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A music video making fun of the crappy playlists on Boston radio.
he basically nails it!!!!
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spilot113
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wealllikeradio said:
However, he seems to think that the purpose of radio stations is to promote bands.....
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spilot113
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Tom Wells said:
The function of music radio is to play people favorite songs....
MassMusicMan
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HAHAHAHA
Roadsteamer lives with a doorman at the White Horse, where I work. I'm always hearing stories about him.
Roadsteamer lives with a doorman at the White Horse, where I work. I'm always hearing stories about him.
Then the function of radio, stinks.spilot113 said:
Actually the function of commercial radio is to make money by selling commercials. What we put between the commercials we hope will entice our target audience to grow and remain long enough to be counted. This gives our sales people the information they need to help sell our station. Now the more efficiently we can accomplish this programming between commercials will help keep our costs low and again help us produce more money. That's really the whole commercial radio plan in a nutshell. Everything else is extra.
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AllForADeuce
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The function of music radio is to play people favorite songs....
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Favorite based on what? As a listener, I've complained to a handful of radio people about the SEVERELY limited rotation of songs on older bands and I am always told that the "focus groups" and "surveys" that go out say these are the songs they want. So all the surveys and groups say that, yes, KISS has been around for over 30 years, but we ONLY want to hear these two songs. So these are the only two songs we're going to play for the next ten years. Bullcrap.
I miss MDs like Osterland that would stick to the band rotation but always tossed in a smattering of different songs. I didn't mine hearing Aerosmith 20 times a day (literally) and in between each playing of the just-released single was a different Aerosmith song. So in 20 listens, I would hear the new song ten times and at least 5 different Aerosmith songs. This is one of the things that drove me away from WAAF and radio in general. When a band like AC/DC has been putting out music since 1974 and is still in rotation, it's nice not to hear "You Shook Me All Night Long" every damn time.
God forbid you play a lesser known, or older, single and let the "kids" to know that Pink Floyd put out more than "Brick in the Wall".
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Favorite based on what? As a listener, I've complained to a handful of radio people about the SEVERELY limited rotation of songs on older bands and I am always told that the "focus groups" and "surveys" that go out say these are the songs they want. So all the surveys and groups say that, yes, KISS has been around for over 30 years, but we ONLY want to hear these two songs. So these are the only two songs we're going to play for the next ten years. Bullcrap.
I miss MDs like Osterland that would stick to the band rotation but always tossed in a smattering of different songs. I didn't mine hearing Aerosmith 20 times a day (literally) and in between each playing of the just-released single was a different Aerosmith song. So in 20 listens, I would hear the new song ten times and at least 5 different Aerosmith songs. This is one of the things that drove me away from WAAF and radio in general. When a band like AC/DC has been putting out music since 1974 and is still in rotation, it's nice not to hear "You Shook Me All Night Long" every damn time.
God forbid you play a lesser known, or older, single and let the "kids" to know that Pink Floyd put out more than "Brick in the Wall".
AllForADeuce said:
Favorite based on what?
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Ummmm....research?
AllForADeuce said:
Who said it earlier....? The job of a station is to play peoples favorite songs...not lesser-known songs.
While you're enhancing your playlist with "lesser known songs" your competitor is playing their favorites. Doesn't sound like a great strategy....
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AllForADeuce
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AllForADeuce said:
Who said it earlier....? The job of a station is to play peoples favorite songs...not lesser-known songs.
While you're enhancing your playlist with "lesser known songs" your competitor is playing their favorites. Doesn't sound like a great strategy....
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I should have edited that to read "lesser knon song = hit song that is the #4 hit song of a band you only play 2 or 3 songs from". As per my reference to Osterlind earlier, he played a variation of Aerosmith songs in between the new single. Playing the same two songs from the same band for 10 years just plain sux. One major reason I stopped listening to music radio. I, like MANY MANY fans, like more than two Hendrix, Zeppelin, Doors, KISS songs. But hearing the same crap every day every rotation for years had not only stopped me listening to radio, but I can't tell you the last time I've listened to Hendrix. Totally turned me away from the artist.
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AllForADeuce
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Keith321 said:
Ummmm....research?
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Does this "research" ever ask "Would you like to hear more than the same two songs from your favorite artists every day every three hours for years on years?". I don't think so. HD Radio offers "more songs from your favorite artists"...why can't regular radio offer more songs from my favorite artists? So now MTV "Music Television" wants you to subscribe to MTV2 3 4 5 6 7 to watch videos? Crap. Total crap. Why can't my radio station play the top FOUR Doors songs instead of the top two? Thank god for Sat. Radio because radio drove me and others away. Sat. Radio offers me...oh my god...variation of my fave bands!! What a concept! You mean when I hear KISS every three hours I might NOT hear "Rock n Roll All Night"? I might hear another great awesome song like "Strutter" or "Deuce" or "Beth"?
Wow, that song brings memories...makes me realize I didn't have it on my iPod...maybe I should go out and buy that...what a concept....
MassMusicMan
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Funny that you should mention variety on satellite radio. I was listening to Classic Rewind on Sirius recently, and they've been running sweepers saying "(band name) had more than 3 or 4 songs. You know that. And here's the proof."
They did this for U2, and what song do I hear next? "One." Sick variety. If you're going to run that sweeper, follow it with "Angel of Harlem."
They did this for U2, and what song do I hear next? "One." Sick variety. If you're going to run that sweeper, follow it with "Angel of Harlem."
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The Beave
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I watched the video... I need him to adapt that to the Fargo, ND market.. It easily describes #220.
Send it to EVERY station in the market.
Send it to EVERY station in the market.
AllForADeuce said:
If asked, most listeners would say yes, but they don't really mean it. Whenever stations deviate from a very short list of favorites and only an artists two or three greatest hits, their ratings go down... regardless of listeners saying that they want "more variety".
Why do you think stations position themselves as "more variety", and then offer the same old same old? They know that the masses want to believe that they want "more variety" (no one wants to think of themselves as so "unhip" as not to claim they want "more variety"), but then in reality, they'll turn the station if they're not hearing only their most familiar favorites over and over on end.
AllForADeuce said:
HD-2 channels are not (yet, if ever) programming to the mainstream masses of listeners. There simply aren't enough people with receivers out there. Because of that, they know that they can't get either ratings or advertising revenue from their HD-2 signals, so stations figure they might as well offer automated specialty music channels on them since they're essentially loss leaders at this point.
AllForADeuce said:
Satellite radio is a national, not local, programming model. It's national success is by programming to niche listeners who are willing to pay for specialty programming, and who are actually a very small percentage of the total radio listeners within each major market when compared to terrestrial radio.
There will always be people on these boards who keep saying variations of "Well, here's what I like, so it must also be what everyone else out there likes! What's the matter with these Program Directors not programming to me anyway... don't they know that I must represent the entire listening audience in the market??"
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wealllikeradio
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It's actually posted on the Noiseboard which is the musician messageboard for Boston that is made fun of in the video. Check out that dialog-
http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=188653
http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=188653
Retro said:
I didn't catch any reference to Karen Blake.....???
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bandman
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I don't think they were referencing Karen Blake but if they were it actually seemed like a compliment.
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