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Another Instance Of A Professional Athlete Uttering An Obscenity On Live TV

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Add hockey players to the list of professional athletes who have uttered obscenities in live TV interviews during coverage of their sport.

Today (April 8th), in a postgame interview with rinkside reporter Pierre McGuire during NBC's coverage of an NHL game between the New York Rangers and the Boston Bruins, Rangers' forward Michael Nylander (who scored the game-winning goal) uttered the "S"-word. The "S"-word came during a humorous remark that broke up McGuire as well as play-by-play man Mike Emrick and analyst John Davidson.

A few moments later, realizing what had been said (or perhaps someone in the truck alerted him through his IFB's of what was said), Emrick apologized for Nylander's language.

During the wrap-up, originating from the skating rink outside NBC's Rockefeller Center studios in New York, telecast host Bill Clement also apologized for Nylander's language.

Two things appear to be ceryain: (1) The NHL will fine Nylander, and, (2) The "Decency Police" will demand that the FCC fine NBC and it's affiliates for Nylander's comments.
 
Aww you beat me to it. I think NBC should have not even mentioned it. I mean I wasn't sure that I heard what I thought I did...until they reminded me three times that he did say it.
 
> Aww you beat me to it. I think NBC should have not even
> mentioned it. I mean I wasn't sure that I heard what I
> thought I did...until they reminded me three times that he
> did say it.
>
I doubt this`ll get much attention, if any since, well, no one watches the NHL really!
 
> > Aww you beat me to it. I think NBC should have not even
> > mentioned it. I mean I wasn't sure that I heard what I
> > thought I did...until they reminded me three times that he
>
> > did say it.
> >
> I doubt this`ll get much attention, if any since, well, no
> one watches the NHL really!
>

True, it's really hard to watch the NHL these days...

But really, I can't believe people freak out when they hear a bad word even today. If you have kids and don't want them to use bad language, that's fine, but athletes swear a whole lot, and in general people in public do too these days, you can't teach them not to do it unless they know what it is they shouldn't do!
 
Kudos...Athletes swearing on television is a facet of America. Get over it, if the FCC doesn't see it, it's a non-issue. No kid ever turned from Pre-Med to a life of crime because of cursing.
 
We need to get over this business of treating certain words as the equivalent of explosives. I assume the NHL broadcast was live. Once you say something on live TV or radio, it's out there and no amount of wishful thinking or FCC fines or public indignation will undo it.

I was board-opping a NASCAR race on the local sports station a couple of years ago. They interviewed a driver who'd been in a scrape with another driver on the track. Obviously he didn't think much of it because he let loose with a whole string of obscenities. To their credit they cut away from it quickly, but not before an "F-bomb" or two got out. I don't recall reading of any huge scandal or threats of fines the next day.

It happens. Get over it.

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> We need to get over this business of treating certain words
> as the equivalent of explosives. I assume the NHL broadcast
> was live. Once you say something on live TV or radio, it's
> out there and no amount of wishful thinking or FCC fines or
> public indignation will undo it.
>
> I was board-opping a NASCAR race on the local sports station
> a couple of years ago. They interviewed a driver who'd been
> in a scrape with another driver on the track. Obviously he
> didn't think much of it because he let loose with a whole
> string of obscenities. To their credit they cut away from
> it quickly, but not before an "F-bomb" or two got out. I
> don't recall reading of any huge scandal or threats of fines
> the next day.
>
> It happens. Get over it.
>
> KL

No, no, and no. When you open your mouth to an audience of millions,
you are, and should be held, responsible for what you say. I wouldn't
want my kids to hear it, it's wrong, and if you allow this, then what...
it's OK to do it on taped shows? Where do you draw the line? If you allow
it for one, you must allow it for all for consistency.

Funny, this sort of thing never used to happen 10-20 years ago like it did now,
and back then, it was a really bad thing(tm) that could cost you your career.
If you want foul language, pay for cable and watch HBO. I know in private they
swear all they want, but that is their business. In public, they have an obligation that every ord out of their mouth is responsible. They can be mad,
furious, happy, whatever. Just don't communicate it with "4 letter words".
Really, how hard is that?

And I really hope NBC isn't held responsible for this. It is not their fault,
obviously.
 
>
> No, no, and no. When you open your mouth to an audience of
> millions, you are, and should be held, responsible for what you say.

That would be very true for the professional broadcasters. But regular folks are very free with the off-color remarks these days. It's inevitable that one will slip by every now and then, especially on a live broadcast. We just have to get over this thing of going ballistic and alerting the media every time it happens. 99% of the "obscenity complaints" come from ONE religious media watchdog group which has a squad of people monitoring the networks 24/7. Their name escapes me at the moment, but they don't realize they're only making the problem worse by raising a huge stink about every such incident.

> I wouldn't want my kids to hear it, it's wrong, and if you allow this,
> then what... it's OK to do it on taped shows? Where do you draw the line? If > you allow it for one, you must allow it for all for consistency.

Come on now. If the show is taped in advance, they have plenty of time to edit any potentially offensive remarks. You don't have that luxury with a live show.
You say it, and it's out there at the speed of light. And now that sex is off-limits on broadcast TV, closeups of blood and guts and violence (mostly inflicted upon women) are how you "push the envelope" these days. That's the kind of stuff I'd prefer my kids didn't watch. Sex or violence? I don't know which is worse, to be perfectly honest.
>
> Funny, this sort of thing never used to happen 10-20 years
> ago like it did now, and back then, it was a really bad thing that could
> cost you your career.

It goes back further than that. It's not a recent thing. I have some bloopers from NBC and CBS from the 40's and 50's where the air talent didn't know the mike was live. I know, that should be elementary for any professional, but I can send the audio files to you if you like. It happens even to the best of them.

> If you want foul language, pay for cable and watch HBO. I
> know in private they swear all they want, but that is their business. In > public, they have an obligation that every word out of their mouth is
> responsible. They can be mad, furious, happy, whatever. Just don't communicate > it with "4 letter words". Really, how hard is that?

For people who grew up with a different set of values than your own, it can be harder than you realize. I'm not saying that your values are wrong or that profanity a good thing, but for persons with limited vocabularies, profanities fill in the gaps. My father could go to church and be nice around the folks in the congregation, but when he hung out with his workplace pals, the expletives and dirty jokes would fly fast and furious. That's just the way some people are. Every now and then someone will let one slip in front of a live mike. I'm not defending it, but on the other hand it's inevitable.
>
> And I really hope NBC isn't held responsible for this. It is not their fault,
> obviously.

Obviously. On that point we agree. Until recently, the FCC stand on such issues was along the lines of "we understand it was live, just try being more careful next time". Then the Janet Jackson thing happened, and suddenly everybody's having kittens over it. If an obscenity is hollered by someone in the stands at a football game who doesn't realize there's a live mike a few feet away, for example, what are you gonna do? But if someone goes on a live broadcast INTENDING to say bad words, that's a different issue. It's not the end of the world, and loudly calling attention to it after the fact only fuels the fires of scandal. And we all know how the news folks love a big juicy scandal, which seems to have replaced honest real-world journalism. I don't see any improvement happening any time soon.


KL<P ID="signature">______________
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> 99% of the "obscenity
> complaints" come from ONE religious media watchdog group
> which has a squad of people monitoring the networks 24/7.
> Their name escapes me at the moment, but they don't realize
> they're only making the problem worse by raising a huge
> stink about every such incident.

The "American Family Association", who's mission is to make all media Triple-G rated.
 
I indeed agree that NBC shouldn't be held accountable, but the NHL should fine Michael Nylander for uttering the "S"-word on live TV. If the league doesn't impose a fine on Nylander, they will have made a huge mistake.

Besides, NASCAR has started to fine drivers who use obscene language in live TV interviews.
 
> Add hockey players to the list of professional athletes who
> have uttered obscenities in live TV interviews during
> coverage of their sport.
>
> Today (April 8th), in a postgame interview with rinkside
> reporter Pierre McGuire during NBC's coverage of an NHL game
> between the New York Rangers and the Boston Bruins, Rangers'
> forward Michael Nylander (who scored the game-winning goal)
> uttered the "S"-word. The "S"-word came during a humorous
> remark that broke up McGuire as well as play-by-play man
> Mike Emrick and analyst John Davidson.
>
> A few moments later, realizing what had been said (or
> perhaps someone in the truck alerted him through his IFB's
> of what was said), Emrick apologized for Nylander's
> language.
>
> During the wrap-up, originating from the skating rink
> outside NBC's Rockefeller Center studios in New York,
> telecast host Bill Clement also apologized for Nylander's
> language.
>
> Two things appear to be ceryain: (1) The NHL will fine
> Nylander, and, (2) The "Decency Police" will demand that the
> FCC fine NBC and it's affiliates for Nylander's comments.
>

I still think its funny how people get so upset at hearing such words on TV yet..

Go to any retail store, or even the bank and one can still hear those words. Just yesterday at Target, the middle-aged woman in front of my cousin was screaming about the store not refunding her money. "..this place f*cking SUCKS..kiss my ass" !! Target didnt even ask the woman to leave ( are they that desperate for her business? ) and yes they were many of familes around and according to my cousin..no one said a word !! If someone was that offended, why didn't someone say something?

The radio station I work for had a bomb threat last month. The police came and after they searched the place, the cop told me "..who would want to bomb this f*cking place". I told the cop that he didn't have to say that, but he told me "so what". I called up his supervisor and pretty much they told me to "get over it".

My neighbors were telling me that their son's high school teacher quite often says the "s" word plus "god-damn" right in class !! Even though they complained to the county school system about it (BTW according to the school system, they are the only ones who complained about it ), the teacher is still well teaching and still uses those words.

If Target allowes customers to cuss in public, and the police and high school teachers can do it, I guess most people don't care. But do it on TV..OMG !!
 
Somehow, I'm a bit more concerned with the obscenities of violence poverty, racism, war and hunger than whether some overpaid jock says s--t on the air. But maybe I'm wrong and there are murders committed, women raped, wars started and children starving because some hockey player has a potty mouth.
 
> Somehow, I'm a bit more concerned with the obscenities of
> violence poverty, racism, war and hunger than whether some
> overpaid jock says s--t on the air. But maybe I'm wrong and
> there are murders committed, women raped, wars started and
> children starving because some hockey player has a potty
> mouth.
>
Same reaction I had to the Janet Jackson "situation." An out-of-control federal deficit, war & terrorism, Americans choosing between food and medicine, kids without adequate school supplies....yet what do people get up in arms about? A fleeting glimpse of a nipple.

Much like too many other government bodies, the FCC is a self-perpetuating waste of taxpayer money, sticking its nose where it doesn't belong just to justify its outlandish budget. What we need the FCC for could be accomplished with a heck of a lot less $$$ and staff.
 
Hi everyone:

> > > Aww you beat me to it. I think NBC should have not even
> > > mentioned it. I mean I wasn't sure that I heard what I
> > > thought I did...until they reminded me three times that
> he
> >
> > > did say it.
> > >
> > I doubt this`ll get much attention, if any since, well, no
>
> > one watches the NHL really!
> >
>
> True, it's really hard to watch the NHL these days...
>
> But really, I can't believe people freak out when they hear
> a bad word even today. If you have kids and don't want
> them to use bad language, that's fine, but athletes swear a
> whole lot, and in general people in public do too these
> days, you can't teach them not to do it unless they know
> what it is they shouldn't do!

You can't teach kids NOT to use language which YOU use YOURSELF in everyday life.

As they say....HEAR No Evil....See No Evil 'cause it's a Monkey SEE...Monkey DO world we live in.

Just my opinion.... :/

Cheers :)

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I agree with most everybody on this topic, it is getting ridiculous that just because somebody said a four letter word on tv the whole world goes nuts. If everybody keeps freaking out just because of a swear word on the tube every now and then, pretty soon, the only thing you'll have on tv is sign language interpreters with no audio at all :D
 
donnyg said:
If everybody keeps freaking out just because of a swear word on the tube every now and then, pretty soon, the only thing you'll have on tv is sign language interpreters with no audio at all :D
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And even then, they'll be scrutinising that, to make sure they don't sign offensive words.
 
Hi everyone:
donnyg said:
I agree with most everybody on this topic, it is getting ridiculous that just because somebody said a four letter word on tv the whole world goes nuts. If everybody keeps freaking out just because of a swear word on the tube every now and then, pretty soon, the only thing you'll have on tv is sign language interpreters with no audio at all :D
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Either that or color bars with nothing except the station's legal ID & COL embedded in the middle. Imagine the potential entertainment value in that...The possibilities must be endless.....NOT!JMHOCheers :)
 
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