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So are the Ad Council spots PSA's or something different? I had always thought they were PSA's, but I think it's been mentioned elsewhere here that Ad Council spots are actually paid for by the government somehow.
Ad Council spots are PSAs. They produce and place them, and broadcasters donate funds which are used for production and distribution costs. The Ad Council is non-profit, so income and expenses are roughly equal.
 
So are the Ad Council spots PSA's or something different? I had always thought they were PSA's, but I think it's been mentioned elsewhere here that Ad Council spots are actually paid for by the government somehow.
Ad Council spots are Public Service Announcements. They usually take on major issues and do relatively long-lasting, widespread, national campaigns, Some of their more famous campaigns were forest fire prevention (Smokey Bear), crime prevention (McGruff the Crime Dog / Take a bit out of crime), seatbelt safety (Vince and Larry, the "You could learn a lot from a dummy" crash dummies), Covid 19 awareness and vaccination, etc. If you're interested in learning a bit more, they have a FAQ section on their website that's helpful, and explains how they decide which campaigns to undertake, where they get funding, etc.
 
So are the Ad Council spots PSA's or something different? I had always thought they were PSA's, but I think it's been mentioned elsewhere here that Ad Council spots are actually paid for by the government somehow.
Nope. The Ad Council is a bunch of volunteers from the agency business who help put together professionally produced PSAs that stations are provided with; running them is optional but many stations run lots of them.

Those PSA's ran a lot during the era of satellite distributed radio formats that had fixed stopset length. If you were not sold out, you ran those PSAs. Now, networks are delivered in workparts and your stopsets adjust to what you have sold, so a lot less Ad Council PSA run. But in TV, where shows have fixed commercial time, we se a lot of those Ad Council spots.
 
Those PSA's ran a lot during the era of satellite distributed radio formats that had fixed stopset length. If you were not sold out, you ran those PSAs. Now, networks are delivered in workparts and your stopsets adjust to what you have sold, so a lot less Ad Council PSA run. But in TV, where shows have fixed commercial time, we se a lot of those Ad Council spots.
When visiting friends or relatives that live in smaller markets, I still hear PSAs, especially at nights and on weekends, on stations that carry national talkers. As you state, their breaks are fixed and if the station isn't selling well or they're not giving away spots during off-times as a "bonus" to their advertisers, then station promos or PSAs it is...
 
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Some of the best ones were the ones played during breaks on Loveline, you can hear some of them in this clip. The best one is the 30 year old actors pretending to be teenagers avoiding a party where there’s going to be drinking:
 
Not sure what this OP is doing here, as his last topic was something like "List of Seattle air talent names who smoke crack" ( which was shut down by Frank) ; and before that, it was "What do air traffic reporters in small planes do if they have to go to the bathroom"? :unsure:
Is he just stirring the pot in order to provoke a smackdown?
Looks as if he is an spamming outsider with a history of posting messages that have nothing to do with broadcasting.
 
Not sure what this OP is doing here, as his last topic was something like "List of Seattle air talent names who smoke crack" ( which was shut down by Frank) ; and before that, it was "What do air traffic reporters in small planes do if they have to go to the bathroom"? :unsure:
Is he just stirring the pot in order to provoke a smackdown?
Looks as if he is an spamming outsider with a history of posting messages that have nothing to do with broadcasting.
A lot of his posts are about local Seattle radio. The "reaction" posts are topics we can ignore or put into context. In this case,we got a lot of examples going back to Bill Balance and Dr Laura and others and some of the responses are interesting and would not have been posted were it not for the original post.
 
I'm not sure if Mel Brooks' humor appeals to you, but the number in the video below was in mind when I wrote the comment above about the Inquisition. This is, of course, from Brook's movie "History of the World Part 1". Getting serious for a moment, there are many examples of certain religions or races or groups being widely blamed for the actions of a few, even recently. The attempted "Muslim ban" comes to mind if we're interested in more recent examples. Same with companies that provide and distribute adult content. There certainly are bad actors out there with ties to ugly and heinous underground activities. That doesn't mean all, or even most, are. Anyway, here's Mel:
It's not just the actions of a few bad apples who are tainting a group of nice, good, upstanding, friendly people, who just want everyone to be healthy sex-positive, like the "Muslim ban hurt everyone." The porn industry is dominated by underworld mobsters and the cartels.

I taught 12 grade senior English for many years. I had two students who were coerced into the porn industry in Los Angeles.( San Fernando Valley, part of L.A. city limits). They almost didn't escape. And those are only two who were brave enough to come forward and tell their harrowing story. Thats was in the 90's, when the industry was controlled by mobsters.

It's now controlled by the cartels - the Sinaloa Cartel, Jalisco Cartel, the cartel in Chiapas, and the Treces MS-13 in El Salvador. They kidnap northbound migrant young women and hand them over to the coyotes, who then enslave them to pay off their passage across the border. The videos of the rapes (which is exactly what they are) are monetized to big aggregators like PornHub and X Video, with little or no content moderation. It's a big enough issue that major media report on it -- NBC linked below.

 
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It's not just the actions of a few bad apples who are tainting a group of nice, good, upstanding, friendly people, who just want everyone to be healthy sex-positive, like the "Muslim ban hurt everyone." The porn industry is dominated by underworld mobsters and the cartels.

I taught 12 grade senior English for many years. I had two students who were coerced into the porn industry in Los Angeles. They almost didn't escape. And those are only two who were brave enough to come forward and tell their harrowing story. Thats was in the 90's, when the industry was controlled by mobsters.

It's now controlled by the cartels - the Sinaloa Cartel, Jalisco Cartel, the cartel in Chiapas, and the Treces in El Salvador. They kidnap northbound migrant young women and hand them over to the coyotes, who then enslave them to pay off their passage across the border. The videos of the rapes (which is exactly what they are) are monetized to big aggregators like PornHub and X Video, with little or no content moderation. It's a big enough issue that major media report on it -- NBC linked below.

Ironically, the NBC article you posted does not even mention porn.

I have heard similar claims to the ones you have made on conservative and religious talk radio, though. They also talk about prostitution being used by the cartels as well. They usually add in bits about potential terrorists walking across the border freely. That kind of thing.

As far as the porn industry, yeah, there are bad apples, obviously. There are in nearly any business, including that big, LA-based industry we call Hollywood. You know, the famous casting couch scenario, which is, or was not exactly clean, as recent prosecutions seem to indicate.
 
I have heard similar claims to the ones you have made on conservative and religious talk radio, though. They also talk about prostitution being used by the cartels as well. They usually add in bits about potential terrorists walking across the border freely. That kind of thing.

I'm a liberal Democrat on the "left coast" of California. I never, ever, listen to conservative talk radio or religious radio. My concern is NOT with "sin" in a religious sense, but in human rights for women. Hillary Clinton, for whom I voted in 2016, said, "women's rights are human rights." That statement resonated with me. That is what I am talking about here.

The NBC article referenced above makes several mentions of women trafficked into commercial sex operations. In other words, they perform commercial sex acts, for which money is received. That's what commercial porn and prostitution are. That's what "commercial sex" means. NBC is known as "mainstream media" and cannot be considered some kind of right-wing religious network.

Human rights are a non-partisan issue. It doesn't matter to the criminal underworld who belongs to the Democrats and who belongs to the Republicans Makes no difference to them. What U.S. political party would be in favor of sex trafficking? That makes no sense.

If you need an article from a "liberal" source in order to consider this a valid topic, then here is one from the University of Texas in the Rio Grande Valley. The university's Dept. of Public Affairs and Security Studies are reporting on the Gulf Cartel, which is active in that border region. To briely quote, " Migrant women are often victims of sexual servitude in activities including pornography and prostitution in Reynosa’s red light district known as 'Boys’ Town.' The cartel also uses migrant women as forced domestic servants in their safe houses. Children and unaccompanied minors are particularly vulnerable, as well as the LGBT community, for human trafficking."

When those videos are uploaded to PornHub or XVideo, there is no way to verify the age of the female, or whether the video was filmed with her consent. If the female manages to escape the captor, there's no way to get ownership of the video or to have it removed. The victim has no control over that content.

 
Please, keep this to anything slightly related to radio or TV.
Okay. Point well taken. In my opinion, there should not be a radio station dedicated 24/7 to chat about porn. That is not legal right now, and I don't think it should be legal in the future. I realize that I don't have to listen to it. But still, I don't want to have a radio station set up in which listeners call in to discuss porn films, the rape of minor teens, and the hypersexualization, degradation, dehumanization, and debasing of women. So, I hope that the FCC would not approve a license for the set-up of a radio station like that.
 
.........And also, because there are about 100 active men posters here, and only about 3 active women posters here. And, some of the men are very highly influential with the FCC and may decide that starting a porn radio station where porn videos and the attributes of women in porn are discussed is something they can push the FCC to legalize. (that's different from the sex therapist, or Bill Ballance/Dr. Laura, or Dr. Ruth, etc.)

And when that is legalized, it means a renewed call for more content to be uploaded so that the callers to the porn chat can have more rape videos of minor teens to discuss. And that means that PornHub and XVideo will be calling for more content of the degradation of women and teen minors.

In the U.S. the average age of exposure of children to pornography is about age 11. This means that girls from that age receive the message that the behavior they see of women in the videos -- highly sexualized into voracious creatures desperate to meet men's sexual demands, silently, submissively willing to endure physical pain and cruel brutalization in order to please men, compliant doormats in terms of having any dignity or self-worth -- is imposed on young girls. I don't know who is influential with the FCC here -- it may even be the OP --- but I would hope that the men here who are in the great majority, would not vote to set up a radio station like that.
 
Amen to everything Daryl said.

And again, I'll just raise my objection that we're debating a format that a known ****-stirrer with zero credibility started.

There are people on this board who get their online tails kicked for suggesting formats we think are goofy or ill-advised and it's two pages of mockery (for which I'm increasingly sorry) and we're done.

Ain't NOBODY in the business talking about doing this. Jerry Clifton did it as a stunt for two weeks in Fresno in 2006. Period.
 
Ironically, the NBC article you posted does not even mention porn.

I have heard similar claims to the ones you have made on conservative and religious talk radio, though. They also talk about prostitution being used by the cartels as well. They usually add in bits about potential terrorists walking across the border freely. That kind of thing.

As far as the porn industry, yeah, there are bad apples, obviously. There are in nearly any business, including that big, LA-based industry we call Hollywood. You know, the famous casting couch scenario, which is, or was not exactly clean, as recent prosecutions seem to indicate.
I heard on the radio just yesterday, that an aide to former Maryland Governor Hogan, got busted for soliciting a thirteen-year-old girl. I'm sure when law enforcement digs further, they'll discover a lot more child porn in his possession. Porn is a real problem that some people, especially Boomer males, seem to want to sweep under the rug as being 'just business'.
Was having lunch with my wife the other day at a local deli. I think they were playing the SXM 60's channel when Gary Puckett and the Union Gap song 'Young Girl' came on. The lyrics made me cringe because I'd imagine growing up with that sort of popular attitude toward girls was the norm back then.
 
I think they were playing the SXM 60's channel when Gary Puckett and the Union Gap song 'Young Girl' came on. The lyrics made me cringe because I'd imagine growing up with that sort of popular attitude toward girls was the norm back then.

I never cared for the song, but in fairness, the story in the lyrics is she led him to believe she was legal, he's found out (seemingly before acting on that) otherwise and is telling her to go home to her mother.

Now, Kiss' "Christine Sixteen", Rod Stewart's "Hot Legs" and a kajillion others....

Yeah, it was a problem.

Being the father (and now grandfather) of girls is a mega-dose of clarity about a lot of things, including songs I used to play on the radio.
 
But that’s one company. That doesn’t mean the entire industry is guilty just like the Spanish inquisition and similar means all Catholics or Christians should be blamed.

I'll confess, I did not have "porn, the Spanish Inquisition and Christians" on my bingo card.

Okay, Mikey, here goes:






And back to France, two other apparently popular producers are under investigation:


And that's France. Where they have a rather laissez-faire attitude toward nudity, sex and the depiction of same in art and media.

That's the tip of the iceberg. It is a business that makes physical abuse, extortion and human trafficking a lot easier to accomplish and in the case of the extortion and human trafficking, potentially very lucrative for those willing to go there.

If you're going to tell me that most---or even one---porn production company is the Apple Computers of porn (humane treatment, safe working conditions, equitable pay, a 401(k) and benefits), I'll have to take your word for it.

But I doubt it very seriously. If you took desperation to pay the rent or feed the kids and low self-esteem out of the equation, I think you'd have a lot less material being created.
 
I never cared for the song, but in fairness, the story in the lyrics is she led him to believe she was legal, he's found out (seemingly before acting on that) otherwise and is telling her to go home to her mother.
But she was persistent, and Puckett later got his way in "This Girl is a Woman Now."
 
But she was persistent, and Puckett later got his way in "This Girl is a Woman Now."
Aw, crap---you're right.

Maybe.

He doesn't say he did it. Nancy Wilson (the jazz singer, not the one from Heart) actually covered the song, and sang it with the same lyrics. That girl was 33 at the time.

I really never liked any of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap's songs, and thankfully, they were all consigned to the Gold file long before I got on the air in 1971.

They ("Young Girl" and "This Girl is a Woman Now") were written by different songwriters---neither of them Puckett nor members of the Union Gap.
 
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