact that practically every
late-night show has found humor in this whole situation.

Jay, of course, is going to have to rebuild his audience.
In my local paper this morning, it also said that the reputations
of both Jay and Conan have been diminished. Maybe, but I
remember when Merv Griffin went from syndication to CBS,
flopped against Johnny Carson, then went back into syndication
with what turned out to be his most successful show. I can't
say his reputation was diminished. Then again, Merv wasn't
the subject of Carson's or Dick Cavett's monologues, AFAIK.
Jay is also working with a hugely-diminished audience for NBC
primetime.

I can't help but wonder if "The Tonight Show" is another product
of the '50s that's about to go the way of "Guiding Light" and "As
The World Turns."

 

[ROBGv1]

NBC should have put Jimmy Fallon on at 10 and left Jay and Conan alone.

 

[imhomerjay]

and now he has to spent millions on the replacement
shows

No more than had they not run Leno--if anything, they saved some money over the past few months.

 

[Braves2005]

and now he has to spent millions on the replacement
shows

No more than had they not run Leno--if anything, they saved some money over the past few months.

NBC has already lost 200 million dollars thanks to them showing The Winter Olympics and no telling how much else thanks to the Leno/Conan disaster. Looks like a bankrupt network could be on its way to everyone and a possible name change to the Comcast Network or CCN.

 

[imhomerjay]

Meanwhile back in the real world, there's not a shred of evidence that a "name change" is even the most remote of possibilities.

 

[formeraa]

This is starting to remind me of "New Coke." ;D

Touche! It is exactly like the "New Coke" fiasco. It has very little to do with putting Jay at 10am. It has a whole lot to do with who signed the iron-clad contract with Conan 5 years ago. The guy has extremely weird hair (it's so distracting to me that I can't watch) and isn't very funny even if I look away from the tv during his monologue.

 

[LKellerIII]

This is starting to remind me of "New Coke." ;D

Touche! It is exactly like the "New Coke" fiasco. It has very little to do with putting Jay at 10am. It has a whole lot to do with who signed the iron-clad contract with Conan 5 years ago. The guy has extremely weird hair (it's so distracting to me that I can't watch) and isn't very funny even if I look away from the tv during his monologue.

OK, I'm not one of those politically correct monitors talking about "lookism," but really - that's kind of shallow, don't you think? Yeah - Conan has weird hair, Jay Leno has a huge chin and weird hair with a skunk stripe. And Letterman ain't exactly George Clooney. The last regular looking late-night talk host was probably Johnny Carson. Kimmel's fairly regular looking if you like the pudgy doughy look.

A friend told me once that she couldn't watch Steven Colbert because of his droopy right ear. I hadn't even noticed it until then, but I still have no trouble watching his show.

 

[vchimpanzee]

and now he has to spent millions on the replacement
shows

No more than had they not run Leno--if anything, they saved some money over the past few months.

NBC has already lost 200 million dollars thanks to them showing The Winter Olympics and no telling how much else thanks to the Leno/Conan disaster. Looks like a bankrupt network could be on its way to everyone and a possible name change to the Comcast Network or CCN.

"30 Rock" really needs to take advantage of this.

They already have Alec Baldwin winning multiple Emmys as the moron running NBC programming. The real world is now starting to look just as bad.