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All My Children to move show/production to west coast

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easttxtv

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/story?id=8247876&page=1
http://daytimeconfidential.com/2009...-my-children-moves-to-la-oltl-gets-amc-studio
http://www.welovesoaps.net/2009/08/abc-news-amcoltl-moving-to-new.html

AMC will move in December and start taping in January, while One Life to Live will take on AMC's vacated NYC studio.

This is the first major soap move west since The Brighter Day switched coasts in 1961.

After Guiding Light suspends production, NYC will only have 2 remaining soaps, As the World Turns and OLTL.
 
Which is a shame for New York actors looking
for work.

Incidentally, GL changed its originating point
twice while it was a radio show. It started in
Chicago (then the soap capital) in 1937, moved
to Los Angeles in 1947 (but Irna Phillips wasn't
happy with the West Coast actors--not realistic
enough, she said), and finally to New York in 1949.
But it's true that in the television era The Brighter Day
was the last soap to move from New York to LA--a
move that helped kill it (along with a move from 4 PM
to 11:30 AM)--the existing characters simply disappeared
and new ones were written in. I hope AMC doesn't make
that mistake.
 
bpatrick said:
Which is a shame for New York actors looking for work.
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Not if they move to Los Angeles or Orange County. IIRC housing is far cheaper there than in NYC. And actors looking for work in LA are in good company. Also IMHO opportunities in community college theatre are far better than in off-Broadway shows (I was an actor at Golden West College in Orange county and know the opps in CCs are endless). This and Los Angeles does have an active Theatre scene.

bpatrick said:
But it's true that in the television era The Brighter Day was the last soap to move from New York to LA--a move that helped kill it (along with a move from 4 PM to 11:30 AM)--the existing characters simply disappeared and new ones were written in. I hope AMC doesn't make that mistake.
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AMC is staying at 1PM/12N Central & Pacific Time and will upgrade to HD on day 1 of taping with the shows hitting the air in February 2010.
 
CBS Entertainment President, Nina Tassler said just the other day that canceling As The World Turns was a real possibility, so One Life To Live could soon be the only Gotham based soap.

What a change from the 1960s when Days of Our Lives and General Hospital were the only two L.A. soaps and the rest were produced in NYC.

I always thought the New York soaps had better acting than the West Coast shows.
 
ajc_trw said:
bpatrick said:
Which is a shame for New York actors looking for work.
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Not if they move to Los Angeles or Orange County. IIRC housing is far cheaper there than in NYC. And actors looking for work in LA are in good company. Also IMHO opportunities in community college theatre are far better than in off-Broadway shows (I was an actor at Golden West College in Orange county and know the opps in CCs are endless). This and Los Angeles does have an active Theatre scene.

bpatrick said:
But it's true that in the television era The Brighter Day was the last soap to move from New York to LA--a move that helped kill it (along with a move from 4 PM to 11:30 AM)--the existing characters simply disappeared and new ones were written in. I hope AMC doesn't make that mistake.
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AMC is staying at 1PM/12N Central & Pacific Time and will upgrade to HD on day 1 of taping with the shows hitting the air in February 2010.
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True, theoretically New York actors could move to Southern California, but not all of them want to. I'll give you an example of a non-actor who passed on greener pastures in New York: CBC's Peter Mansbridge,
anchor of "The National," was approached by CBS several years ago. He told them thanks but no thanks, that he was Toronto to the core, and had no intention of leaving. I'm sure there are New York actors like that.

I also suspect CBS would have moved "Brighter Day" anyway, since "Secret Storm" was being expanded from 15 minutes to 30 at the same time and would occupy the 4-4:30 slot from 1962-68 and then again, briefly, from March 1973 to the end in February 1974. I was merely saying that the time change was one of the factors that killed "Brighter Day"; I didn't mean to imply that ABC will move "All My Children" to a different timeslot (although I wish there was an alternate feed to the Central time zone at 11 AM local time so that Dallas and San Antonio, among others, would be on same-day and not day-behind).

Finally, I have a strong feeling that "As The World Turns" will, a year from now, be in the same boat "Guiding Light" is in right now. The most recent ratings I've seen show "ATWT" with a 1.5 to
"GL"'s 1.4, and I don't think that's going to be good enough to keep "ATWT" on beyond September 17, 2010, the projected date of the last show if that's what comes to pass.
 
Will AMC's new home be The Prospect Studios?

Except for "General Hospital", "Grey's Anatomy", and ABC News' L.A. bureau, there's not much activity on that lot (compared to back in the day) since KABC and later ABC's West Coast headquarters moved out.
 
briancraig said:
CBS Entertainment President, Nina Tassler said just the other day that canceling As The World Turns was a real possibility, so One Life To Live could soon be the only Gotham based soap.

What a change from the 1960s when Days of Our Lives and General Hospital were the only two L.A. soaps and the rest were produced in NYC.

I always thought the New York soaps had better acting than the West Coast shows.
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I wonder if Michael Bloomberg's tax increase had anything to do with this decision. I know Rush Limbaugh announced he was giving up an apartment there due to the high taxes.
 
easttxtv said:
johnnya2k6 said:
Will AMC's new home be The Prospect Studios?
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According to this
http://www.welovesoaps.net/2009/08/latest-in-soap-tweets-amcoltl-reaction.html

it will be in an area called Glassell Park (quote from an LA city councilman and a tweet from one of the AMC actors)
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Glassell Park is a few miles northeast of Downtown, and really not all that far from the Prospect Studios, which in the Los Feliz/Franklin Hills section just east of Hollywood. I'm assuming that they'll film the exterior scenes in Glassell Park, and do the interiors at Prospect.
 
This is bad news for the New York shows that remain.

Based on 30 years of soap opera viewing, I'd say this: Brian Frons at ABC is basically saying he will protect AMC and GH by moving them to high-def studios on a cheaper lot .. leaving OLTL hanging in New York. And, since Procter & Gamble has let GUIDING LIGHT go away, AS THE WORLD TURNS will probably get the same deal a year from now - which means we could be looking, a couple of years down the road, at NO soap operas in New York.

The actors on the New York shows have always been better, but the production values in Los Angeles have just about always had 'em beat.
 
If you're looking at the magazine "ABC Soaps In Depth" for further information (or news) on the move, forget it!

In the August 24, 2009 issue they had a blurb titled "Is Soap Moving West?" where they claim "For now, Erica and Ryan aren't going anywhere." while the short blurb credits a "blogger" for the rumor while "This rumor has been in the zeitgeist for years pooh-poohs an ABC rep."

Nice way to bury your credibility ABC Soaps In Depth. What would one expect from a magazine who's web sites only content is an advertisment to subscribe to the magazine.
 
bpatrick said:
True, theoretically New York actors could move to Southern California, but not all of them want to. I'll give you an example of a non-actor who passed on greener pastures in New York: CBC's Peter Mansbridge,
anchor of "The National," was approached by CBS several years ago. He told them thanks but no thanks, that he was Toronto to the core, and had no intention of leaving. I'm sure there are New York actors like that.
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Mansbridge wasn't the only Canadian TV personaility to say "NO" to the states, another one was the late Percy Saltzman, longtime weatherman for the CBC. Not sure if it was CBS or ABC but one of those two networks were very interested in him to do the weather for their morning programs. Percy said no anyway.

Of course people always can change their mind, such as this man who was at one time a local TV talk show host/anchorman for WTTG in Washington DC. For a time back in the 70s he spoke out on his own show "Panarama" against "trash talk" like Phil Donahue and how he would never be caught dead doing such "garbage" plus this man has said back in those days on more than one occasion that if he would ever go "nationwide" it would be on a classy network like PBS. His Name???

Maury Povich !!!
 
Yeah, well, I don't think Mansbridge will come south,
and frankly, I miss "The National" since Newsworld
International was bought out by Al Gore. While Mansbridge
would be an asset to U.S. television, I think he's doing
just fine where he is, and if he's "Toronto to the core," well,
a lot of people are happy where they are, no matter what
line of work they're in.

Back to topic: why does ABC want to keep OLTL in
New York? I know, somebody's going to say I'm
contradicting myself since elsewhere on this thread
I've lamented the decreasing work opportunities for
New York actors. But with AMC and GH in Los Angeles,
why don't they just go ahead, bow to the inevitable (that
when ATWT goes--as it probably will next year--OLTL will
be the last remaining New York-based soap), and house
it with its sister shows out West?
 
Besides New York City and LA/Hollywood..I wonder if there are other places where a network can move their soaps and still get quaility actors to appear? When the old CBN network back in the 80s was taping their soap "Another Life", I remember the eyebrows CBN had raised when they had decided to tape their shows in Virginia Beach.
And from what I remember CBN didn't have any problem finding actors in that city either to appear on "Another Life" either. Wasn't there a soap some years back that was taped in Boston?

I guess Albuquerque, New Mexico could be used for the taping of a soap since that city is a hot spot for movie productions now but then again, Albuquerque isn't the home of a network, just stations that are affiliates of a network. But I am sure there is a rather large actors pool in that city if somebody had wanted to tape a soap there.
 
mleach said:
Besides New York City and LA/Hollywood..I wonder if there are other places where a network can move their soaps and still get quaility actors to appear?
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With all the TAX incentives in Connecticut I'm not sure why they just didn't move there. They could have even kept the entire cast and crew intact. It's close enough to drive. Maury Povich just moved his show from New York to Stamford. Jerry Springer just moved his show to CT from Chicago. Even the Game show Deal or No Deal just moved to Connecticut from Los Angeles. There are plenty of sound stages in the state. They had plenty to choose from. Oh well.
 
Skynet74 said:
With all the TAX incentives in Connecticut I'm not sure why they just didn't move there. They could have even kept the entire cast and crew intact. It's close enough to drive. Maury Povich just moved his show from New York to Stamford. Jerry Springer just moved his show to CT from Chicago. Even the Game show Deal or No Deal just moved to Connecticut from Los Angeles. There are plenty of sound stages in the state. They had plenty to choose from. Oh well.
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That is surprising that the soap folks hasn't considered Connecticut as you said because of those tax incentives but also being a rather liberal state ( such as New York and California ) one doesn't have to worry about content issues. Yes even if this day and age there are some places where one can't film/tape a project if the state/city doesn't approve of the script. I believe the recent film "Pineapple Express" was supposed to had been filmed in Alabama but because a good chunk of the script had contained a certain word that starts with the letter "F", Alabama pretty much said they could not make the movie there so the film ended up being shot in New Mexico. Also last year there were plans on shooting a horror flick in Virginia based on the infamous "I Spit On Your Grave" but Virginia had a problem with a certain scene ( think John & Lorena Bobbit ) so rather than fight with Virginia over that one scene, the last I heard the movie folks decided to take their business to Fort Collins, Colorado.

As they say..one's loss in another's gain.
 
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