Adult Content on Radio and TV (from Seattle Board)

[Mikey Radio]

Okay. Point well taken. In my opinion, there should not be a radio station dedicated 24/7 to chat about porn. That is not legal right now, and I don't think it should be legal in the future.

But to play devil's advocate - and to keep this about radio and broadcasting, the same could be said for a lot of divisive topics that have caused a strong, even emotional response on both sides of a particular issue, which were not legal and yet were openly discussed on radio and TV. Gay marriage was not legal. Many, especially on the Christian right, likened (and some still do) homosexuality with bestiality, child rape and other heinous (definitely illegal) things. Right-wing politicians like Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum lost their minds and it became a very hot button topic during the reelection of GW Bush. Organizations "protecting" "traditional family values" guaranteed that if same-sex marriage was legally permitted, American families would be destroyed and child molestation would become the norm. Of course, we know that was an over exxageration, and we also know what's happened since - same sex marriage is now legal nationwide and our country (and families) survived, but the point is that same sex marriage was not legal back then, yet it was open fodder for discussion on the radio and TV. Another example would be the legalization of marijuana. Many consider it a gateway drug, and as everyone knows, drug use and abuse has quite literally destroyed lives and families, scores of people are dead due to drug use, and gangs and cartels are heavily involved in the drug trade. People pointed out how, once it became legal in Colorado, the number of people going to that state who didn't know their tolerance or who reacted badly were showing up at emergency rooms, frightened because they didn't know what was going on. Marijuana use was not legal but discussion of that topic was not banned from radio or TV broadcast.

I don't want to have a radio station set up in which listeners call in to discuss porn films, the rape of minor teens, and the hypersexualization, degradation, dehumanization, and debasing of women. So, I hope that the FCC would not approve a license for the set-up of a radio station like that.

The FCC does not approve licenses based on the format or content a particular station plans to air, nor doe the FCC approve format changes and the like. However, if someone violates a standard or the talk becomes vulgar or any of the heinous things you describe are promoted or encouraged, that's when the appropriate agencies would step in.

 

[CTListener]

Equally cringeworthy. Underage is underage. Predatory behavior is predatory behavior.

In real life, women get arrested for it, too---though there is a considerable sentencing disparity in a lot of those cases.

Lainey Wilson's current hit "Watermelon Moonshine" echoes Deana Carter's '90s hit "Strawberry Wine," but both boy and girl may be underage in those songs. The female singers are reminiscing about their "first time" and it's not clear how old the boy is.

 

[kevtronics]

Lainey Wilson's current hit "Watermelon Moonshine" echoes Deana Carter's '90s hit "Strawberry Wine," but both boy and girl may be underage in those songs. The female singers are reminiscing about their "first time" and it's not clear how old the boy is.

Or Tiffany, when she flipped the script with "I Saw Him Standing There". But she was actually 17 when she recorded it, unlike Paul and John who were in their early 20s when they wrote it.

 

[Kelly A]

Or Tiffany, when she flipped the script with "I Saw Him Standing There". But she was actually 17 when she recorded it, unlike Paul and John who were in their early 20s when they wrote it.

Unrelated rabbit hole. Some guy well into their 20's lusting after a girl half their age isn't the same thing as a teen pop artist performing a song written by someone in their early 20's. Similar age difference, but completely different motivations and repercussions.

 

[CTListener]

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[Mark Roberts]

A lot of his posts are about local Seattle radio. The "reaction" posts are topics we can ignore or put into context. In this case,we got a lot of examples going back to Bill Balance and Dr Laura and others and some of the responses are interesting and would not have been posted were it not for the original post.

this thread's origins and its consequent developments reminded me of this Washington Post article from yesterday, focusing a bit on Vivek Ramaswamy as an archetype, the high-school Model U.N. delegate - or 'power del' - seeking to impress others by making provocative assertions -

Who knows why 14- and 15-year-olds with no foreign policy experience devote eight-plus years to debating these issues. The romantic explanation: Escapism and wish-casting for a better world. The cynical explanation is preprofessional résumé-padding and ego-feeding. Being subjectively crowned “best delegate” can be addictive.

In the taxonomy of this subculture, two broad archetypes emerge: One kind is the future alphabet bureaucrats and Capitol Hill flacks and Langley-cloistered analysts, who see in Model U.N. an outlet for their Westphalian passions.

The other kind are known in these circles, somewhat derogatorily, as “power dels.” The label, former Model UNers agree, can ruin reputations. Power dels tend to filibuster, scramble the diplomatic board and bulldoze over group consensus.

Link to article (gift link): https://wapo.st/3Z495ee

Not quite sure what a "Westphalian passion" is.

 

[michael hagerty]

Not quite sure what a "Westphalian passion" is.

If this excites you...

 

[Daryl Lynn L.A.]

They are actually a 'she', and as Mike mentioned; is focused on nothing more than trying to stir sh*t.

Let's ask the OP directly. Cobra, what up?? You female?

Involved in sex trade, looking for radio station to advertise your sex videos?

This is all very triggering and toxic. What's going on?

 

[Daryl Lynn L.A.]

Of course, there's a double standard when the minor is male. Then the song becomes a nostalgic "coming of age" piece, like the movie "Summer of '42." (Was Jennifer O'Neill the "older woman" of my dreams when I was 15? Guilty!) Examples: "Summer (The First Time)" -- Bobby Goldsboro, and "That Summer" -- Garth Brooks.

I never liked that Garth Brooks song about the lonely widow woman who hired the much younger man to work on an isolated farm in the middle of nowhere, then she had her way with him. Too predatory. Women can be predators also. Not acceptable.

 

[CTListener]

I never liked that Garth Brooks song about the lonely widow woman who hired the much younger man to work on an isolated farm in the middle of nowhere, then she had her way with him. Too predatory. Women can be predators also. Not acceptable.

I once saw a review of the Garth album that song was on. The critic called "That Summer" "'Summer of '42' with wheat." Just about sums it up!

 

[Cobra14]

Let's ask the OP directly. Cobra, what up?? You female?

Involved in sex trade, looking for radio station to advertise your sex videos?

This is all very triggering and toxic. What's going on?

This is the Internet pal. I could be a cute blonde twig in sunglasses laying next to a swimming pool or a 390 pound burley truck driver in a sleeper east of Barstow. You decide.

 

[Cobra14]

They are actually a 'she', and as Mike mentioned; is focused on nothing more than trying to stir sh*t.

😘

 

[davideduardo]

Okay. Point well taken. In my opinion, there should not be a radio station dedicated 24/7 to chat about porn. That is not legal right now, and I don't think it should be legal in the future. I realize that I don't have to listen to it. But still, I don't want to have a radio station set up in which listeners call in to discuss porn films, the rape of minor teens, and the hypersexualization, degradation, dehumanization, and debasing of women. So, I hope that the FCC would not approve a license for the set-up of a radio station like that.

Remember, the FCC does not approve formats or even have to approve of them. Stations can do pretty much whatever they like. It's legal to talk about porn, but there are limitations on the language and the subject's descriptive talk.

One could discuss porn on the radio, as long as it did not used "dirty words" or become obscene in descriptive narratives. The real issue here is that the market will decide on whether the format is popular and advertisers will decide if they want to be involved.

Many advertisers stay away from partisan political talk radio. Some stay away from formats like Alt Rock, perhaps due to the belief that those listeners are not potential customers.

And I can't think of any advertisers other than penis enhancement scams and the like that would want to be associated with "that dirty station". The franchisee of the Hallmark store is not going to buy a schedule there.

 

[CTListener]

Remember, the FCC does not approve formats or even have to approve of them. Stations can do pretty much whatever they like. It's legal to talk about porn, but there are limitations on the language and the subject's descriptive talk.

One could discuss porn on the radio, as long as it did not used "dirty words" or become obscene in descriptive narratives. The real issue here is that the market will decide on whether the format is popular and advertisers will decide if they want to be involved.

Many advertisers stay away from partisan political talk radio. Some stay away from formats like Alt Rock, perhaps due to the belief that those listeners are not potential customers.

And I can't think of any advertisers other than penis enhancement scams and the like that would want to be associated with "that dirty station". The franchisee of the Hallmark store is not going to buy a schedule there.

Playboy magazine was a major television advertiser decades ago. But I'm not sure the printed magazine even exists today. Its days were numbered as soon as the first porn site appeared on the internet, which is a shame because -- although "I only buy it for the articles" became a line delivered with a sly wink -- the magazine really did publish some excellent and thought-provoking articles.

 

[Cobra14]

Just wanted to say thanks to the moderators for allowing open discussion to continue and the contributors too. Those who are offended or trying to guilt trip the mods into shutting it down or locking it are trying to decide what content free and open minded individuals are able to read and comment on. Echoing what David said, you’re not obligated to read any of this. As for the business of porn, threads like this also bring awareness to the problems that are present. Take what you will from it. Learning something from this thread, as some of you are too, just as some of us did while trying to watch scrambled porn back in the day. Might’ve been a boob, might’ve been a shirt button, decisions.

 

[CTListener]

Just wanted to say thanks to the moderators for allowing open discussion to continue and the contributors too. Those who are offended or trying to guilt trip the mods into shutting it down or locking it are trying to decide what content free and open minded individuals are able to read and comment on. Echoing what David said, you’re not obligated to read any of this. As for the business of porn, threads like this also bring awareness to the problems that are present. Take what you will from it. Learning something from this thread, as some of you are too, just as some of us did while trying to watch scrambled porn back in the day. Might’ve been a boob, might’ve been a shirt button, decisions.

I remember the scrambled porn channel on the Warner Amex system in suburban Boston in the early '80s. It was on Channel 31, which was popularly known as Dirty-One.

 

[michael hagerty]

Playboy magazine was a major television advertiser decades ago. But I'm not sure the printed magazine even exists today. Its days were numbered as soon as the first porn site appeared on the internet, which is a shame because -- although "I only buy it for the articles" became a line delivered with a sly wink -- the magazine really did publish some excellent and thought-provoking articles.

I do not remember ever seeing an ad for Playboy magazine. They had their own TV show, twice—-two years beginning in 1959 and two years beginning in 1969, but even on that, the magazine was only mentioned in passing.

 

[boombox4]

Unrelated rabbit hole. Some guy well into their 20's lusting after a girl half their age isn't the same thing as a teen pop artist performing a song written by someone in their early 20's. Similar age difference, but completely different motivations and repercussions.

If they carry it out, though, it's potential jail time.

 

[boombox4]

I heard on the radio just yesterday, that an aide to former Maryland Governor Hogan, got busted for soliciting a thirteen-year-old girl. I'm sure when law enforcement digs further, they'll discover a lot more child porn in his possession. Porn is a real problem that some people, especially Boomer males, seem to want to sweep under the rug as being 'just business'.

Child porn is a crime. Porn itself is not. The industry is regulated, with laws that apply to it directly. 18 USC 2257 is one of them. There are also laws in every state that criminalize the sexual abuse of minors. There is a difference between criminal activity and legal activity.

I know that there are a lot of people who think the existence of adult, legal porn is a problem. Conservative talk radio and the religious talk shows talk about it all the time.

 

[CTListener]

I do not remember ever seeing an ad for Playboy magazine. They had their own TV show, twice—-two years beginning in 1959 and two years beginning in 1969, but even on that, the magazine was only mentioned in passing.

Playboy ads were staples of ESPN advertising in the early years. There was one featuring Alex Haley and Elliott Gould, with a bed of slinky jazz playing, as the narrator talked about the sophisticated journalism, criticism and "the world's most beautiful women" subscribers would find in the magazine's pages every month. They were nearly as common as Sports Illustrated ads, with their offers of cheap watches or windbreakers as enticement to subscribe.

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