Andy Furman to start on 1160 WQRT in February

[medman]

Tried to load this Jetstream streaming player. Couldn't get it to work so I asked our computer guy about it yesterday.
He told me that our company won't allow it because it works like Limewire and uses your computer as a host, and your internet connection as a broadcaster He told me not to use it, there has been some history of virus and such on it, not to mention screwing up your internet speed.

Give us a new stream guys that we can listen to!

 

[Uncas]

Wow, Great assessment, Uncas.
The reason why it dropped out on you at 6:15 PM was due to power change, 6:15 being local sunset.
That changes in a couple of weeks. If you can pick it up at home, until 6:15 PM, the whole program should not be a problem in March.

Thanks for the thoughts and impressions.

Thank you sir. Very kind of you.

I gather you are affiliated with the station in some way?

 

[jry]

Yes, Uncas.

 

[Uncas]

Excellent and good luck to you and the new program.

Getting ready to go out in the garage and play with a new antenna!

 

[jry]

Guys, we posed your streaming question to the folks at JetCast.

Here is their answer:

Thanks for sending me the email threads. First and foremost, the information that you have been told may be true of other streaming companies. Jetcast does not have any issue with virus or broadcast. Further, the stream does not remove any bandwidth from our streaming site other than the one stream that we pull at your encode rate of 32k.

Our technology is both patented and Microsoft certified. There is an initial download. Once that has been completed, a listener can connect to the stream directly. The actual download and acceptance should not take longer than 30 seconds. While the person reporting on this annoyance may have seen this as when he connected to the site, you should know that Jetcast has had over 10 million downloads of the plug-in.

We have an agreement in place with Microsoft to provide High Definition Internet Radio – HDI via the Microsoft website: windowsmedia.com. We are finishing up the portal right now, and again it uses the Jetcast streaming technology and the certified plug-in.

The plug-in also has a security feature that prohibits the theft of the stream content, as well as bandwidth allocation and management. The use of the Jetcast plug-in is what allows us to offer the streaming at no charge to our clients, and further with no limitation to the number of simultaneous listeners that you can have.

Please let me know if you need any additional information or clarification.

My best regards,

Jetcast, Inc.

 

[Uncas]

Will try this at home.

Thank you.

 

[medman]

Sigh! Here is the latest word from our company.

Thanks for the response from Jetcast, I forwarded it to IT. Here is their answer.

Gus,

I read through the note you copied from the people at Jetcast. That was not an answer to our basic problem with this product. Please understand we are not singling you out for trying to listen to your station - ALL applications acting as P2P agents are treated the same. That goes for Limewire, Kazaa, Napster, or any other file sharing software. Just because it's "Microsoft Certified" doesn't make it a good product, or healthy for our network. You use applications at your own risk - especially stuff like this.

Corporate networks are for business use, and while we don't mind a little use for personal needs or communication, these applications require us to expose our network to possible infection from outside. We can't allow that to risk our organization so you can hear a program.

After speaking with you I read through the materials at the Jetstream website. Here's what is says in their FAQ's

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Restrictive Network at work - Jetcast is network friendly. To solve your problem, there are a few solutions. (1) ask you admin to approve the Jetcast.com website if you are being blocked from accessing; (2) ask your admin for the right to install if you are being blocked from installing; or (3) ask your admin to open ports 3900 to 13900 if you are able to install and see buffering 100% and hear nothing or the media control area in the bottom right does not show Connecting, Buffering or Playing in the black area. If you can not get your admin to do these, please e-mail [email protected] and we will get you going.
***

This product is anything but NETWORK FRIENDLY. They want us to "open up ports 3900 to 13900". NO WAY. That's an invitation to disaster for any computer user, particularly windows users. You expose your computer to hacking from all over the internet.

Also, they didn't directly answer the point I told you the first time about using your connection, but they tell the station folks that in the reply.

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The use of the Jetcast plug-in is what allows us to offer the streaming at no charge to our clients, and further with no limitation to the number of simultaneous listeners that you can have.
***

Bottom line, this is a way for the radio station to save money on the internet by using your/(our) connection to rebroadcast out to other computer users. They then rebroadcast out to others and so on. That's why they don't have any limits on their listeners - your doing the work for them!

Last point - you asked about listening while you drive on your phone. Not going to happen with this thing - no mobile provider will allow you to use the connection to upstream to other uses. I contacted Verizon about this, and even if you could get it to work, I've been told it violates our contract agreement, so that's a no go.

As for your home computer, you can do what you want with it. But my advice is to STAY FAR AWAY from this thing and tell them to get Live365, iTunes or Shoutcast. We'll allow any one of those, and there are thousands of legitimate stations providing those - it just costs them some money and tech effort to do it.

After all, you are the customer, why should you/we pay for their commercial enterprise? Just a cheap way out.

I also forwarded this note on to the VP so he's kept in the loop on this type of application use.

Jim

P.S. You still owe me lunch for the Saints spanking the Colts

 

[jry]

Thanks for that.
I am glad i can bounce this stuff off of you guys.

 

[medman]

Anyone from the station - JRY?

I've given up on the idea of adding Jetstream to my computer after it wouldn't connect at home. I emailed the support and after a couple of hours they believe my home router is not set up to work with it.

A friend suggested that I buy an "internet wifi radio" and that might work, even at work.
I've located a few of them, the Grace ITC-IR1000B, Vtech 8191, and the AR IR200.

The Grace got a very good review.

Can you tell which one of these would work with the station?

Thanks!

 

[Uncas]

I could not get it to work. Seems to have downloaded but that was that.

Radio reception has been better of late.

 

[jry]

Anyone from the station - JRY?

I've given up on the idea of adding Jetstream to my computer after it wouldn't connect at home. I emailed the support and after a couple of hours they believe my home router is not set up to work with it.

A friend suggested that I buy an "internet wifi radio" and that might work, even at work.
I've located a few of them, the Grace ITC-IR1000B, Vtech 8191, and the AR IR200.

The Grace got a very good review.

Can you tell which one of these would work with the station?

Thanks!

I've been sending these comments to the IT guys. One thing that makes this service unique is their proprietary system will allow
HD quality audio on what is a relatively low bit rate. I am wondering why this same codec cannot be used for over the air HD radio but that is another subject. I'll keep prodding around on this.
Thanks for your patience.