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amp radio to 94.1 philly or the 94.1 in tampa ?

Mike said:
cbs registerd ampradio941.com so it could either be for wysp or WSJT wich is smooth jazz but i doubt its for WYSP
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Two possibilities with the same frequency. Both competing with CC's product (Q in Philly and FLZ in Tampa) WSJT has a 4.1 rating on the winter arbitron while WYSP has a 2.3 rating. By the books, it wouldn't make sense for CBS to flip Tampa's smooth jazz format if they are doing well. In fact, since CBS has five outlets in Tampa, WSJT is CBS's third highest rated station. What may be the possibility of an AMP in Tampa, FLZ is the ONLY CHR in Tampa, leaving Amp to compete with FLZ

As to WYSP, with WRFF at a 4.7 and WMMR at a 4.2, it seems that WYSP is the least listened to rock station by the books, leaving with the possibility of Amp to come to Philly and compete with not only Q102, but Wired and WSTW, thus giving Jersey yet another Top 40 station to tune in to. WPST, not so much since they are more of a Hot AC lean. If Amp does decide to be in Philly, prepare for the "blame bonaduce" posts ;D
 
DREAM ON WYSP IS STAYING THE WAY IT IS IF THEY DO FLIP I PROMISE I WILL NEVER POST HERE AGAIN DEAL?
 
Philly has 2 rhythmic CHRs: Q and Wired
Tampa has a mainstream CHR and a rhythmic CHR: 93.3 FLZ and Wild 98.7, which CBS Radio already owns

So chances are, ampradio941.com is a smokescreen, or it's coming to Philly. CBS would not launch Amp 94.1 in Tampa when they already have Wild 98.7. 94.1 does have a stronger signal inland (it can be heard in Orlando, but most of the extra coverage is the Everglades), but 98.7 covers downtown Tampa and the beaches pretty well. It would be smarter for them to just launch Amp on 98.7 because the target audience is listening to 98.7, not 94.1.

Smooth Jazz is a dying format, and so is modern rock, but I would say Smooth Jazz has a higher chance of flipping formats.

Philly's rhythmic CHR pie would be split 3 ways if Amp 94.1 comes to Philly.

Any other places where CBS owns a 94.1?
 
Nick said:
Philly has 2 rhythmic CHRs: Q and Wired
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Nick, I give you Wired as a Rhythmic/CHR- and a very good one at that, but I don't think I'd classify Q as a rhythmic/CHR. At one point, right after Wired launched, they had a stronger rhythmic lean, but nowadays their product reflects the mainstream charts (e.g., The Fray, All American Rejects, Taylor Swift, Kelly Clarkson).

Having said that, I'm still not convinced the CHR pie could be split any more ways, regardless of whether a new CHR station positioned itself more to target Q or Wired. If they were bent on launching a CHR, I think a mainstream direction (more similar to LA's Mainstream leaning Amp than NY's CBS Rhythmic leaning CHR) would be more smart than a rhythmic approach as it could signal the final nail in Q's coffin. The problems of Q have been described here before. Q has sounded stale for a long time- it doesn't have the energy of Wired, which is probably why it has been losing the CHR war (in terms of ratings). Also, Beasley spends more resources on Wired, evidenced by having far more local jocks/shows than Q. I'm sure there are more profitable directions to go in terms of format choice, but if CBS radio is more concerned about selling their top 40 ad sales as a national unit, then the net benefits to CBS radio as a whole could make sense out of this.
 
I just did a search on NetworkSolutions.com and guess what? "ampradio941.com is available!"

Also, according to Dan Gross in today's Daily News:

94 WYSP's Danny Bonaduce just closed on an Old City condo. We're told the unit is close to 2,400 square feet and sold for $399,000. The apartment is a stone's throw from the station's studio...

I will give you credit though, Mike. At least your effort was not self-aggrandizing and, well, ridiculous like another Mike that frequents this board...
 
I wouldn't be surprised if CBS Radio decided to flip BOTH Philly and Tampa's 94.1s into a simulcast of Amp Radio 94.1.
 
There's no way CBS wades in here with the third CHR. Neither Q102 nor Wired 96.5 are setting the world on fire, because they are competing with each other already. This is not like Z-100 in New York.

A second CHR in Philly makes sense. Not a third one.
 
aindik said:
There's no way CBS wades in here with the third CHR. Neither Q102 nor Wired 96.5 are setting the world on fire, because they are competing with each other already. This is not like Z-100 in New York.

A second CHR in Philly makes sense. Not a third one.
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Either way, someone is gonna get a third CHR if this is true, either Philly or Tampa. And Jersey is gonna recieve another CHR with the other 15 to choose from ;D
 
Q-102's ratings are now back up higher then those of Wired's, and good enough to make the Top 10 stations overall. Cume-wise Q is also ahead of Wired, and is Top 3 overall. Wired 96.5 has been mainstreaming its music a little bit more, and can now be heard playing records by the likes of Taylor Swift. I agree with others who have assessed that Philly couldnt handle a third CHR. Besides, there's a strong chance 94.1 might end up simulcasting one of the AM stations.

I think Tampa is the more likely market for another CHR, along with Detroit. The reason being that Domino, who launched Now 92.3 New York, is very familiar with Tampa Bay, and with FLZ specifically. If that were to happen they will definitely have to tinker with Wild 98.7. Not sure if they'd want to call it Amp Radio though as FLZ used to call its Saturday night broadcast from the clubs as Amp Radio.
 
With 8 Urban format stations in Philly it doesn't seem to matter how many competing stations there are already. YSP has been horrible for years no matter what they did. And CBS tends to make the least sensible choice every single time. Look at the Baltimore/DC markets if you think CBS uses logic in any decision.
 
evolve991 said:
With 8 Urban format stations in Philly it doesn't seem to matter how many competing stations there are already. YSP has been horrible for years no matter what they did. And CBS tends to make the least sensible choice every single time. Look at the Baltimore/DC markets if you think CBS uses logic in any decision.
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There are 5 urbans, not 8, and they aren't all the same, just like the stations programmed for white people aren't all the same.

There are:
2 Urban contemporary (98.9 and 100.3)
2 Urban adult contemporary (105.3 and 107.9)
1 Gospel (103.9)

98.9 and 105.3 have as much in common as Q102 and B101.

You're not counting 96.5, 102.1 or 106.1 as Urban, are you?
 
From what I hear going around today, if and when YSP flips it will be 610 on 94.1, music will no longer be heard on 94.1, now what will be on 610 is another story, 1340 would be nice on 610....
 
WIP isn't exactly setting the world on fire, with a 2.9 12+ and a 448,000 cume. Are they sure moving that to FM is a good idea? How much bigger/younger is the audience going to be than it already is?

And, as noted, what goes on WIP? Is it going to make enough money so that revenue of Sports on FM + Whatever on AM is greater than they're making now with WYSP + WIP?

I do agree, though, that if they move sports to 94.1, they should move the Phillies there, too.

CBS is running two sports stations in Baltimore, one on FM and one on AM. The FM one is local, the AM is ESPN. But we already have a satellite-fed sports station here and it's not working at all.
 
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