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Air America fan hopes to launch liberal talk station in Central Wisconsin

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Posted August 11, 2006

Air America fan hopes to launch liberal talk station By Kelli Knudsen

For the Wausau Daily Herald

STEVENS POINT -- Local radio listeners who long to hear to Air America could be in luck if the community can collaborate to raise and invest enough money to purchase a radio station to host the liberal and progressive talk network.

A new Web site has been established by Joe Roppe, who has been working on finding ways to bring Air America to central Wisconsin, in conjunction with Nova M Radio, a company that has been created to purchase, own and operate radio stations in small- and medium-sized markets. ...

[Click link above for the complete article.]


http://www.progressivetalkstevenspoint.com/

Progressive radio is coming to the Wausau, Stevens Point, Wisconsin Radio Market. The founders of the Air America Radio Network, Shelly and Anita Drobny and a group of local community activists will come together to purchase radio stations here and all across Wisconsin.

Just click the banner link above and follow it to our pixel site. It doesn't matter the level of investment you choose. You can purchase different tiers of pixel space on our virtual billboard. Proceeds from the sales of these pixels will help defray the start-up costs of operating a local radio station airing Air America progressive liberal talk programming. With your help, we will bring progressive talk to Central Wisconsin.

Click here for sound clips of Shelly Drobny talking with Mike Papantonio on Air America Radio's "Ring of Fire"


http://ltradio.blogspot.com/

Thursday, August 17, 2006

Air America fan hopes to launch liberal talk station in Central Wisconsin

Local radio listeners who long to hear to Air America could be in luck if the community can collaborate to raise and invest enough money to purchase a radio station to host the liberal and progressive talk network.

A new Web site has been established by Joe Roppe, who has been working on finding ways to bring Air America to central Wisconsin, in conjunction with Nova M Radio, a company that has been created to purchase, own and operate radio stations in small- and medium-sized markets. ...

Here's the site:

http://www.progressivetalkstevenspoint.com/

[Click link above for the complete article.]
 
Re: Air America fan in Central Wisconsin

Keep dreaming!

These NovaM Radio folks are the same ones that announced they'd pick up
50 stations in the following 12 months. They RENTED one... North Little Rock.
They also said they'd pick up 100 stations over the next three years. So far, the only thing that has happened, is another liberal group has committed (hasn't given) to financing them up to $3 million dollars for their operations...not acquisitions!

They had at least two different brokers calling all over East Wisconsin, and had a couple of stations dropped in their laps, including allegedly a million dollar deal at Milwaukee-Racine, and even a cheap deal to purchase a station around the Sheboygan-Fondy area and they passed on them both.

They just lost their flagship station in NYC, and moving to a smaller signal at 1600 in NYC. They have no nighttime service over Chicago...not a watt. They could have worked out a deal for Clear Channel's 1690 on the southwest side of Chicago and had 10kw days and 1kw nights, but they passed on that, too!

They cut airstaff in NYC, and seem to be on life support...

And, want to hear the 'drab' programming, tune into 92.1 in Sun Prairie, where they are on most of the time, unless they cut out for Ed Schultz in the afternoon! Schultz is with another network...so even Air America can't program a full day of programming. The weekends are loaded with 'best of' shows, too. Pete and repeat...

Shelly and Anita Drobny are not going to come to the Wausau area, unless they get the station for free... and somebody else pays them to keep it going.

Finally, pull up Madison ratings. Everyone in Wisconsin says, Madison is so liberal, it's their own planet. Look at those Air America ratings.... they stink!
 
Re: Air America fan in Central Wisconsin

wtrw said:
Keep dreaming!

These NovaM Radio folks are the same ones that announced they'd pick up
50 stations in the following 12 months. They RENTED one... North Little Rock.
They also said they'd pick up 100 stations over the next three years. So far, the only thing that has happened, is another liberal group has committed (hasn't given) to financing them up to $3 million dollars for their operations...not acquisitions!

They had at least two different brokers calling all over East Wisconsin, and had a couple of stations dropped in their laps, including allegedly a million dollar deal at Milwaukee-Racine, and even a cheap deal to purchase a station around the Sheboygan-Fondy area and they passed on them both.

They just lost their flagship station in NYC, and moving to a smaller signal at 1600 in NYC. They have no nighttime service over Chicago...not a watt. They could have worked out a deal for Clear Channel's 1690 on the southwest side of Chicago and had 10kw days and 1kw nights, but they passed on that, too!

They cut airstaff in NYC, and seem to be on life support...

And, want to hear the 'drab' programming, tune into 92.1 in Sun Prairie, where they are on most of the time, unless they cut out for Ed Schultz in the afternoon! Schultz is with another network...so even Air America can't program a full day of programming. The weekends are loaded with 'best of' shows, too. Pete and repeat...

Shelly and Anita Drobny are not going to come to the Wausau area, unless they get the station for free... and somebody else pays them to keep it going.

Finally, pull up Madison ratings. Everyone in Wisconsin says, Madison is so liberal, it's their own planet. Look at those Air America ratings.... they stink!

Hmm... where to start.

Well, how about New York. Let's face it, outside of WABC, WOR, WCBS, WINS, etc., there aren't a whole lot of big FM stations available. I'd say AAR didn't do too bad for themselves, as they wound up with a station that has a relatively decent signal. I swear, the way you hear conservatives squawking, it sounds like they're going to some 500 watt daytimer in the 'burbs. However, a 25,000 watt day/5,000 watt night signal, even at 1600AM, is not bad for New York. And, from what I hear, they're not leasing time with WWRL either (not confirmed).

Meanwhile, in Chicago, Clear Channel, for some reason, wanted to keep WRLL going for awhile. They were rumored to flip to libtalk, but decided to stay the course and try to build their 'real oldies' into a brand. CC finally threw in the towel last week, but libtalk was already taken. The other AM stations in Chicago are either the big dogs (WGN, WBBM, WLS, etc.) or tiny brokered outlets/ATM machines that make money with ethnic programming). So that leaves a bunch of little rimshot stations and whatever Starboard hasn't bought for their own radio network. The programming was available, so Newsweb grabbed it. And seeing that WCPT is doing better in the ratings than it really should, perhaps they'll move it to FM (NINE-FM is falling hard). From what I've heard, they're taking a 'wait and see' approach (though, if I were Newsweb, I'd take 92.7 in Arlington Heights and 92.7 down south and simulcast them with WCPT, leaving NINE on 99.9 and 92.5, super-serving the suburbs).

WMCS in Milwaukee turned them down for a lease deal, but they already have a brokerage deal with WAUK for sports programming at night.

Another owner offered to sell to Nova M in Milwaukee. Asking price? Closer to $5M.

Ratings for WXXM in Madison are actually pretty good. 92.1 has been getting better ratings with its current format than it's previous ones. The weak signal hinders them quite a bit. I'm sorry that you consider them a failure because they're not the top station in the market, but I think some so-called 'radio experts' have pretty ridiculous expectations to define success. I thought it was a good move for Clear Channel. And Clear Channel picked them up as a network affiliate, adding Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz, as is the most common approach. Nova M is just trying to buy into a few markets where no owner has budged yet.
 
Re: Air America fan in Central Wisconsin

FightingIrish said:
wtrw said:
Keep dreaming!

These NovaM Radio folks are the same ones that announced they'd pick up
50 stations in the following 12 months. They RENTED one... North Little Rock.
They also said they'd pick up 100 stations over the next three years. So far, the only thing that has happened, is another liberal group has committed (hasn't given) to financing them up to $3 million dollars for their operations...not acquisitions!

They had at least two different brokers calling all over East Wisconsin, and had a couple of stations dropped in their laps, including allegedly a million dollar deal at Milwaukee-Racine, and even a cheap deal to purchase a station around the Sheboygan-Fondy area and they passed on them both.

They just lost their flagship station in NYC, and moving to a smaller signal at 1600 in NYC. They have no nighttime service over Chicago...not a watt. They could have worked out a deal for Clear Channel's 1690 on the southwest side of Chicago and had 10kw days and 1kw nights, but they passed on that, too!

They cut airstaff in NYC, and seem to be on life support...

And, want to hear the 'drab' programming, tune into 92.1 in Sun Prairie, where they are on most of the time, unless they cut out for Ed Schultz in the afternoon! Schultz is with another network...so even Air America can't program a full day of programming. The weekends are loaded with 'best of' shows, too. Pete and repeat...

Shelly and Anita Drobny are not going to come to the Wausau area, unless they get the station for free... and somebody else pays them to keep it going.

Finally, pull up Madison ratings. Everyone in Wisconsin says, Madison is so liberal, it's their own planet. Look at those Air America ratings.... they stink!

Hmm... where to start.

Well, how about New York. Let's face it, outside of WABC, WOR, WCBS, WINS, etc., there aren't a whole lot of big FM stations available. I'd say AAR didn't do too bad for themselves, as they wound up with a station that has a relatively decent signal. I swear, the way you hear conservatives squawking, it sounds like they're going to some 500 watt daytimer in the 'burbs. However, a 25,000 watt day/5,000 watt night signal, even at 1600AM, is not bad for New York. And, from what I hear, they're not leasing time with WWRL either (not confirmed).

Meanwhile, in Chicago, Clear Channel, for some reason, wanted to keep WRLL going for awhile. They were rumored to flip to libtalk, but decided to stay the course and try to build their 'real oldies' into a brand. CC finally threw in the towel last week, but libtalk was already taken. The other AM stations in Chicago are either the big dogs (WGN, WBBM, WLS, etc.) or tiny brokered outlets/ATM machines that make money with ethnic programming). So that leaves a bunch of little rimshot stations and whatever Starboard hasn't bought for their own radio network. The programming was available, so Newsweb grabbed it. And seeing that WCPT is doing better in the ratings than it really should, perhaps they'll move it to FM (NINE-FM is falling hard). From what I've heard, they're taking a 'wait and see' approach (though, if I were Newsweb, I'd take 92.7 in Arlington Heights and 92.7 down south and simulcast them with WCPT, leaving NINE on 99.9 and 92.5, super-serving the suburbs).

WMCS in Milwaukee turned them down for a lease deal, but they already have a brokerage deal with WAUK for sports programming at night.

Another owner offered to sell to Nova M in Milwaukee. Asking price? Closer to $5M.

Ratings for WXXM in Madison are actually pretty good. 92.1 has been getting better ratings with its current format than it's previous ones. The weak signal hinders them quite a bit. I'm sorry that you consider them a failure because they're not the top station in the market, but I think some so-called 'radio experts' have pretty ridiculous expectations to define success. I thought it was a good move for Clear Channel. And Clear Channel picked them up as a network affiliate, adding Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz, as is the most common approach. Nova M is just trying to buy into a few markets where no owner has budged yet.

Hmm where to start on this one......

Madison IS a liberal Island. There is no surprise there at all. Compare the AAR rating on the rest of the planet to Madison (and perhaps Portland). Nary a whisper. The WXXM signal covers what it needs to cover, so dont give me that crap that all AAR supporters give... the signal is too weak. Nice try. It covers the Peoples Republic of Madison just fine. Do you really think Fred Farmer wants to hear AAR? I dont think so. You still dont get it. It is not that liberal radio could be successful, but AAR is a whiney, one trick pony, boring, POS.

Clear Channel Chicago never considered AAR, contrary to popular wishes. If Clear Channel Chicago wanted AAR they could easily take it.

WMCS... AAR or whoever must not have given them too good of a deal. WAUK only leases out the nightime. What about the prime time? WAUK is not know for being a cash rich station either. AAR must have thrown pennies at WMCS.

OK you say that AM 1600 in NYC is a decent signal. Does that mean we will not hear the CONSTANT whining about how bad the signal was with WLIB????

OK I am ready for your whiney response. Bring it on.
 
Re: Air America

I know the two brokers, who were working on
the Air America deals in Milwaukee.

They had a "lay-down" AM station, dumped on
their lap for $1 Mil, not $5 Mil... and they passed!
It was a simple deal. Give the seller the $1 Mil and you
have a stick able to cover most of Milwaukee. And it's
not a religious outlet, either. The Drobny's are bottom-
fishing for distressed properties, not looking for coverage
for potential advertising revenue.

Maybe another guy came forward with the $5 Mil offer,
but I rather doubt it.

On that Sun Prairie FM, which has a "checkered past",
AA announced they got their programming on it "for free,
because that's just how inciteful Clear Channel is", but
they surrendered almost their entire network inventory
back to Clear Channel, so there's no income derived,
just listenership. You can't claim to be a 100% Air America station if they are stopping for Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller from another syndicator. And you can't support a network operation, by giving away the only commercial inventory you might have and trying to buy stations by selling pixels on the internet!

As to their NYC move, the prior owners of the flagship,
are very interesting business people. Enough said, but
Randy Michaels, the guru who ran Clear Channel Radio
apparently backed away from doing a deal with them.
Mr. Michaels is one of the owners of the Ed Schultz Show
network.

Next, their (AA) Chicago station has no nighttime.

Want me to name the AM's that they could have
LMA'd? 950.... 1590.... 1690???? They are allegedly paying
a million per year for a daytime, northern suburban
signal, because it's where the Drobny's live!
(Highland Park!)

Here's the bottom line. It's not a game, but AA is playing it
like a game. If you say you're buying 100 stations or 50 stations,
then buy them! If not, say you made a mistake and move on.

If this network exists in 6 more months, it will be a miracle.
 
1690 means Berwyn, Illinois. ;D

Money talks alot with corporate radio, and had
they had the money behind them, they could
have LMA'd that station... just outbid the rest.
 
Re: Air America fan in Central Wisconsin

1q2w3e said:
You still dont get it. It is not that liberal radio could be successful, but AAR is a whiney, one trick pony, boring, POS.

That is probably the most important point. If libtalk was entertaining, it would sell and stations would be lining up around the block to carry it. But AAR does nothing but screech "BUSH LIED, BUSH LIED, BUSH LIED...IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEACH!!!"

Whining and complaining does not goot radio make. Save that for the message boards.

;)
 
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